Questions about sponsoring for I-134 and I-864

[AMHISHABIBATI 0]

Hi all!! I had a question about the sponsor requirements for both I-134 and I-864..

I was going to file for fiance visa, and i was looking over the I-134 form, i noticed that there was no line, for cosponsor, it only ask for the name of the sponsor.

I do not meet income requirements for either fiance, or the 125% for adjustment of status.. so i was going to get my mom to cosponsor with me.

My mom makes well over the amount for 100% for the I-134 but she does not make enough for the adjustment of status, but is just a little bit below it.

I am unsure how to fill out the form, should i put my mom as the sponsor on the I-134 since she meets all the requirements and then add me on later for the adjustment of status?

Or should i fill out 2 I-134's for both me and her? I had heard that some have different experiences with different consular offices and wanted to avoid any delays, i did not know what to do when i saw that the form for fiance did not give you the option of listing cosponsor.

Also, and this is a very important question, do i have to add my mom to "the household size" if she cosponsors with me? because if that is the case, size of family increases and so does the amount necessary to prove.

Anyone know or experienced this..Please respond,

thanks very much

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Hi all!! I had a question about the sponsor requirements for both I-134 and I-864..

I was going to file for fiance visa, and i was looking over the I-134 form, i noticed that there was no line, for cosponsor, it only ask for the name of the sponsor.

I do not meet income requirements for either fiance, or the 125% for adjustment of status.. so i was going to get my mom to cosponsor with me.

My mom makes well over the amount for 100% for the I-134 but she does not make enough for the adjustment of status, but is just a little bit below it.

I am unsure how to fill out the form, should i put my mom as the sponsor on the I-134 since she meets all the requirements and then add me on later for the adjustment of status?

Or should i fill out 2 I-134's for both me and her? I had heard that some have different experiences with different consular offices and wanted to avoid any delays, i did not know what to do when i saw that the form for fiance did not give you the option of listing cosponsor.

Also, and this is a very important question, do i have to add my mom to "the household size" if she cosponsors with me? because if that is the case, size of family increases and so does the amount necessary to prove.

Anyone know or experienced this..Please respond,

thanks very much

She fills out a separate I-134 complete with everything you provide, tax returns, proof of income, all.

You need 125% for BOTH the I-134 and I-864. The qualifications are exactly the same.

YOU will claim a household size of 2. You and your fiancee. Your Mom will claim a household size of 2. Her and the fiancee. (this assumes there are no other children dependent on you or your mom) All dependent children must be counted. If your mom has two other children living at home then her family size is 4.

[rebeccajo 14]

Hi all!! I had a question about the sponsor requirements for both I-134 and I-864..

I was going to file for fiance visa, and i was looking over the I-134 form, i noticed that there was no line, for cosponsor, it only ask for the name of the sponsor.

I do not meet income requirements for either fiance, or the 125% for adjustment of status.. so i was going to get my mom to cosponsor with me.

My mom makes well over the amount for 100% for the I-134 but she does not make enough for the adjustment of status, but is just a little bit below it.

I am unsure how to fill out the form, should i put my mom as the sponsor on the I-134 since she meets all the requirements and then add me on later for the adjustment of status?

Or should i fill out 2 I-134's for both me and her? I had heard that some have different experiences with different consular offices and wanted to avoid any delays, i did not know what to do when i saw that the form for fiance did not give you the option of listing cosponsor.

Also, and this is a very important question, do i have to add my mom to "the household size" if she cosponsors with me? because if that is the case, size of family increases and so does the amount necessary to prove.

Anyone know or experienced this..Please respond,

thanks very much

She fills out a separate I-134 complete with everything you provide, tax returns, proof of income, all.

You need 125% for BOTH the I-134 and I-864. The qualifications are exactly the same.

YOU will claim a household size of 2. You and your fiancee. Your Mom will claim a household size of 2. Her and the fiancee. (this assumes there are no other children dependent on you or your mom) All dependent children must be counted. If your mom has two other children living at home then her family size is 4.

Really?

Show me that in writing, Gary.

[Bobby+Umit 161]

Hi all!! I had a question about the sponsor requirements for both I-134 and I-864..

I was going to file for fiance visa, and i was looking over the I-134 form, i noticed that there was no line, for cosponsor, it only ask for the name of the sponsor.

I do not meet income requirements for either fiance, or the 125% for adjustment of status.. so i was going to get my mom to cosponsor with me.

My mom makes well over the amount for 100% for the I-134 but she does not make enough for the adjustment of status, but is just a little bit below it.

I am unsure how to fill out the form, should i put my mom as the sponsor on the I-134 since she meets all the requirements and then add me on later for the adjustment of status?

Or should i fill out 2 I-134's for both me and her? I had heard that some have different experiences with different consular offices and wanted to avoid any delays, i did not know what to do when i saw that the form for fiance did not give you the option of listing cosponsor.

Also, and this is a very important question, do i have to add my mom to "the household size" if she cosponsors with me? because if that is the case, size of family increases and so does the amount necessary to prove.

Anyone know or experienced this..Please respond,

thanks very much

She fills out a separate I-134 complete with everything you provide, tax returns, proof of income, all.

You need 125% for BOTH the I-134 and I-864. The qualifications are exactly the same.

YOU will claim a household size of 2. You and your fiancee. Your Mom will claim a household size of 2. Her and the fiancee. (this assumes there are no other children dependent on you or your mom) All dependent children must be counted. If your mom has two other children living at home then her family size is 4.

Really?

Show me that in writing, Gary.

Here you go.

USCIS Affidavit of support

This page infers that both the I-864 and the I-134 use the same income level of the I-864P. Most of the posts from consulates/embassy seem to indicate they use this same document for level of income.

[Anh map 2,098]

Like Gary I've heard that some embassies/consulates require 125% for the I-134.

The Dept. of State website states 100% for the I-134. See this link: http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/ty...types_2994.html

I don't think the I-134 allows for a co-sponsor. The I-864 does allow for co-sponsor.

With the short time period between required marriage and AOS with the K1 if the petitioner doesn't meet the 100% might as well have the same sponsor for both as the 134 "obligation" stops with the AOS (which does require the I-864 with income requirement of 125%).

[pushbrk 13,167]

Hi all!! I had a question about the sponsor requirements for both I-134 and I-864..

I was going to file for fiance visa, and i was looking over the I-134 form, i noticed that there was no line, for cosponsor, it only ask for the name of the sponsor.

I do not meet income requirements for either fiance, or the 125% for adjustment of status.. so i was going to get my mom to cosponsor with me.

My mom makes well over the amount for 100% for the I-134 but she does not make enough for the adjustment of status, but is just a little bit below it.

I am unsure how to fill out the form, should i put my mom as the sponsor on the I-134 since she meets all the requirements and then add me on later for the adjustment of status?

Or should i fill out 2 I-134's for both me and her? I had heard that some have different experiences with different consular offices and wanted to avoid any delays, i did not know what to do when i saw that the form for fiance did not give you the option of listing cosponsor.

Also, and this is a very important question, do i have to add my mom to "the household size" if she cosponsors with me? because if that is the case, size of family increases and so does the amount necessary to prove.

Anyone know or experienced this..Please respond,

thanks very much

She fills out a separate I-134 complete with everything you provide, tax returns, proof of income, all.

You need 125% for BOTH the I-134 and I-864. The qualifications are exactly the same.

YOU will claim a household size of 2. You and your fiancee. Your Mom will claim a household size of 2. Her and the fiancee. (this assumes there are no other children dependent on you or your mom) All dependent children must be counted. If your mom has two other children living at home then her family size is 4.

Really?

Show me that in writing, Gary.

Here you go.

USCIS Affidavit of support

This page infers that both the I-864 and the I-134 use the same income level of the I-864P. Most of the posts from consulates/embassy seem to indicate they use this same document for level of income.

I think what she's alluding to without bothering to add anything to the thread by a jab, is to call attention to the fact that although USCIS requires 125% for their purposes, individual Consulates or even individual officers may apply their own standards when it comes to the visa itself. Each visa applicant will eventually need a sponsor qualifying at 125% in order to become a Legal Permanent Resident of the USA unless they are the spouse of someone in the Military, where the standard is 100%. Without knowing the OP's Consulate, it is premature to assert they'll need 125% to obtain the visa.

It's a good rule of thumb but not an absolute requirement.

[rebeccajo 14]

Here you go.

USCIS Affidavit of support

This page infers that both the I-864 and the I-134 use the same income level of the I-864P. Most of the posts from consulates/embassy seem to indicate they use this same document for level of income.

Bobby -

I don't see any inference of the sort.

I think what she's alluding to without bothering to add anything to the thread by a jab, is to call attention to the fact that although USCIS requires 125% for their purposes, individual Consulates or even individual officers may apply their own standards when it comes to the visa itself. Each visa applicant will eventually need a sponsor qualifying at 125% in order to become a Legal Permanent Resident of the USA unless they are the spouse of someone in the Military, where the standard is 100%. Without knowing the OP's Consulate, it is premature to assert they'll need 125% to obtain the visa.

It's a good rule of thumb but not an absolute requirement.

And it's a good rule of thumb to not try to interpret what I meant with your jabs.

[rebeccajo 14]

Like Gary I've heard that some embassies/consulates require 125% for the I-134.

The Dept. of State website states 100% for the I-134. See this link: http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/ty...types_2994.html

I don't think the I-134 allows for a co-sponsor. The I-864 does allow for co-sponsor.

With the short time period between required marriage and AOS with the K1 if the petitioner doesn't meet the 100% might as well have the same sponsor for both as the 134 "obligation" stops with the AOS (which does require the I-864 with income requirement of 125%).

EXACTLY!

And since it's the Department of State that uses the form, that's why their guidance is the guidance that matters.

*USCIS and DOS are NOT one and the same*

Brownie points for understanding that there is no such thing as a co-sponsor with the I134.

[frangipani 0]

I don't think the I-134 allows for a co-sponsor. The I-864 does allow for co-sponsor.

What about if the K-1 petitioner is unemployed (but still has W2 and 1040 from previous job) and co-sponsor isn't allowed, will they be denied a visa?

[rebeccajo 14]

I don't think the I-134 allows for a co-sponsor. The I-864 does allow for co-sponsor.

What about if the K-1 petitioner is unemployed (but still has W2 and 1040 from previous job) and co-sponsor isn't allowed, will they be denied a visa?

It's a technical point.

For a non-immigrant visa, only one 'sponsor' is necessary. The I-134 affidavit itself contains no language that the sponsor must be the petitioner of the visa applicant.

[pushbrk 13,167]

I don't think the I-134 allows for a co-sponsor. The I-864 does allow for co-sponsor.

What about if the K-1 petitioner is unemployed (but still has W2 and 1040 from previous job) and co-sponsor isn't allowed, will they be denied a visa?

It's a technical point.

For a non-immigrant visa, only one 'sponsor' is necessary. The I-134 affidavit itself contains no language that the sponsor must be the petitioner of the visa applicant.

The affidavit itself contains no language to indicate any specific income or other financial requirement either but just as any sponsor will need some sort of "sufficient" financial resources, any petitioner who doesn't provide an affidavit of support for their loved one's K visa interview would be supremely foolish indeed.

[paintbrush 0]

hello everybody!1

Thanks for everybodys help this site has help us so much...We did this on our own with out

a agency just reading all papers carefully and getting so many good tips from this site..

the 134 support i have gross income of $66,000 with first job and another 5 to 10 second job

so i think i meet req...for her and her daughter and my daughter...the question I have is that i married a

singaporean 11 years ago and iam now divorced from her and i did write down that i filled a 134 for her

when we first married and the dates and the date of divorced ,,,and that she signed off any support and now lives out side of the u.s. Should i have left that part out??? i wanted to be as honest as i could i figure

they have my file and probably already see my marriage to that girl in 1997..Even if they use that amount

family of 4 still puts me way over ,,,,

any thoughts??? should i send fiancee copy of divorce agian to take to interview

show them i not supporting this girl any more have been divorced from her 3 years now

thanks for any help we waiting for interview date ...been one year since filed first step

have and great day chris

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Like Gary I've heard that some embassies/consulates require 125% for the I-134.

The Dept. of State website states 100% for the I-134. See this link: http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/ty...types_2994.html

I don't think the I-134 allows for a co-sponsor. The I-864 does allow for co-sponsor.

With the short time period between required marriage and AOS with the K1 if the petitioner doesn't meet the 100% might as well have the same sponsor for both as the 134 "obligation" stops with the AOS (which does require the I-864 with income requirement of 125%).

EXACTLY!

And since it's the Department of State that uses the form, that's why their guidance is the guidance that matters.

*USCIS and DOS are NOT one and the same*

Brownie points for understanding that there is no such thing as a co-sponsor with the I134.

Oh, wonderful. Brownie points from the teacher.

I never said anything about a "co-sponsor for the I-134" whatever that means. I, in fact, said the co-sponosr also has to fill out the I-134 and I still hate lawyers.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I don't think the I-134 allows for a co-sponsor. The I-864 does allow for co-sponsor.

What about if the K-1 petitioner is unemployed (but still has W2 and 1040 from previous job) and co-sponsor isn't allowed, will they be denied a visa?

It's a technical point.

For a non-immigrant visa, only one 'sponsor' is necessary. The I-134 affidavit itself contains no language that the sponsor must be the petitioner of the visa applicant.

See with good advice like this, our members don't need attorneys. Thanks Rebeccajo. Together we will rid the world of hyenas!

[rebeccajo 14]

I never said anything about a "co-sponsor for the I-134" whatever that means. I, in fact, said the co-sponosr also has to fill out the I-134 and I still hate lawyers.

Good grief.

What in the world is the matter with you? What is up with this crusade? And why would you rather keep going and going and going with it in various threads? Did you not like the discussion we were having in the other thread - the one wherein you asked a question and I responded?

And - there is no such thing as a co-sponsor for the I134.