The Vent - Part 2

[JillA 2]

My vent is that DPX is confusing me by switching screen names!!!

and pictures.... when people change their avatar I get confused

[The_Dude 1,142]

LoL, every time I find a proper sized avatar that I actually like, It turns out to be oversized

[DeadPoolX 9]

My vent is that DPX is confusing me by switching screen names!!!

The trap has been sprung! Release the hounds!

SO.. in the continuing Sega of my Japanese friend, she now has a mid-wife and is having a home birth because she doesn't have medical insurance. HOLY

Isn't she in Canada? I thought all provinces had basic health insurance. Maybe birth isn't covered since it's technically a voluntary situation?

She's not legally entitled to any benefits in canada.. she's out of status. She gets nothing until her PR status is in place (+ 3 months for being in ONT). She's outta luck.

Common error though.. Canada just doesn't give out free health care.. you have to be contributing to the system. She's not entitled to work, so she's not paying in. Have to give something to get something.. nothing is free in this world.

I didn't know about the out-of-status issue, but I definitely agree with the other comment. I've always said there's no such thing as "free health care." It's paid for by taxes, which in effect, does not make it "free."

[trailmix 77]

SO.. in the continuing Sega of my Japanese friend, she now has a mid-wife and is having a home birth because she doesn't have medical insurance. HOLY

Isn't she in Canada? I thought all provinces had basic health insurance. Maybe birth isn't covered since it's technically a voluntary situation?

She's not legally entitled to any benefits in canada.. she's out of status. She gets nothing until her PR status is in place (+ 3 months for being in ONT). She's outta luck.

Common error though.. Canada just doesn't give out free health care.. you have to be contributing to the system. She's not entitled to work, so she's not paying in. Have to give something to get something.. nothing is free in this world.

Oh that's unfortunate for her.

While it's certainly not free, you don't actually have to be contributing - just eligible to contribute I suppose.

Edited April 20, 2009 by trailmix

[Emancipation 2]

SO.. in the continuing Sega of my Japanese friend, she now has a mid-wife and is having a home birth because she doesn't have medical insurance. HOLY

Isn't she in Canada? I thought all provinces had basic health insurance. Maybe birth isn't covered since it's technically a voluntary situation?

She's not legally entitled to any benefits in canada.. she's out of status. She gets nothing until her PR status is in place (+ 3 months for being in ONT). She's outta luck.

Common error though.. Canada just doesn't give out free health care.. you have to be contributing to the system. She's not entitled to work, so she's not paying in. Have to give something to get something.. nothing is free in this world.

Oh that's unfortunate for her.

While it's certainly not free, you don't actually have to be contributing - just eligible to contribute I suppose.

right.. that's a good point Trailmixy.. have to have the ability to contribute.. thanks for the correction.. And everyone does pay in when they buy stuff..

[TheATeam 0]

I thought that having a midwife was much more expensive than a doctor. Although, now that I think about it, it's probably not more expensive than going to the hospital. Hopefully all goes well and she won't have to make an emergency trip to the hospital!

[Emancipation 2]

I thought that having a midwife was much more expensive than a doctor. Although, now that I think about it, it's probably not more expensive than going to the hospital. Hopefully all goes well and she won't have to make an emergency trip to the hospital!

It's about 3-9 thousand for the birth in the hospital and about 500$ for the midwife, so quite a bargain. I think midwifery in ONT is quite accepted, as in you don't have to have the baby in hospital, they do home births all the time.

[DeadPoolX 9]

I thought that having a midwife was much more expensive than a doctor. Although, now that I think about it, it's probably not more expensive than going to the hospital. Hopefully all goes well and she won't have to make an emergency trip to the hospital!

It's about 3-9 thousand for the birth in the hospital and about 500$ for the midwife, so quite a bargain. I think midwifery in ONT is quite accepted, as in you don't have to have the baby in hospital, they do home births all the time.

Two reasons I prefer doctors to midwives:

1. If complications occur, the doctor (and staff) are better prepared to handle it.

2. Whatever bodily excretions that are produced before, during and after birth remain at the hospital, instead of your home.

[Krikit 1,164]

Does she have parents, Emancipation? Her family must think she has lost her marbles..... cause I certainly think that and I don't even know her!

I should mention that my previous statement has nothing whatsoever to do with her hiring a midwife..... it's in relation to everything she's done since she left home.

[Flames9_RN 358]

Not to many midwifes in VA due to insurance reasons. Well there may be Midwifes, but many hospitals dont allow them. My sister back in Calgary (she is a RN) used a Doula! Not sure why, as she seems to act as a "coach" lol I didnt see why her husband could not do it,lol

[Udella&Wiz 325]

Not to many midwifes in VA due to insurance reasons. Well there may be Midwifes, but many hospitals dont allow them. My sister back in Calgary (she is a RN) used a Doula! Not sure why, as she seems to act as a "coach" lol I didnt see why her husband could not do it,lol

Did you really say that? LOL ...sorry Husbands are not in a relaxed straight forward state of mind at this time...and they ARE the one who got you into this mess in the first place

in hind sight, I wish I had gone with a midwife/ doula type of deal. I kept reading about all these'relaxed, wonderful' births...but no one was offering up info around where I lived...of course I was kind fo a young mum so they probably were just being knobs, I didn't insist on much.

[Flames9_RN 358]

Guess Im the exception!! Thanks to my OB rotation I have held a few legs,lol and counted and gave support. I seriously don't see why a father can't be more involved, i know i would be!

[Udella&Wiz 325]

Guess Im the exception!! Thanks to my OB rotation I have held a few legs,lol and counted and gave support. I seriously don't see why a father can't be more involved, i know i would be!

Oh - they should be involved, unfortunately i think there are some reasons why they're not

- tradition

- squeamish

- their wives/SO's aren't supportive in making them feel welcome at that moment - there isn't a lot physically they can do.

I know at 22 I was really squeamish about having my dauighter's dad there (thank gawd he wasn't...he was a knob anyway) he acted like it would be unpleasant to be there....and yet I was the one in pain

Now (if I were to have another baby...which I will not) I know that Don would be more then happy to be at the finish line -cripes he'd be coaching, making cocktails, massaging, walking, snapping pictures and getting the pompoms out!!!!!!!

[Flames9_RN 358]

I had to learn on the spot to count to 10 in Spanish,lol Poor gal had no one around!! felt bad for her

[Krikit 1,164]

Oh - they should be involved, unfortunately i think there are some reasons why they're not

- tradition

- squeamish

- their wives/SO's aren't supportive in making them feel welcome at that moment - there isn't a lot physically they can do.

- they're useless

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