YOU SHOULD BE WORRIED !

[Taye500 0]

Especially a felony against a woman. You can thank IMBRA for that and support it 100%. This is why we have IMBRA to protect women fro those killers,pimps,pediphile, molesters drug addicts e.t.c. This IMBRA does not bother me 'cause i have no criminal past to worry about. And frankly i think most interviewers are gonna frown at any criminal records. Especially a violent one. which is good. No need putting an innocent woman at risk because she wants to live in America !!!

[seldi 1]

What are the odds of that happening? Most of us DON'T have criminal records and I feel like this law is making us feel as though we're all criminals, unless we prove otherwise.

And since when does the goverment give a ####### about immigrants?

Edited June 19, 2006 by grismar

[nane1104 146]

Hm.

I agree...if you don't have any felonies in your background, you don't have to worry about IMBRA.

And I guess at the end it really won't affect a lot of people here.

BUT...what about those where you have 15+ years from the conviction to now and who says, the fiancees of those men want to get married just to get to the States?

I think the idea of IMBRA, protecting the woman, is good, but the way they started this (right forms unavailable, just "freeze" cases, not letting people know what's going on, basically being totally un-organized) was ridiculous and caused so much unneccesary headache, heartache and trouble...and THAT'S what I didn't like about IMBRA.

And I am not even effected by it, but just to read about all these stories here, is frusterating, I can't imagine how it must feel to be stuck in the middle of it.

Edited June 19, 2006 by nane1104

[simple_male 1]

Hm.

I agree...if you don't have any felonies in your background, you don't have to worry about IMBRA.

And I guess at the end it really won't affect a lot of people here.

BUT...what about those where you have 15+ years from the conviction to now and who says, the fiancees of those men want to get married just to get to the States?

I think the idea of IMBRA, protecting the woman, is good, but the way they started this (right forms unavailable, just "freeze" cases, not letting people know what's going on, basically being totally un-organized) was ridiculous and caused so much unneccesary headache, heartache and trouble...and THAT'S what I didn't like about IMBRA.

And I am not even effected by it, but just to read about all these stories here, is frusterating, I can't imagine how it must feel to be stuck in the middle of it.

Nane1104,

I agree with you. I hope, they would expedite sending RFEs.

[DavidandEli 0]

I hate this "abuse against women" stuff"

It is sexist biased #######...

Why.... becuase abuse can happen against anyone to anyone regardless of gender..

men can abuse woman

women can abuse men

men can abuse men

woman can abuse women

people can mistreat animals

All of the above happens and all of it is wrong...

It is my opinion that women abuse men just as much as the other way

around if not more.

The issue is that men are too proud to report it and sometimes don't

even recognize abusive behavior for what it is. No man wants to admit that he

is abused by his wife and that he is psycologically a basket case becuase he is always being

told what a useless waste of a human being he is.

I have no arrests, convictions or even police encounters for abuse but my ex-wife has tried everything

possible to get me to do something I would regret.

So.. lets be fair on these boards... and call it SPOUSAL abuse.

or VIOLENCE against PEOPLE.

Women don't have a monopoly when it comes to being mistreated or abused. They just shout the loudest about it.

Lets open our eyes to the other side... Spousal abuse by women towards their spouses, causes alcholism,

depression, suicides and broken lives all the time.

[Taye500 0]

I hate this "abuse against women" stuff"

It is sexist biased #######...

Why.... becuase abuse can happen against anyone to anyone regardless of gender..

men can abuse woman

women can abuse men

men can abuse men

woman can abuse women

people can mistreat animals

All of the above happens and all of it is wrong...

It is my opinion that women abuse men just as much as the other way

around if not more.

The issue is that men are too proud to report it and sometimes don't

even recognize abusive behavior for what it is. No man wants to admit that he

is abused by his wife and that he is psycologically a basket case becuase he is always being

told what a useless waste of a human being he is.

I have no arrests, convictions or even police encounters for abuse but my ex-wife has tried everything

possible to get me to do something I would regret.

So.. lets be fair on these boards... and call it SPOUSAL abuse.

or VIOLENCE against PEOPLE.

Women don't have a monopoly when it comes to being mistreated or abused. They just shout the loudest about it.

Lets open our eyes to the other side... Spousal abuse by women towards their spouses, causes alcholism,

depression, suicides and broken lives all the time.

IMBRA is not only for women, it is also meant to protect men. It is for everybody outside the USA wanting to immigrate to the country on the basis of fiance visa regardless of sex. It is only unfortunate that women makes up high percentage of the ones getting abused. Get it ?

[DavidandEli 0]

I hate this "abuse against women" stuff"

It is sexist biased #######...

Why.... becuase abuse can happen against anyone to anyone regardless of gender..

men can abuse woman

women can abuse men

men can abuse men

woman can abuse women

people can mistreat animals

All of the above happens and all of it is wrong...

It is my opinion that women abuse men just as much as the other way

around if not more.

The issue is that men are too proud to report it and sometimes don't

even recognize abusive behavior for what it is. No man wants to admit that he

is abused by his wife and that he is psycologically a basket case becuase he is always being

told what a useless waste of a human being he is.

I have no arrests, convictions or even police encounters for abuse but my ex-wife has tried everything

possible to get me to do something I would regret.

So.. lets be fair on these boards... and call it SPOUSAL abuse.

or VIOLENCE against PEOPLE.

Women don't have a monopoly when it comes to being mistreated or abused. They just shout the loudest about it.

Lets open our eyes to the other side... Spousal abuse by women towards their spouses, causes alcholism,

depression, suicides and broken lives all the time.

IMBRA is not only for women, it is also meant to protect men. It is for everybody outside the USA wanting to immigrate to the country on the basis of fiance visa regardless of sex. It is only unfortunate that women makes up high percentage of the ones getting abused. Get it ?

Women make up the most complaints but the difference may end there. Female to Male abuse is silent, ugly, prevalent, and destructive. It goes unreported and unaddressed most all of the time.

In short we really have no idea how many men are abused because men don’t report it or talk about it until it is way too late and situations are out of control.

Again, abuse is equal opportunity and not sex specific.

[Fuzzness 2]

it's not anyone's fault that most abused men don't report it....

[Caladan 19]

The law is equal opportunity -- if I had a conviction for assault, IMBRA would affect me, too. The law just isn't gender-specific, and no amount of whining makes it discrimination against men.

Now, that said, you have to be in serious denial if you think sex trafficking is just as much of a problem for immigrant men as it is for immigrant women. Or that there are many sites saying 'marry a submissive Russian man who has low self-esteem who hasn't been ruined by American masculinity.' Fact is, the problem IMBRA is trying to address is one of immigrant women being abused because, like, that's the reported problem.

But IMBRA doesn't single out men. It's not a discriminatory law.

[Taye500 0]

I hate this "abuse against women" stuff"

It is sexist biased #######...

Why.... becuase abuse can happen against anyone to anyone regardless of gender..

men can abuse woman

women can abuse men

men can abuse men

woman can abuse women

people can mistreat animals

All of the above happens and all of it is wrong...

It is my opinion that women abuse men just as much as the other way

around if not more.

The issue is that men are too proud to report it and sometimes don't

even recognize abusive behavior for what it is. No man wants to admit that he

is abused by his wife and that he is psycologically a basket case becuase he is always being

told what a useless waste of a human being he is.

I have no arrests, convictions or even police encounters for abuse but my ex-wife has tried everything

possible to get me to do something I would regret.

So.. lets be fair on these boards... and call it SPOUSAL abuse.

or VIOLENCE against PEOPLE.

Women don't have a monopoly when it comes to being mistreated or abused. They just shout the loudest about it.

Lets open our eyes to the other side... Spousal abuse by women towards their spouses, causes alcholism,

depression, suicides and broken lives all the time.

IMBRA is not only for women, it is also meant to protect men. It is for everybody outside the USA wanting to immigrate to the country on the basis of fiance visa regardless of sex. It is only unfortunate that women makes up high percentage of the ones getting abused. Get it ?

Women make up the most complaints but the difference may end there. Female to Male abuse is silent, ugly, prevalent, and destructive. It goes unreported and unaddressed most all of the time.

In short we really have no idea how many men are abused because men don’t report it or talk about it until it is way too late and situations are out of control.

Again, abuse is equal opportunity and not sex specific.

This post realy shows how naive or how young the poster must be. This IMBRA affect just the same as anybody on this board, but the truth is the IMBRA law was implemented based on statistics of innocent victims that were being victimised by unsuspecting foreigners. Nobody ever said IMBRA was for men or women only but the truth still remains that most domestic violence victims are women. If more men are victims and decide not to report it, the women must be a smarter sex then. And just in case you are wondering, i'm a grown @$$ MEN !!!

[Chuckles 0]

Especially a felony against a woman. You can thank IMBRA for that and support it 100%. This is why we have IMBRA to protect women fro those killers,pimps,pediphile, molesters drug addicts e.t.c. This IMBRA does not bother me 'cause i have no criminal past to worry about. And frankly i think most interviewers are gonna frown at any criminal records. Especially a violent one. which is good. No need putting an innocent woman at risk because she wants to live in America !!!

You mis-understand the law. You can file for and recieve a K1 visa for a benificiary even with a criminal record.

Before you get all high and mighty, I have no criminal record, I did not use a IMB, and I was uneffected by the delays of IMBRA. I'm only an advocate for effective legislation.

I hope the information helps someone, but it stops nothing.

[iceyspots 0]

and again, if a man doesnt want to report it, it is his fault and he'll never get his justice.

[drogger1 0]

Especially a felony against a woman. You can thank IMBRA for that and support it 100%. This is why we have IMBRA to protect women fro those killers,pimps,pediphile, molesters drug addicts e.t.c. This IMBRA does not bother me 'cause i have no criminal past to worry about. And frankly i think most interviewers are gonna frown at any criminal records. Especially a violent one. which is good. No need putting an innocent woman at risk because she wants to live in America !!!

Why isn't this in the off topic forum? I'm getting tired of reading peoples opinions about this and that in a forum that is supposed to be about K-1 visas. You are entitled to your opinion, just post it in the proper place forum.

[Alex+R 0]

Especially a felony against a woman. You can thank IMBRA for that and support it 100%. This is why we have IMBRA to protect women fro those killers,pimps,pediphile, molesters drug addicts e.t.c. This IMBRA does not bother me 'cause i have no criminal past to worry about. And frankly i think most interviewers are gonna frown at any criminal records. Especially a violent one. which is good. No need putting an innocent woman at risk because she wants to live in America !!!

Why isn't this in the off topic forum? I'm getting tired of reading peoples opinions about this and that in a forum that is supposed to be about K-1 visas. You are entitled to your opinion, just post it in the proper place forum.

Agreed. I have no idea why we are STILL debating the merits of IMBRA. Sure some people will be unfairly punished by it, like all laws, but it will probably protect a lot of women. Let's face it, IMBRA is not a bad law.

What was bad? USCIS's major screw-up. The RFE delays, the delay in creating the new form. These things are K-1 related.

Let's just put this issue to bed?

[edsperfect 25]

Hm.

I agree...if you don't have any felonies in your background, you don't have to worry about IMBRA.

And I guess at the end it really won't affect a lot of people here.

BUT...what about those where you have 15+ years from the conviction to now and who says, the fiancees of those men want to get married just to get to the States?

I think the idea of IMBRA, protecting the woman, is good, but the way they started this (right forms unavailable, just "freeze" cases, not letting people know what's going on, basically being totally un-organized) was ridiculous and caused so much unneccesary headache, heartache and trouble...and THAT'S what I didn't like about IMBRA.

And I am not even effected by it, but just to read about all these stories here, is frusterating, I can't imagine how it must feel to be stuck in the middle of it.

Nane1104,

I agree with you. I hope, they would expedite sending RFEs.

The way I read IMRA a criminal record for a US citizen only means the potential fi8ence must be told about it. It does not disqualify the US citizen from applying for a 129F