HUGE age differences!!!

[Ban Hammer 13,625]

Nah, you are either just a lazy ######, lack education, or are trying to be 'young and trendy'. Softly spoken? What a bunch of #######.

judgementalism, party of one, your table is ready.

Good grief, look #######, I do know why most people don't use capitals and other forms of punctuation on message boards, for whatever reason they haven't learned to use a keyboard to full effect and it means nothing more than that. I certainly don't judge people simply based on their use of a keyboard.

Justashooter on the other hand switches between different styles of writing, sometimes capitalizations, sometimes not, sometimes paragraphs correctly used, sometimes not, sometimes using all correct punctuation, sometimes not. That is odd, whichever way you slice it.

apparently someone is spun up about not using caps. i wonder who that is.

the #'s give it away.

Spun up? How could you be so far off the mark Charlie? Unbelievable.

sure thing, madam chav

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'm generally skeptical of big age gaps - not so much later in life (though men in their 40's and 50's dating early 20-somethings was always a bit weird to me). Speaking from my own experience - I tended towards women within a year or two of my own age (the max for me was 4 years) and my wife is actually a year older than me.

When I was dating in my early 20's I found I never had much in common with say, an 18 year old, when I was at age 23.

[Peikko 1,575]

Nah, you are either just a lazy ######, lack education, or are trying to be 'young and trendy'. Softly spoken? What a bunch of #######.

judgementalism, party of one, your table is ready.

Good grief, look #######, I do know why most people don't use capitals and other forms of punctuation on message boards, for whatever reason they haven't learned to use a keyboard to full effect and it means nothing more than that. I certainly don't judge people simply based on their use of a keyboard.

Justashooter on the other hand switches between different styles of writing, sometimes capitalizations, sometimes not, sometimes paragraphs correctly used, sometimes not, sometimes using all correct punctuation, sometimes not. That is odd, whichever way you slice it.

apparently someone is spun up about not using caps. i wonder who that is.

the #'s give it away.

Spun up? How could you be so far off the mark Charlie? Unbelievable.

sure thing, madam chav

Yeah, like you know what a chav is...keep trying charlie, eventually you will hit on something that will upset me...

[Ban Hammer 13,625]

Nah, you are either just a lazy ######, lack education, or are trying to be 'young and trendy'. Softly spoken? What a bunch of #######.

judgementalism, party of one, your table is ready.

Good grief, look #######, I do know why most people don't use capitals and other forms of punctuation on message boards, for whatever reason they haven't learned to use a keyboard to full effect and it means nothing more than that. I certainly don't judge people simply based on their use of a keyboard.

Justashooter on the other hand switches between different styles of writing, sometimes capitalizations, sometimes not, sometimes paragraphs correctly used, sometimes not, sometimes using all correct punctuation, sometimes not. That is odd, whichever way you slice it.

apparently someone is spun up about not using caps. i wonder who that is.

the #'s give it away.

Spun up? How could you be so far off the mark Charlie? Unbelievable.

sure thing, madam chav

Yeah, like you know what a chav is...keep trying charlie, eventually you will hit on something that will upset me...

what, you mean wiki is wrong?

[justashooter 430]

So you can see how a Taoist man is ideally suited for the role of an older husband. He cares for his wife as he would anyone needing guidance, encouraging her to grow in an healthy direction, having completed the revant stages in his own life. This is possible with an asian woman. It may not work well with a westernised woman.

It sounds rather like paternalism. Definitely sounds like its suited for someone with a big ego and overinflated sense of self that you see yourself in this way.

Very strange.

The Ming the Merciless picture I posted earlier might have been apropos

If you understand paternalism, then you understand one face of the traditional Chinese marriage. If a man will be succesful in a marriage to a traditional Chinese woman like my wife, he must understand and adopt parts of the role. To fail in this regard will lead to chaos within the home. Traditionan Chinese women can be very difficult for a weak man to live with, as they have no respect for weakness, and feel insecure when tied to a weak man. Other asians are similar, in degree.

I always thought the mockery of the Mongol culture seen in the Buck Rogers films was entertaining. The dynastic name, the costumes, the actor's gestures, it was all very funny. Ming was a Mongol dynasty that was harsh on the Han people, and the Ching replacement was well received in it's early days, as a return to Han power. Mongols, to this day, are not well liked in most of China.

But how does this tie in with your statement that chinese men are metaphorically "short of schlong". Wouldn't it need to be the opposite in order for this to work?

You can't be a patriarch if you're not patriarchal.

BTW - Ming the Merciless was from Flash Gordon, not Buck Rogers

you're right. it was flash gordon.

for thousands of years, chinese men have been hard workers, hard drinkers, hard husbands, and hard parents. that is all changing. treasure the chinese men you know over the age of 40. they are the last of their kind, and several are among my closest friends.

young chinese men do not measure well against their fathers. the men born after the 1970's are generally an only child, and have been spoiled from birth. in china, the child is often referred to as "huang di" (the emperor), and doted on because there will only be one, and he has 4 grandparents and 2 parents to tend to him.

many young chinese men have not grown up yet, preferring to spend their time and their parents savings in internet parlours, choosing not to work in jobs that are "beneath them" (any job less than emperor, which is what they have been since birth). their parents pay for their college, their apartments, their cellphones, clothes and food, and give them pocket change until they are 25-29. they are often very sensitive and effeminate, having been raised by their grandmothers and mothers.

because of this dramatic shift in the nature of the chinese man, there is a natural dissatisfaction in the heart of the young women we see in china today. talk to any mainland girl, and you will hear it. they are all searching for a man, and tired of finding boys in men's bodies.

my wife's friends have often spoken of this to us, and usually settle for not much just to get it over with. they are not happy in these marriages, and call my wife weekly to discuss. it's done in luoyanghua, so i don't understand it all, but yang tells me about it. her friends have often asked my advice, and i help them if i can. usually i just reflect what they are saying in a distilled form, helping them process their own jumbled thoughts. in the end, they decide what they are going to do.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

The trouble was Bush was judged on the basis of dozens of interviews and press conferences he fluffed over an 8 year period.

Obama would have his work cut-out to beat that.

When I was living back in the UK it used to be funny the first couple of years after Bush got elected - hearing him make gaffe after gaffe whenever he appeared on TV, but eventually it got old and a bit embarrassing to see the country run by such an obvious dope.

A dope who had to defer the subordinates when asked specific questions of policy. While Obama may rely inordinately on teleprompters for speeches - he's pretty good on the fly at answering questions in a way that shows he understands the issues involved.

In that regard Obama is a fairly typical politician - well-spoken, obviously intellectually gifted but who may well fall short of the high promises he made in the campaign (as Tony Blair did in the UK). I wouldn't call Blair unintelligent, but he certainly was a slimy wanker.

Bush by contrast was the substandard figure. In fact wasn't that part of his initial appeal - that he wasn't a "typical" politician but rather a down to earth guy that people would want to have a beer with?

Of course - we know the truth now.

I dont like Bushs spending spree. I did like what ive seen in interviews with him when he was just shootin the breeze. The thing about Obama that drives me nuts, is hearing him tell me how I need to keep my financial house in order while he is using a crisis to spend so much fvckin money. I truly beleive this guy is very dangerous for this country financially.

[justashooter 430]

So you can see how a Taoist man is ideally suited for the role of an older husband. He cares for his wife as he would anyone needing guidance, encouraging her to grow in an healthy direction, having completed the revant stages in his own life. This is possible with an asian woman. It may not work well with a westernised woman.

It sounds rather like paternalism. Definitely sounds like its suited for someone with a big ego and overinflated sense of self that you see yourself in this way.

Very strange.

The Ming the Merciless picture I posted earlier might have been apropos

Isn't it just? He has learned life skills and needs to 'pass those on' to a young girl. I wonder if he would view his daughters marrying older men in such a charitable light? That is if he has daughters. I can't remember now, but I think so. Makes you think...

he has a daughter who is 21. she is well educated and clever, nearly finished her studies and working for a specialty kitchens components manufacturer, managing their french speaking customer relataions. she is living with a 29 year old guy. the guy is nice enough, and he takes care of her. her father does not object.

That's not the question I posed. I wondered how you would feel if one of your young daughters was 'taken in hand' by an older man, say a guy in his 40's man who wanted to 'educate' her and make her his ideal of what a wife should be?

if he was kind to her, i would understand. if he was not, i wouldn't approve.

she probably wouldn't choose a man 18 years older than her, but then, she's not a chinese woman.

she's westernised. didn't i remark on the difference earlier?

[justashooter 430]

The thing about Obama that drives me nuts, is hearing him tell me how I need to keep my financial house in order while he is using a crisis to spend so much fvckin money. I truly beleive this guy is very dangerous for this country financially.

we tend to judge people by the things they have done.

obama has spent his entire political carreer arranging for people he knows to take government money to construct and manage welfare housing and "empowerment programs", and pay him off on the side.

remind me, who bought the house obama has lived in since 2005?

it's tax evasion, at the very least. more likely, it's tax evasion and graft.

"In the 2005 deal, Obama purchased a house for $300,000 less than its owners were asking, and Rezko simultaneously bought the adjacent lot from the same seller at full price."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4315880&page=1

Edited March 13, 2009 by justashooter

[Peikko 1,575]

So you can see how a Taoist man is ideally suited for the role of an older husband. He cares for his wife as he would anyone needing guidance, encouraging her to grow in an healthy direction, having completed the revant stages in his own life. This is possible with an asian woman. It may not work well with a westernised woman.

It sounds rather like paternalism. Definitely sounds like its suited for someone with a big ego and overinflated sense of self that you see yourself in this way.

Very strange.

The Ming the Merciless picture I posted earlier might have been apropos

Isn't it just? He has learned life skills and needs to 'pass those on' to a young girl. I wonder if he would view his daughters marrying older men in such a charitable light? That is if he has daughters. I can't remember now, but I think so. Makes you think...

he has a daughter who is 21. she is well educated and clever, nearly finished her studies and working for a specialty kitchens components manufacturer, managing their french speaking customer relataions. she is living with a 29 year old guy. the guy is nice enough, and he takes care of her. her father does not object.

That's not the question I posed. I wondered how you would feel if one of your young daughters was 'taken in hand' by an older man, say a guy in his 40's man who wanted to 'educate' her and make her his ideal of what a wife should be?

if he was kind to her, i would understand. if he was not, i wouldn't approve.

she probably wouldn't choose a man 18 years older than her, but then, she's not a chinese woman.

she's westernised. didn't i remark on the difference earlier?

Would you not feel that you had failed, as a father if another 'father figure' had to teach her how to be a good wife?

What I see, is you, a Western man, trying to justify your midlife crisis in ways that become increasingly more bizarre as time goes on. What Chinese people do within their own culture is one thing (a culture you show a token respect for when it suits and to disparage and insult when it does not) and what a Western man does when he chooses to visit and or take a bride from within another culture should be quite another.

Edited March 13, 2009 by Madame Cleo

[Nessa 23]

charlie?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

charlie?

It beats the hec outta Chuckie!

[justashooter 430]

Would you not feel that you had failed, as a father if another 'father figure' had to teach her how to be a good wife?

What I see, is you, a Western man, trying to justify your midlife crisis in ways that become increasingly more bizarre as time goes on. What Chinese people do within their own culture is one thing (a culture you show a token respect for when it suits and to disparage and insult when it does not) and what a Western man does when he chooses to visit and or take a bride from within another culture should be quite another.

my wife has a good relationship with her father. he and i get on well, also. he is about 10 years older than i am.

learn a little bit about chinese culture before you school me on it, huh? read a little bit about Sun Yat Sen's marriages.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

charlie?

It beats the hec outta Chuckie!

How about Carlitos?????

[Ban Hammer 13,625]

charlie?

it's because someone's reading impaired. i sure hope obama can help her with a stimulus plan.

charlie?

It beats the hec outta Chuckie!

How about Carlitos?????

carlos will work. or karl.

[Peikko 1,575]

Would you not feel that you had failed, as a father if another 'father figure' had to teach her how to be a good wife?

What I see, is you, a Western man, trying to justify your midlife crisis in ways that become increasingly more bizarre as time goes on. What Chinese people do within their own culture is one thing (a culture you show a token respect for when it suits and to disparage and insult when it does not) and what a Western man does when he chooses to visit and or take a bride from within another culture should be quite another.

my wife has a good relationship with her father. he and i get on well, also. he is about 10 years older than i am.

learn a little bit about chinese culture before you school me on it, huh? read a little bit about Sun Yat Sen's marriages.

Again, nothing to do with what I was addressing. You are a Western man. I am not schooling you on Chinese culture, simply trying to understand why a Western man would try to emulate some Chinese cultural phenomena and not others. Seemingly, the ones you 'like' pertain to the treatment of women as 'children' to be formed and sculpted into your version of what a wife should be. I find that an odd thing for a Western man to wish for.

charlie?

it's because someone's reading impaired. i sure hope obama can help her with a stimulus plan.

charlie?

It beats the hec outta Chuckie!

How about Carlitos?????

carlos will work. or karl.

Keep working on it Charlie, eventually, who knows? I might find something you say a tad irritating. Oh, but that would only work if I cared how I was perceived by you. Ooops, I don't.

Edited March 13, 2009 by Madame Cleo