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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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hi there everyone I have a question about the ssn card.do you have to wait the 2 weeks before we apply for a card.or can we apply right when he gets here.Also what info did they ask you for.Did you need a marriage certificate,passport,or do you not need the marriage cert.let me know thank you in advance.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: Egypt
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http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10096.html#how

You should wait about 2 weeks for his info to be entered into the system.

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hi there everyone I have a question about the ssn card.do you have to wait the 2 weeks before we apply for a card.or can we apply right when he gets here.Also what info did they ask you for.Did you need a marriage certificate,passport,or do you not need the marriage cert.let me know thank you in advance.

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You need to wait the 2 weeks (or about 8 working days) to apply; this gives them time to enter you into their system - (that's the reason for the two weeks).

You do not need a marriage certificate - just your passport (which will have your I-94 in it).

Check out http://www.ssa.gov/ssnumber/ :thumbs:

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Well guys I also noticed on the application where it says race ethnic and his is not there he is egyptian so what did you guys fill out for that info

You're right about that - you can leave it blank since its optional... :thumbs:

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hi there everyone I have a question about the ssn card.do you have to wait the 2 weeks before we apply for a card.or can we apply right when he gets here.Also what info did they ask you for.Did you need a marriage certificate,passport,or do you not need the marriage cert.

He can wait 10 calendar days to allow time for his entry into the country to be recorded in the database SSA checks to verify his status, but it's not a requirement.

An individual with K-1 status applying for a work authorized SSN must present evidence at an SSA office in person to establish his or her age, identity and current lawful employment authorized status.

The applicant needs to provide at least two documents as evidence to establish age, identity and current lawful employment authorized status. If one document is used for identity and employment authorized, another has to be provided for age.

SSA will not assign an SSN or issue a card to an individual that is within 14 days of his or her alien status expiring. Until the 76th day after entry an individual with K-1 status only needs to provide an unexpired I-94 showing current K-1 status to establish employment authorized status for SSN purposes.

Once, an individual that entered the United States with K-1 status has been in the United States 76 days he or she will need another document, i.e. I-551 or I-766 to establish employment authorized status for SSN purposes.

RM 00203.500 Employment Authorization for Nonimmigrants:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203500

RM 00203.410 Evidence of Alien Status for an SSN Card for an Alien Lawfully Admitted for Permanent Residence:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203410

Note: Marriage does in invalidate K-1 status

When requesting an SSN card, the documents presented, as evidence must be either originals or copies certified by the issuing agency. SSA will not accept uncertified or notarized photocopies as evidence.

"If the applicant has no immediate need for the SSN and the translation can be done promptly or the foreign language document is the only evidence available; have the document translated by an authorized translator and use the document as evidence. If the applicant has a pressing need for an SSN, and evidence other than the foreign language document is available; request other evidence and process the application without the foreign language document."

RM 00203.040 Reviewing SSN Evidence:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203040#B3

GN 00301.340 Authorized Translators Defined:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0200301340

If a foreign-born person has the foreign birth certificate (BC) in his/her possession or can easily obtain a copy, he or she must submit it as proof of age. When a person is foreign-born, a BC may not exist, may not have been recorded shortly after birth, or the probative value of the document may not be high. In these situations, SSA can accept alternative evidence of age in order of probative value. The alternative evidence of age may be less than a year old, e.g., a DHS document or passport.

You can find detailed information regarding evidence that establishes age on the SSA Website at:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203110

The documents acceptable as evidence of identity are now based on three factors: (1) the applicant’s age, (2) the applicant’s citizenship/alien status, and (3) the relative probative value of documents.

Primary Evidence of identity for an alien:

-- Form I-551, Permanent Resident Card (includes temporary I-551 stamp in combination with an unexpired foreign passport when the I-551 Permanent Resident Card has not yet been issued)

-- Form I-94, Arrival/Departure Record in combination with an unexpired foreign passport

-- Form I-766, Employment Authorization card

You can find detailed information regarding evidence that establishes identity on the SSA Website at:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203200

SSA will not accept an application filing receipt or notice of action in place of an immigration document.

Take the required documents, to the nearest Social Security office. Individuals age 12 or older applying for an original SSN and card must apply in person at one of our offices.

You can obtain the address and directions to the nearest Social Security office from the Social Security Office Locator, which is available on the Internet at:

http://www.ssa.gov/locator

Note: Individuals that live or receive mail in a Card Center area must apply in person at a Card Center:

http://www.ssa.gov/cardcenters/cardcenterinfo.html

When an alien requests an SSN or replacement/corrected SSN card, SSA will verify his or her documents and current status with the appropriate Bureau of the Department of Homeland Security. If the initial verification is not available through the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) system, SSA may need to send Form G-845 for manual verification.

The 14 day status expiration limit for assigning an SSN and/or issuing a card applies even if an individual submitted his or her application before being within the 14 day period and entered the 14 day period while waiting for his or her status to be verified.

SSA offices can submit an additional electronic verification request, that in most cases eliminates the need for a Form G-845 to be sent. However, the response to the additional electronic verification request can be to send copies of the immigration document(s) under cover of Form G-845.

If your status does not verify through the initial SAVE request be sure that the secondary request has been made and return to the SSA office no more than once a week to see if the SSA office has received a response from the secondary verification request. If the G-845 is sent wait two weeks and start checking once a week for a response. Be sure to take your document whenever going into the SSA office.

All cards are mailed from Social Security Headquarters in Baltimore, Maryland to the postal address provided on the application.

You can find additional SSN and employment information on the Internal Revenue Service Website at:

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/intern...=129227,00.html

The IRS issues Individual Tax Identification Numbers for tax purposes to individuals that are not eligible to be assigned an SSN.

To be issued an ITIN Form W-7 must be submitted.

For more information you can contact the the ITIN office by calling 1-215-516-4846.

If issued an ITIN and later assigned an SSN, be sure to contact IRS to have the ITIN canceled.

When you apply for a new card card DO NOT DO NOT let them take your old card until you get the new one. Say the dog ate it.

RM 00201.080 Field Office (FO) Disposal of Returned Social Security Number (SSN) Cards:

http://web.archive.org/web/20060210014436/.../lnx/0100201080

2. Card Returned With Request For Replacement Card or New SSN

If the applicant has a card and requests a replacement card (duplicate or corrected) or a new SSN:

-- Ask the applicant to return the old SSN card. (If the applicant does not have the card with him or her, remind the applicant to return the old card to SSA for destruction or to keep the old card in a secure place [not in a wallet or purse]).

NOTE: Do not forcefully confiscate the SSN card if the applicant refuses to relinquish it. Similarly, return the old SSN card if the applicant requests that it be given back.

RM 00201.080 was removed from the SSA Website, but the archived copy is still valid POMS procedure.

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Filed: Country: Egypt
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We waited 2 weeks, and were not yet married when we applied and they only asked for his passport with the I-94 in it. I recall there was a SS Card Application as well. Piece of cake in and out in 10 minutes. Came in the mail a few weeks later.

Unless he is nubian I'd suggest putting "white". White is described as people of Europe, the Middle East and North Africa... That is what we put, however my husband is often perceived as Hispanic. There have been many discussions of this topic, but Egypt is indeed in North Africa. Nubian Egyptians in my opinion should put black, or African American. It's not about where you were born, it's about where your features originate... what do people see when they see your husband? Do they see a BLACK man? Or do they see a "middle eastern looking guy"? Legally no one can challenge what you put and you can always choose other... Unless you are going for an affirmative action issue, it really doesn't make a big difference...

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5. RACE/ETHNIC

DESCRIPTION Check One Only - Voluntary

Just leave it blank. Will have no effect on being assigned an SSN.

RM 00202.125 Form SS-5 Item 5 — Race/Ethnic Description

https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0100202125

A. Policy

An entry in item 5 is not required for an SSN to be assigned and a card issued. However, the information is used to develop general program statistics. It is not related in any way to personal identification of the individual.

B. Procedure

Make a reasonable effort to obtain an answer whenever it has been omitted. Leave item 5 blank if the applicant does not wish to respond.

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