Socialism and a new president

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Bully Pulpit

Since I, and other hard working middle class Americans am going to be paying taxes for not only all welfare recipients and those who are not as fortunate as the rest of us in the middle class, but millions of illegal aliens as well, add in the entire United States populations' health insurance to-boot and college educations for the masses, this letter received via email sums up my pouting mood about politics in America today.

When I had time to read through it, I thought the message was enlightening and wanted to share it. Though I understand our nation was in a recession and action was imperative, I'm distraught at the socialist movement blossoming in our country. I truly believe people need to wake up and see the direction we are heading before it's too late.

Rush Limbaugh had it right that the outpouring of capital is designed to decrease the social staircase that occurs in a capitalist society. But, the distance between the haves and have not's will always be present. If the government makes us each grow 15 carrots, at the end of the week, one will have three carrots and another 27. It's life and that's how it is. Socialism is good for non-achievers, but capitalism will prevail and the government can't stop it.

The letter reads as follows:

Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al:

We have stuck together since the late 1950's, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

Here is a model separation agreement:

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them).

We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood.

You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.

We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N... but we will no longer be paying the bill. We'll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World.

We'll practice trickledown economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like-minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

Sincerely,

John J. Wall

Law Student and an American

P.S. Also, please take Barbara Streisand & Jane Fonda with you.

Well, here's to honest debate and hopefully a sound country left after $4 trillion in budget money. Iraq will be replaced with Afghanistan - but it's not Iraq so I guess it's okay. Socialized medicine? Talk to the English or the Canadians - sounds good in theory, but in practice? Time will tell.

Jackie Taylor

Linn County News publisher

http://www.linncountynews.net/index.php?op...&Itemid=119

[Dan J 277]

If that were ever to happen the "Right" country would probably turn into an Americanized version of Iran. Very religious and nationalistic. Do anything that is not right under the bible, find yourself in jail by the Christian police. Alcohol might find itself in prohibition again. With a strong emphasis on capitalism and no social safety net, poverty rates would climb and most of the wealth and power would be held by an elite few. No free education, and most of the talented academics would probably not hang around. Even if they claim to be democratic, the country would eventually revert to some kind of totalitarianism, driven by religion and an unequal distribution of wealth.

The "Left" country would be socially very free, you can choose whatever religion you want, or don't choose any. You can do pretty much anything you want as long as it doesn't interfere with rights of others. Economically wealth would be more distributed. There will be rich and poor people, but wealth distribution would be much less dramatic than it would be in "Right" country.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

If that were ever to happen the "Right" country would probably turn into an Americanized version of Iran. Very religious and nationalistic. Do anything that is not right under the bible, find yourself in jail by the Christian police. Alcohol might find itself in prohibition again. With a strong emphasis on capitalism and no social safety net, poverty rates would climb and most of the wealth and power would be held by an elite few. No free education, and most of the talented academics would probably not hang around. Even if they claim to be democratic, the country would eventually revert to some kind of totalitarianism, driven by religion and an unequal distribution of wealth.

The "Left" country would be socially very free, you can choose whatever religion you want, or don't choose any. You can do pretty much anything you want as long as it doesn't interfere with rights of others. Economically wealth would be more distributed. There will be rich and poor people, but wealth distribution would be much less dramatic than it would be in "Right" country.

That makes it sound like the socially aware side of the country would be the better place to be, especially if you were poor, or had other special needs. Of course, if you were rich and greedy, you would want to take your stuff and head to the other side. Do you see any problems with that?

[Peikko 1,575]

It would be funny, except it sounds horribly like somebody doesn't want to accept the results of free and fair elections. I don't think the Founding Father's had that in mind when they set up your constitution. Again, I am sure this is not a generally held opinion, just one that springs from the far right, but it leaves an awfully sour taste, not to mention, I just can't imagine anyone saying something like that about the opposition where I come from.

Edited March 5, 2009 by Madame Cleo

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If that were ever to happen the "Right" country would probably turn into an Americanized version of Iran. Very religious and nationalistic. Do anything that is not right under the bible, find yourself in jail by the Christian police. Alcohol might find itself in prohibition again. With a strong emphasis on capitalism and no social safety net, poverty rates would climb and most of the wealth and power would be held by an elite few. No free education, and most of the talented academics would probably not hang around. Even if they claim to be democratic, the country would eventually revert to some kind of totalitarianism, driven by religion and an unequal distribution of wealth.

The "Left" country would be socially very free, you can choose whatever religion you want, or don't choose any. You can do pretty much anything you want as long as it doesn't interfere with rights of others. Economically wealth would be more distributed. There will be rich and poor people, but wealth distribution would be much less dramatic than it would be in "Right" country.

That makes it sound like the socially aware side of the country would be the better place to be, especially if you were poor, or had other special needs. Of course, if you were rich and greedy, you would want to take your stuff and head to the other side. Do you see any problems with that?

am sick & tired of paying F..ING taxes. I now suffer from sever TOXOPHOBIA f..K it 1000000000000000 times

[Peikko 1,575]

If that were ever to happen the "Right" country would probably turn into an Americanized version of Iran. Very religious and nationalistic. Do anything that is not right under the bible, find yourself in jail by the Christian police. Alcohol might find itself in prohibition again. With a strong emphasis on capitalism and no social safety net, poverty rates would climb and most of the wealth and power would be held by an elite few. No free education, and most of the talented academics would probably not hang around. Even if they claim to be democratic, the country would eventually revert to some kind of totalitarianism, driven by religion and an unequal distribution of wealth.

The "Left" country would be socially very free, you can choose whatever religion you want, or don't choose any. You can do pretty much anything you want as long as it doesn't interfere with rights of others. Economically wealth would be more distributed. There will be rich and poor people, but wealth distribution would be much less dramatic than it would be in "Right" country.

That makes it sound like the socially aware side of the country would be the better place to be, especially if you were poor, or had other special needs. Of course, if you were rich and greedy, you would want to take your stuff and head to the other side. Do you see any problems with that?

am sick & tired of paying F..ING taxes. I now suffer from sever TOXOPHOBIA f..K it 1000000000000000 times

I am sure there is a nice log cabin you can go live in in some wilderness where you will not have to bother with taxes.

[Time2gopeacefully 0]

If that were ever to happen the "Right" country would probably turn into an Americanized version of Iran. Very religious and nationalistic. Do anything that is not right under the bible, find yourself in jail by the Christian police. Alcohol might find itself in prohibition again. With a strong emphasis on capitalism and no social safety net, poverty rates would climb and most of the wealth and power would be held by an elite few. No free education, and most of the talented academics would probably not hang around. Even if they claim to be democratic, the country would eventually revert to some kind of totalitarianism, driven by religion and an unequal distribution of wealth.

The "Left" country would be socially very free, you can choose whatever religion you want, or don't choose any. You can do pretty much anything you want as long as it doesn't interfere with rights of others. Economically wealth would be more distributed. There will be rich and poor people, but wealth distribution would be much less dramatic than it would be in "Right" country.

That makes it sound like the socially aware side of the country would be the better place to be, especially if you were poor, or had other special needs. Of course, if you were rich and greedy, you would want to take your stuff and head to the other side. Do you see any problems with that?

am sick & tired of paying F..ING taxes. I now suffer from sever TOXOPHOBIA f..K it 1000000000000000 times

I am sure there is a nice log cabin you can go live in in some wilderness where you will not have to bother with taxes.

I pay up to my A... I feel like quitting my fricken job & collect like the rest

[Peikko 1,575]

If that were ever to happen the "Right" country would probably turn into an Americanized version of Iran. Very religious and nationalistic. Do anything that is not right under the bible, find yourself in jail by the Christian police. Alcohol might find itself in prohibition again. With a strong emphasis on capitalism and no social safety net, poverty rates would climb and most of the wealth and power would be held by an elite few. No free education, and most of the talented academics would probably not hang around. Even if they claim to be democratic, the country would eventually revert to some kind of totalitarianism, driven by religion and an unequal distribution of wealth.

The "Left" country would be socially very free, you can choose whatever religion you want, or don't choose any. You can do pretty much anything you want as long as it doesn't interfere with rights of others. Economically wealth would be more distributed. There will be rich and poor people, but wealth distribution would be much less dramatic than it would be in "Right" country.

That makes it sound like the socially aware side of the country would be the better place to be, especially if you were poor, or had other special needs. Of course, if you were rich and greedy, you would want to take your stuff and head to the other side. Do you see any problems with that?

am sick & tired of paying F..ING taxes. I now suffer from sever TOXOPHOBIA f..K it 1000000000000000 times

I am sure there is a nice log cabin you can go live in in some wilderness where you will not have to bother with taxes.

I pay up to my A... I feel like quitting my fricken job & collect like the rest

Like what rest? However, if you want to quit, go right ahead and go live on welfare, I am quite sure that is much better than earning a decent wage and paying taxes.

[Dan J 277]

If that were ever to happen the "Right" country would probably turn into an Americanized version of Iran. Very religious and nationalistic. Do anything that is not right under the bible, find yourself in jail by the Christian police. Alcohol might find itself in prohibition again. With a strong emphasis on capitalism and no social safety net, poverty rates would climb and most of the wealth and power would be held by an elite few. No free education, and most of the talented academics would probably not hang around. Even if they claim to be democratic, the country would eventually revert to some kind of totalitarianism, driven by religion and an unequal distribution of wealth.

The "Left" country would be socially very free, you can choose whatever religion you want, or don't choose any. You can do pretty much anything you want as long as it doesn't interfere with rights of others. Economically wealth would be more distributed. There will be rich and poor people, but wealth distribution would be much less dramatic than it would be in "Right" country.

That makes it sound like the socially aware side of the country would be the better place to be, especially if you were poor, or had other special needs. Of course, if you were rich and greedy, you would want to take your stuff and head to the other side. Do you see any problems with that?

I think the rich would probably end up being split. The right country would probably devalue arts and culture, as well has have limited access to good education. Anyone who values that kind of stuff, would not be happy on the "Right" side. Of course, there are rich who just care about money and property and would be better off on the right side.

The poor would end up being split if anything due to economics. Even if the "left" side starts out with more of the poor people. This is assuming that once the countries are formed, there is very little migration of people between the two "countries".

Its an interesting thought experiment. But in the end i think it would just create more problems.

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If that were ever to happen the "Right" country would probably turn into an Americanized version of Iran. Very religious and nationalistic. Do anything that is not right under the bible, find yourself in jail by the Christian police. Alcohol might find itself in prohibition again. With a strong emphasis on capitalism and no social safety net, poverty rates would climb and most of the wealth and power would be held by an elite few. No free education, and most of the talented academics would probably not hang around. Even if they claim to be democratic, the country would eventually revert to some kind of totalitarianism, driven by religion and an unequal distribution of wealth.

The "Left" country would be socially very free, you can choose whatever religion you want, or don't choose any. You can do pretty much anything you want as long as it doesn't interfere with rights of others. Economically wealth would be more distributed. There will be rich and poor people, but wealth distribution would be much less dramatic than it would be in "Right" country.

That makes it sound like the socially aware side of the country would be the better place to be, especially if you were poor, or had other special needs. Of course, if you were rich and greedy, you would want to take your stuff and head to the other side. Do you see any problems with that?

am sick & tired of paying F..ING taxes. I now suffer from sever TOXOPHOBIA f..K it 1000000000000000 times

I am sure there is a nice log cabin you can go live in in some wilderness where you will not have to bother with taxes.

Dude, now days the more you make the more you get F..ed up. I am going back to MARS! f..K it 1000000000000000 times

I pay up to my A... I feel like quitting my fricken job & collect like the rest

Like what rest? However, if you want to quit, go right ahead and go live on welfare, I am quite sure that is much better than earning a decent wage and paying taxes.

[Dan J 277]

If that were ever to happen the "Right" country would probably turn into an Americanized version of Iran. Very religious and nationalistic. Do anything that is not right under the bible, find yourself in jail by the Christian police. Alcohol might find itself in prohibition again. With a strong emphasis on capitalism and no social safety net, poverty rates would climb and most of the wealth and power would be held by an elite few. No free education, and most of the talented academics would probably not hang around. Even if they claim to be democratic, the country would eventually revert to some kind of totalitarianism, driven by religion and an unequal distribution of wealth.

The "Left" country would be socially very free, you can choose whatever religion you want, or don't choose any. You can do pretty much anything you want as long as it doesn't interfere with rights of others. Economically wealth would be more distributed. There will be rich and poor people, but wealth distribution would be much less dramatic than it would be in "Right" country.

That makes it sound like the socially aware side of the country would be the better place to be, especially if you were poor, or had other special needs. Of course, if you were rich and greedy, you would want to take your stuff and head to the other side. Do you see any problems with that?

am sick & tired of paying F..ING taxes. I now suffer from sever TOXOPHOBIA f..K it 1000000000000000 times

I am sure there is a nice log cabin you can go live in in some wilderness where you will not have to bother with taxes.

I pay up to my A... I feel like quitting my fricken job & collect like the rest

You can stop paying taxes if you like, we will just charge you every time you

• Use a road or sidewalk.
• Need public safety assistance - Police, fire or ambulance.
• Make you pay the unsubsidized costs for both fuel and food.
• Want to visit a park or other public meeting space.
• Want to go fishing or hunting on public land.
• Charge you hourly rates for use of the courts.
• Catching a criminal that damages you or your property

[Peikko 1,575]

Yes, most unfair. So, give up earning good money and live on welfare, seeing as they have it so good, or go live in a log cabin in the wilderness so you aren't a burden on the society you wish you were not living in.

Seriously, whiners, who needs them?

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If that were ever to happen the "Right" country would probably turn into an Americanized version of Iran. Very religious and nationalistic. Do anything that is not right under the bible, find yourself in jail by the Christian police. Alcohol might find itself in prohibition again. With a strong emphasis on capitalism and no social safety net, poverty rates would climb and most of the wealth and power would be held by an elite few. No free education, and most of the talented academics would probably not hang around. Even if they claim to be democratic, the country would eventually revert to some kind of totalitarianism, driven by religion and an unequal distribution of wealth.

The "Left" country would be socially very free, you can choose whatever religion you want, or don't choose any. You can do pretty much anything you want as long as it doesn't interfere with rights of others. Economically wealth would be more distributed. There will be rich and poor people, but wealth distribution would be much less dramatic than it would be in "Right" country.

That makes it sound like the socially aware side of the country would be the better place to be, especially if you were poor, or had other special needs. Of course, if you were rich and greedy, you would want to take your stuff and head to the other side. Do you see any problems with that?

am sick & tired of paying F..ING taxes. I now suffer from sever TOXOPHOBIA f..K it 1000000000000000 times

I am sure there is a nice log cabin you can go live in in some wilderness where you will not have to bother with taxes.

I pay up to my A... I feel like quitting my fricken job & collect like the rest

You can stop paying taxes if you like, we will just charge you every time you

• Use a road or sidewalk.
• Need public safety assistance - Police, fire or ambulance.
• Make you pay the unsubsidized costs for both fuel and food.
• Want to visit a park or other public meeting space.
• Want to go fishing or hunting on public land.
• Charge you hourly rates for use of the courts.
• Catching a criminal that damages you or your property

BTW, your list is NOT complete

Edited March 5, 2009 by Hey-wassapenin?

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am sick & tired of paying F..ING taxes. I now suffer from sever TOXOPHOBIA f..K it 1000000000000000 times

I am sure there is a nice log cabin you can go live in in some wilderness where you will not have to bother with taxes.

Ron Paul is the man!

[Niels Bohr 72]

Republicans don't really think much of the poor since their philosophy is to cutt-off the poor, and protect those who are already rich. It's okay to sacrifice a few beans.

Democrats believe it's not okay to sacrifice a few beans. Ever beans must be cared for.

In terms of absolute advantage and comparitively advantage in economics, the comparitively advantage makes far more changes than the absolute advantage.

This analogy can be use on the poor with scarce resources versus the rich with almost an infinite resource at their disposal. The rich will not change that much.

College education is nice to have for everybody.