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it's been a while i was thinking to join and since i got layed off and i'm sick and tired of going from a shop to another so i started the application to join the national guard

my goal in the guard is to become MP ( military police ) but they require to be citizen for it and i'm eligible in 2011 for this.

Now me and my wife discovered i can't have dual citizenship in the guard as well as in the active army and if i decide to get my american citizenship i'll have to renounce my canadian citizenship and that put me in a huge dilemma.

i want so bad to become MP then do it til my retirement if possible or become a cop after my service...

how many of you would renounce to your citizenship of your country of origin for a career?

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it's been a while i was thinking to join and since i got layed off and i'm sick and tired of going from a shop to another so i started the application to join the national guard my goal in the guard is to become MP ( military police ) but they require to be citizen for it and i'm eligible in 2011 for this.

I wasn't in the NG but isn't the NG a part-time gig after basic and AIT? You'll face deployment during wartime so it's not truly a part-time job.

i want so bad to become MP then do it til my retirement if possible or become a cop after my service...

You know yourself better than I do but if you're in your 30s it won't be easy. Hopefully, you've looked into requirements to be a civilian cop. Are prior service with the Canadian military?

how many of you would renounce to your citizenship of your country of origin for a career?

I wouldn't do it lightly but I'd do it if I wasn't planning to return to my country for while. Can't you switch citizenship in the future if necessary? I knew a Canadian soldier was in the French Foreign Legion but I think they get a reverse situation where they aren't granted French citizenship.

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If it's what you really want to do, and you don't think you'll want to return to Canada, then I'd go for it, but it's a really hard choice. Is there any way you can get your orginal citizenship back if you renounced the US citizenship if you later changed your mind? My step-son's friend is in the MP in the NG and is facing deployment pretty soon, though for now it is very part time and he still needs another job to make ends meet.

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Tough choice :unsure: I'm not sure I could offer you any advice that is going to help you make this very difficult decision.

+1. Good luck. Weigh in possibilities in future like if things do not work out in US (family, jobs, etc), would you ever want to go back to the home country?

Personal situation, I cannot be US citizen without loosing my old citizenship so when we got the 10 year greencard, that was it for us. We just have to deal with the fact that USCIS will always be a part of our life here. :(

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I was in the Canadian Armed Forces for nearly 15 yrs. I knew of a few Cdns guys gettin gout and joining the American Armed Forces, they never mentioned anything about giving up their CDn citizenship.

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i spoke to my recruiter today and after an hour discussing of possibilities, i'm 80% positive to sign up and serve my adoptive country with pride and honor then work my way to be in law enforcement

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i spoke to my recruiter today and after an hour discussing of possibilities, i'm 80% positive to sign up and serve my adoptive country with pride and honor then work my way to be in law enforcement

:thumbs: I don't think you can go wrong serving the United States of America! Semper Fi

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i spoke to my recruiter today and after an hour discussing of possibilities, i'm 80% positive to sign up and serve my adoptive country with pride and honor then work my way to be in law enforcement

:thumbs: I don't think you can go wrong serving the United States of America! Semper Fi

thanx

It's the same here in Florida that I've noticed (I know it's not the same all over).. to be a cop you have to be a citizen.. but you can drive an ambulance, be an EMT/Paramedic or even a Firefighter without being a citizen? Sounds logical (in this system lol) they'd want you to be a citizen in order to be an MP. Although from what I understand they'll take just about what ever they can get for man power at the minute, citizenship is not a requirement to be a grunt I'm sure?

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it's been a while i was thinking to join and since i got layed off and i'm sick and tired of going from a shop to another so i started the application to join the national guard

my goal in the guard is to become MP ( military police ) but they require to be citizen for it and i'm eligible in 2011 for this.

Now me and my wife discovered i can't have dual citizenship in the guard as well as in the active army and if i decide to get my american citizenship i'll have to renounce my canadian citizenship and that put me in a huge dilemma.

i want so bad to become MP then do it til my retirement if possible or become a cop after my service...

how many of you would renounce to your citizenship of your country of origin for a career?

I was in the National Guard for a lot of years, and it was a blast. Once you finish basic and AIT it's hard to keep in the necessary shape on your own, so if you are not self motivated, it is not the way to go. It can be a hassle with employers, but my employer was willing to work with me. There are lots of service schools you can go to, the per diem adds up fast, and you can walk away with a good chunk of change. I had enough for a down payment on a house after 8 weeks of OBEC at Fort Belvoir.

Being with an MP unit, they have a high level of deployment, even in peacetime, so be ready to spend weeks, months, or more, on active duty.

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