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I am about to start pationining of my wife who is a German national. And I am naturalized US Citizen. I saw the list of evidences of a bonafide marriage, but I am not sure what I need to show/proof from my current situation.

I saw on number 5 about addidavits sworn by third parties: I am guessing they are the witnesses at the wedding ceremony. If so, do we need to get a letter along with required information?

Also question about number 6 on relevant documentation to establish that there is an onoing marital union. What would be the relevant documents? Airline tickets?

5. Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties havingpersonal knowledge of the bona fides of the maritalrelationship (Each affidavit must contain the full nameand address, date and place of birth of the person makingthe affidavit, his or her relationship to the petitioner ofbeneficiary, if any, and complete information and detailsexplaining how the person acquired his or herknowledge of your marriage);

6. Any other relevant documentation to establish that thereis an ongoing marital union.

Thank you for your time.

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question 5, yes letters from people attending your wedding would be helpful. #6 airline tickets, copies of passport with stamps showing you have visited, pictures are very important, phone records, Copies of email or instant messages basically anything that proves you have an ongoing relationship. Good luck.

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Examples of proofs of bona fide relationship:

- Money transfers

- Joint lease of a house/apartment/hotel

- Phone bills

- Photos

- Affidavits from people who know you two

- Wedding/engagement ring receipts

- Emails and chat records

- Package receipts for stuff you've sent each other

- Postal mail and greeting cards

In short, anything that can prove you've spent time together and communicated as a normal couple would. :)

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I am about to start pationining of my wife who is a German national. And I am naturalized US Citizen. I saw the list of evidences of a bonafide marriage, but I am not sure what I need to show/proof from my current situation.

I saw on number 5 about addidavits sworn by third parties: I am guessing they are the witnesses at the wedding ceremony. If so, do we need to get a letter along with required information?

Also question about number 6 on relevant documentation to establish that there is an onoing marital union. What would be the relevant documents? Airline tickets?

5. Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties havingpersonal knowledge of the bona fides of the maritalrelationship (Each affidavit must contain the full nameand address, date and place of birth of the person makingthe affidavit, his or her relationship to the petitioner ofbeneficiary, if any, and complete information and detailsexplaining how the person acquired his or herknowledge of your marriage);

6. Any other relevant documentation to establish that thereis an ongoing marital union.

Thank you for your time.

Evidence of a bona fide marriage RELATIONSHIP is what they are requesting. You marriage certificate is all you need as evidence you got married. Affidavits from people who know nothing about your relationship but only attended a ceremony and/or party are meaningless. For newlyweds, some pictures and evidence you spent time together is sufficient for the petition stage. Then prepare for the interview by gathering the typical evidence of an ongoing genuine relationship between now and then.

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I am about to start pationining of my wife who is a German national. And I am naturalized US Citizen. I saw the list of evidences of a bonafide marriage, but I am not sure what I need to show/proof from my current situation.

I saw on number 5 about addidavits sworn by third parties: I am guessing they are the witnesses at the wedding ceremony. If so, do we need to get a letter along with required information?

Also question about number 6 on relevant documentation to establish that there is an onoing marital union. What would be the relevant documents? Airline tickets?

5. Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties havingpersonal knowledge of the bona fides of the maritalrelationship (Each affidavit must contain the full nameand address, date and place of birth of the person makingthe affidavit, his or her relationship to the petitioner ofbeneficiary, if any, and complete information and detailsexplaining how the person acquired his or herknowledge of your marriage);

6. Any other relevant documentation to establish that thereis an ongoing marital union.

Thank you for your time.

I followed the USCIS instructions, got two sworn-in-affidavits (notarized), one from my brother-in-law and another from family friends, and submitted to USCIS along with other evidences like wedding card, marriage pictures, hotel bills, boarding passes, greeting cards, etc.

*IR-1 Visa* VSC

I-130 (IR-1):

07/22/2008: NOA1

02/17/2009: I-130 NOA2: Approved in 210 days from NOA1 date

I-129F (K-3):

08/11/2008: NOA1

02/17/2009: I-129F NOA2: Approved in 190 days from NOA1 date

<not pursuing I-129F petition further but NVC forwarded case to Consulate on 02/24/2009>

NVC Journey:

02/19/2009: NVC Received/Case number assigned for I-130

02/20/2009: DS-3032 sent by e-mail and 03/04/2009: DS-3032 sent by regular mail

02/26/2009: NVC received DS-3032 Choice of Agent selection

02/26/2009: DS-3032 accepted and AOS Bill Generated but not IV Bill

02/28/2009: AOS Bill Package received in mail

02/28/2009: Paid AOS Bill and IV Bill (as it was available) online

03/03/2009: Both AOS and IV Bill Show as Paid and Coversheet Printed

03/04/2009: Mailed I-864 and IV (DS-230) Packages

03/06/2009: I-864 and IV Packages Received by NVC and Scanned on 03/10/2009

03/13/2009: Case completed at NVC (in 17 working days from date NVC Received)

03/25/2009: Interview date assigned by NVC

US Consulate @ Mumbai, India

04/02/2009: Medical Exam (based on NVC e-mail for interview)

04/13/2009: Interview Packet Received from US Consulate

04/16/2009: Documents submitted at VFS office

[Classified]: Date of Interview

USA Journey

02/21/2009: Permanent Resident # Received (Ref: NOA2 of USCIS)

05/2009: POE

##/##/2009: Permanent Resident Card

##/##/2009: SSN

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I am about to start pationining of my wife who is a German national. And I am naturalized US Citizen. I saw the list of evidences of a bonafide marriage, but I am not sure what I need to show/proof from my current situation.

I saw on number 5 about addidavits sworn by third parties: I am guessing they are the witnesses at the wedding ceremony. If so, do we need to get a letter along with required information?

Also question about number 6 on relevant documentation to establish that there is an onoing marital union. What would be the relevant documents? Airline tickets?

5. Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties havingpersonal knowledge of the bona fides of the maritalrelationship (Each affidavit must contain the full nameand address, date and place of birth of the person makingthe affidavit, his or her relationship to the petitioner ofbeneficiary, if any, and complete information and detailsexplaining how the person acquired his or herknowledge of your marriage);

6. Any other relevant documentation to establish that thereis an ongoing marital union.

Thank you for your time.

I followed the USCIS instructions, got two sworn-in-affidavits (notarized), one from my brother-in-law and another from family friends, and submitted to USCIS along with other evidences like wedding card, marriage pictures, hotel bills, boarding passes, greeting cards, etc.

USCIS does not "instruct" petitioners to submit affidavits. It's just one option among six general options, all of which are "optional". I've seen no evidence newlyweds need to submit ANY of the optional items with the US filed petitions.

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Evidence of a bona fide marriage RELATIONSHIP is what they are requesting. You marriage certificate is all you need as evidence you got married. Affidavits from people who know nothing about your relationship but only attended a ceremony and/or party are meaningless. For newlyweds, some pictures and evidence you spent time together is sufficient for the petition stage. Then prepare for the interview by gathering the typical evidence of an ongoing genuine relationship between now and then.

What if the newlyweds are superfresh newlyweds? We will have our civil wedding here (Canada) but hubby will then have to go back to the US. He'll be filing the I-130 pack soon after he gets back to the US. What can we show as "other relevant documentation" of our marriage when we would have been married just a week or so at the time the I-130 is mailed - i.e., no joint property, bank account, tenancy, etc. All we would have as proof of a marital union would be pictures/hotel receipts from the WEEK after the wedding.

Do we send in proof that we've been seeing each other for the past years before the wedding - e.g., boarding passes, emails, phone records, pics? But then, these only show that there was a relationship before the wedding. It doesn't show that there is an ongoing marital union.

What did others, who were fresh newlyweds (no joint ownership anything yet), submit with their I-130?

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I submitted letters (yes, from the 80s/early 90s-no email then!), emails after we found each other again, cards, evidence from trips (i.e. receipts, boarding passes, tickets, etc...), proof that I added my husband as a beneficiary on various things at work (retirement, life insurance...), ring receipts (yeah, probably dumb), and the coolest thing was a photo book done at a camera store starting with pics of us from 1988, then starting back to 2008, our wedding and after the wedding. That was the best evidence!

Unfortunately they sent my photo book back so now they have no pictures!

The ongoing marital union part is tough. I submitted the application almost a month after our wedding. All I had were pictures (and we know where those went!) emails, and the beneficiary proof. Everything else was from before!

Our timeline:

2/88: We met in Sydney, Australia at a youth hostel! He's Finnish, I'm American-both were in our early 20s at the time and fresh out of college (so couldn't afford to visit each other's countries after that!). We had a three-day romance, then went our separate ways. He actually was going to Sydney a week later, but decided at the last minute to cut his trip short in another country and go early. Wow.

1988-1998: Wrote "snail mail" letters/sent Xmas cards, but lived our separate lives. I married someone else, divorced in 2006...he lived with someone for years and then that ended.

10/08: Because of a series of random life events, I Googled my Finn Man and found him (but no link to his email, and the website his name was on was in Estonian so I couldn't even read it!). It took me two weeks to find a link to someone else, who forwarded my email to him (we were both single at the time thankfully!!!!). The email went to his spam folder but he happened to check it that day and responded back to me immediately! This was after 10 years of no contact and almost 21 years of not seeing each other after we first met.

11/08-5/09: We traveled back and forth to visit each other. Love at first (second?) sight!

7/09: Married in Helsinki, Finland...after meeting randomly 21 1/2 years ago and finding each other again!!!!!

8/13/09: I-130 sent!!!!!!!!!

Rest is on my timeline!

 
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