2009 poverty

[r0yalflush 0]

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showuser=19802

Read the posts of this member. You might need to go back a ways in your reading.

His situation may help you decide what to do.

i can't access to his posts, can you link me one of his post please?

His situations were from 2006, right now is 2009. Things have changed since then bro

[rebeccajo 14]

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showuser=19802

Read the posts of this member. You might need to go back a ways in your reading.

His situation may help you decide what to do.

i can't access to his posts, can you link me one of his post please?

His situations were from 2006, right now is 2009. Things have changed since then bro

Whatever.

[r0yalflush 0]

Well, I don't understand why you cannot access his posts. But here's a link to one of them nonetheless:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry2037548

this is what he said "My parents were co-sponsors, but amazingly enough, they were not considered. The interviewer told Anh that my income was enough. That really worried me because of the lack of 2005 records, but the letter from the IRS did the trick. However, anyone going through HCMC with a co-sponsor may run into trouble because the interviewer did tell Anh they don't consider them as of this year because of fraud."

[rebeccajo 14]

Well, I don't understand why you cannot access his posts. But here's a link to one of them nonetheless:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry2037548

this is what he said "My parents were co-sponsors, but amazingly enough, they were not considered. The interviewer told Anh that my income was enough. That really worried me because of the lack of 2005 records, but the letter from the IRS did the trick. However, anyone going through HCMC with a co-sponsor may run into trouble because the interviewer did tell Anh they don't consider them as of this year because of fraud."

Read about his whole case.

[r0yalflush 0]

Well, I don't understand why you cannot access his posts. But here's a link to one of them nonetheless:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry2037548

this is what he said "My parents were co-sponsors, but amazingly enough, they were not considered. The interviewer told Anh that my income was enough. That really worried me because of the lack of 2005 records, but the letter from the IRS did the trick. However, anyone going through HCMC with a co-sponsor may run into trouble because the interviewer did tell Anh they don't consider them as of this year because of fraud."

Read about his whole case.

i know you're trying to help, thank you very much

[krazyladki 0]

2009

http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/09poverty.shtml

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Another thing you might consider is if you have any assets, such as property, retirement accounts, 2nd car, etc., anything that can be turned into cash within one year. Assets are evaluated at one-third cash value. You may not have any assets, but that is always an option. Can you "acquire" assets in the meantime, since co-sponsorship does not seem to be an option for you?

[r0yalflush 0]

Another thing you might consider is if you have any assets, such as property, retirement accounts, 2nd car, etc., anything that can be turned into cash within one year. Assets are evaluated at one-third cash value. You may not have any assets, but that is always an option. Can you "acquire" assets in the meantime, since co-sponsorship does not seem to be an option for you?

i have a car that worth 10 grands

[Anh map 2,098]

Are you making 900 every 2 weeks or 1800 a month? The difference could be significant for you as 125% of poverty for 3 is 22,887. 900 every 2 puts you over that number, 1800 a month puts you under.

If you regularly get OT and it's reasonable that you would continue to get that going forward that may be helpful if your employer would include that in the letter.

[r0yalflush 0]

Are you making 900 every 2 weeks or 1800 a month? The difference could be significant for you as 125% of poverty for 3 is 22,887. 900 every 2 puts you over that number, 1800 a month puts you under.

If you regularly get OT and it's reasonable that you would continue to get that going forward that may be helpful if your employer would include that in the letter.

i know, 900 every 2 weeks is for sure not under but right at the guidelines. i might get my raise soon and that'll put me at about 900, in that case no needs for OT. What if i get a raise from my job 2-3 months before my fiancee's interview? would 2-3 months worth of paystubs showing 900 every 2 weeks be qualify?

Edited March 1, 2009 by r0yalflush

[r0yalflush 0]

Are you making 900 every 2 weeks or 1800 a month? The difference could be significant for you as 125% of poverty for 3 is 22,887. 900 every 2 puts you over that number, 1800 a month puts you under.

If you regularly get OT and it's reasonable that you would continue to get that going forward that may be helpful if your employer would include that in the letter.

i know, 900 every 2 weeks is for sure not under but right at the guidelines. i might get my raise soon and that'll put me at about 900, in that case no needs for OT. What if i get a raise from my job 2-3 months before my fiancee's interview? would 2-3 months worth of paystubs showing 900 every 2 weeks be qualify?

ops let me rephrase that

i know, 950 every 2 weeks is for sure not under but right at the guidelines. i might get my raise soon and that'll put me at about 950, in that case no needs for OT. What if i get a raise from my job 2-3 months before my fiancee's interview? would 2-3 months worth of paystubs showing 950 every 2 weeks be qualify?

[Anh map 2,098]

Make sure that your employer letter is up to date stating your newest wage. 2 to 3 months of pay stubs showing the new wages will support the letter.

Keep on top of all the aspects of your application so you can get your family here with you. As you know HCMC can be really tough. Don't get discouraged. It's worth all the headaches.

[r0yalflush 0]

Make sure that your employer letter is up to date stating your newest wage. 2 to 3 months of pay stubs showing the new wages will support the letter.

Keep on top of all the aspects of your application so you can get your family here with you. As you know HCMC can be really tough. Don't get discouraged. It's worth all the headaches.

Thank you very much bro, your statement means a lot.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Are you making 900 every 2 weeks or 1800 a month? The difference could be significant for you as 125% of poverty for 3 is 22,887. 900 every 2 puts you over that number, 1800 a month puts you under.

If you regularly get OT and it's reasonable that you would continue to get that going forward that may be helpful if your employer would include that in the letter.

i know, 900 every 2 weeks is for sure not under but right at the guidelines. i might get my raise soon and that'll put me at about 900, in that case no needs for OT. What if i get a raise from my job 2-3 months before my fiancee's interview? would 2-3 months worth of paystubs showing 900 every 2 weeks be qualify?

Yes, normally yes. But obviously HCMC plays fast and loose. You state your current annual income at the date you fill out the I-134. Your base income is calculated either salary x 12 or hourly wage x 2080. Then do the overtime formula (always use current wage for this calculation, calculate OT by hours to date)

My only concern in reading this thread is that HCMC may just look at all this and say "Sorry, we don't want to count overtime and you do not make enough OVER the poverty line to satisfy us that she will not be a public charge" Someone with HCMC experience can help. In most consulates if you make $1 more than the minimum, you are good to go. But it sounds like you have no option.

It is 2009, you could have expected to deal with 2009 guidelines. You are very lucky it did not go up more. I fully expect 2010 to increase considerably more. The 2010 numbers will be prepared by Obama's administration and they have a vested interest in increasing the number of people in "poverty" so they can "rescue" by confiscating more money from people that earn it and giving it to people that do not earn it. The higher the "poverty" line, the more people in poverty, the more people dependeant on government.

[rebeccajo 14]

It is 2009, you could have expected to deal with 2009 guidelines. You are very lucky it did not go up more. I fully expect 2010 to increase considerably more. The 2010 numbers will be prepared by Obama's administration and they have a vested interest in increasing the number of people in "poverty" so they can "rescue" by confiscating more money from people that earn it and giving it to people that do not earn it. The higher the "poverty" line, the more people in poverty, the more people dependeant on government.

What?

http://www.irp.wisc.edu/faqs/faq1.htm

Some people think that the HHS poverty guidelines will tell them what the poverty line is this year. The poverty guidelines that HHS released in January 2008 are labeled as year 2008 poverty guidelines.

The 2008 poverty guidelines may appear to be one year more up-to-date than the Census Bureau's poverty thresholds for 2007, but they are not. The Census Bureau and HHS follow different labeling practices. Each makes sense within the context of its own agency's work but looking at the two versions together may lead to confusion.

The Census Bureau labels its poverty thresholds by the year to which they are applied. The 2007 poverty thresholds will be applied to income data for calendar year 2007 to calculate figures on how many Americans were poor in 2007; the 2007 thresholds reflect price changes through calendar year 2007. The time at which the Bureau actually issues the thresholds is not particularly relevant.

HHS, in contrast, labels its poverty guidelines by the year in which it issues them. The 2008 poverty guidelines are the guidelines that were issued in January 2008. HHS does not try to project price changes for the current year; instead, it issues guidelines based on price changes through the most recent completed year.

Accordingly, the 2008 poverty guidelines reflect price changes only through calendar year 2007. For program administrators and others using the guidelines, it is more important to know that they are using the most recent available guidelines than to know the specific time period for the price data used in calculating those guidelines.

Because of these disparate but reasonable labeling practices, the Census Bureau poverty thresholds for 2007 and the 2008 HHS poverty guidelines both reflect price changes through calendar year 2007. So, despite the labels, the 2008 poverty guidelines are not one year more up-to-date than the poverty thresholds for 2007 but are approximately equal to the 2007 thresholds. For instance, the 2007 threshold for a four-person family is $20,650, whereas the 2008 guideline for a four-person family is $21,203.

Note: This description is based in part upon explanations by Gordon M. Fisher, a program analyst in the Office of the Assistant Secretary for Planning and Evaluation in the Department of Health and Human Services, who has been responsible since 1982 for preparing the annual update of the poverty guidelines. Guideline values were updated in January 2008. The 2007 poverty thresholds were updated in August 2008.

Edited March 1, 2009 by rebeccajo