Tough Situation...Need Advice

[JackInTheBox 0]

I have looked everywhere and have read everything but still can't even come up with a clear answer on how to apply. Government websites are useless. They all refer to each other.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/A4eng.pdf

refers to stategov......nothing tells me how she can apply or what form to use!???

As has been suggested and suggested and suggested before... CALL THE CONSULATE

Sorry but how do I get ahold of a "consulate"? I call the Manila embassy numerous times and got ahold of someone...they gave me another number to receive a packet. Who can I call for advice? What number and how do I talk to a human?

The Embassy is the diplomatic mission to a country.... the Consulate is a function (department) which can be housed within the Embassy compound or could be separate, that handles these services

U.S. Embassy, Manila Tel: 63-2-301-2000 ext. 2246/2567 for Special Consular Services, ext. 2555/2532 for Passport and Citizenship services

That is who we talked to. They said they would send us a list of requirements that we need. I looked them up.

Our biggest issue and what we will need help with is securing the documents to prove her citizenship. Below are the requirements:

Supporting Documents for Adjudication of U.S. Citizenship

All supporting documents presented with the application must be either original, or copies certified by the issuing authority and bearing the official seal and signature. Photocopies of documents certified by a Notary Public are not acceptable. An official written translation is required for any documents issued in languages other than English.

1. Birth certificate of the applicant.

Certified true copy of the applicant's birth certificate issued by the competent authority (National Statistics Office (NSO)). The certificate must bear the official seal and signature of the issuing authority. An Extract of Birth or hospital record is not acceptable.

2. Evidence of parent's U.S. citizenship Submit any of the following :

* Certified true copy of U.S. birth certificate with original seal of the vital records office

* U.S. passport

* Certificate of Naturalization or Citizenship

* Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certification of Birth Abroad

3. Marriage certificate. Certified true copy of the parents' marriage certificate bearing the official seal of the competent authority (from NSO if married in the Philippines).

4. Evidence of termination of previous marriages.

Documentary evidence of termination of previous marriages (e.g. divorce decree, death certificate, etc.) for previously married parents.

5. U.S. citizen parent's physical presence in United States.

Documentary evidence of the U.S. citizen parent's physical presence in United States prior to the applicant's birth, including periods outside the United States while serving the U.S. military forces or U.S. government agencies (if applicable). Documentary proof may consist of old/current passports, military record (statement of service/history of assignments), employment record (leave and earning statement w/W-2 form), school record, etc.

6. Evidence of the applicant's identity.

Currently valid identity document(s) bearing your name, signature and physical description or photograph (e.g. passport, driver's license etc). If you cannot present an ID, a witness who is a U.S. citizen or permanent resident alien of the United States and has known you for at least 2 years is required to attest to your identity.

7. Evidence of parentage.

If the applicant was born out of wedlock to a U.S. citizen father, the father must submit an affidavit containing the following information: acknowledgement of paternity of the child, agreement to provide financial support to the child until the child reaches the age of 18, and the father’s whereabouts/location, during the approximate time of conception of the child. Other credible evidence of parentage may be required, especially in cases where the only U.S. citizen parent is unavailable or deceased at the time of application. Certain applicants in these cases are also required to comply with certain legitimation laws.

8. Proof of parents' physical presence in the same location during the approximate time of the child's conception.

* Old or current passports with entry/exit stamps

* Military orders, etc.

The problems are number 2, 5, and 8....mainly number 5.

My fiance has not been able to reach her mother and we need evidence. Her mother's dad was in the military and stationed in the Philippines so even though her mother lived overseas she was technically in the US. (She needed to be in the USA 5 years 2 of those after the age of 14)

How do we prove this though?

How do we get her school records, her mom's dad's military records, her mom's US birth certificate etc? These are the issues. Even if she does end up getting a hold of her mom one day her mom may not even help her or try to extort money from us. How can we get these records without the mother's help? Where would we even get them from in the first place?

So as you see....the K-1 might actually be quicker and the only possible route because we don't even know where to begin with collecting evidence.

[payxibka 10,045]

So as you see....the K-1 might actually be quicker and the only possible route because we don't even know where to begin with collecting evidence.

I do not know what else to tell you other than it is not about what is easier...

[JackInTheBox 0]

So as you see....the K-1 might actually be quicker and the only possible route because we don't even know where to begin with collecting evidence.

I do not know what else to tell you other than it is not about what is easier...

Does anyone know how she could get military records, school, records, her mothers BC (without the mother's help)???

[Bbdong n Bbday 0]

So as you see....the K-1 might actually be quicker and the only possible route because we don't even know where to begin with collecting evidence.

I do not know what else to tell you other than it is not about what is easier...

Does anyone know how she could get military records, school, records, her mothers BC (without the mother's help)???

Yes, you can order a copy of your parents birth certificate since you are an immediate family member. Check this Vital Check.com

Best advice, get a good attorney, can't tell you who though, best ones are in Calif probably, like Girfinkl. Probably expensive, just bite the bullet, but the others are right, it's not about what's fastest, it's about doing what will keep her out of trouble.

We all know how you feel, time spent waiting is like torture if you look at it like that. Best of luck

[MMW 2]

you are a USC call the Embassy and ask then to connect you to the consulate directly! They cannot deny you as a USC to speak to a US Consulate. Be assertive!!! I gave you the number for US citizen services they are the ones at the embassy to connect you with a consulate don't take no for an answer. It is your right as a USC. The best course of action for her in the long run is to get her citizenship birth right. It May be a lot of work but it will give her her rights immediately. Once the documents are provided she will get a SS number and US passport like any other citizen living abroad and can come to the states as a US citizen.

[JackInTheBox 0]

So as you see....the K-1 might actually be quicker and the only possible route because we don't even know where to begin with collecting evidence.

I do not know what else to tell you other than it is not about what is easier...

Does anyone know how she could get military records, school, records, her mothers BC (without the mother's help)???

Yes, you can order a copy of your parents birth certificate since you are an immediate family member. Check this Vital Check.com

Best advice, get a good attorney, can't tell you who though, best ones are in Calif probably, like Girfinkl. Probably expensive, just bite the bullet, but the others are right, it's not about what's fastest, it's about doing what will keep her out of trouble.

We all know how you feel, time spent waiting is like torture if you look at it like that. Best of luck

Will they send it to the Philippines? Her mom was born on a Naval base over there.

[JackInTheBox 0]

you are a USC call the Embassy and ask then to connect you to the consulate directly! They cannot deny you as a USC to speak to a US Consulate. Be assertive!!! I gave you the number for US citizen services they are the ones at the embassy to connect you with a consulate don't take no for an answer. It is your right as a USC. The best course of action for her in the long run is to get her citizenship birth right. It May be a lot of work but it will give her her rights immediately. Once the documents are provided she will get a SS number and US passport like any other citizen living abroad and can come to the states as a US citizen.

I will call again.

The toughest part will be getting her mother's school records. We don't even know where she went to HS or elementary. Her father was stationed at Subic Bay