Ban on guns even closer

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

... the puerto rican drug trafficking controlled areas in the south eastern part of the state? how naive.

I can't believe I missed that little gem

[justashooter 430]

PD, don't go to that part of PA the local hillbillies might try to rape you.

I'll go as far west as Allentown and can't stand it anymore. What a bunch of weirdos out there.

so you're saying you prefer filthadelphia and the puerto rican drug trafficking controlled areas in the south eastern part of the state? how naive. actually, the I-83 corridor between harrisburg and baltimore is quite urbane.

The only part of PA I actually like is Bucks county. Although I'd probably live in Northampton if my wife didn't work or hate long drives to work

bucks is overrated, and overpriced. reading, allentown, bethlehem, columbia, they are full of ricans who run the trade, and york isn't much better. i ride motorbike thru york on the way home from work, and twice had hoods on queen street hassle me while stopped at a red light. i started wearing a SIG P226 openly in a duty holster, no worries.

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

For some taking away their guns is like taking away their wives...

I don't have a gun, I've never needed a gun (not even when I used to live in MX), and I hope I never need one.

I do agree with the fact that there has to be more control, but at the same time Mexico's problems aren't the result of guns coming from the US but OTHER factors, and I don't think it'll make a big difference. If they cannot get them from the US, they'll end up buying them from other sources.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

bucks is overrated, and overpriced.

Totally disagree. Bucks is well worth the price.

[Kevin and 10]

Over the weekend I saw more people buy handguns, AR's, and AK's at a local gunshow than I have ever seen.

Sidenote- Someone discharged a handgun during the show, it was a LEO.

[justashooter 430]

Over the weekend I saw more people buy handguns, AR's, and AK's at a local gunshow than I have ever seen.

Sidenote- Someone discharged a handgun during the show, it was a LEO.

why is it always the dufus cops causing trouble at funshows?

3 years ago i was in a big funshow in harrisburg and walking down an aisle that was not busy and wasn't really well lit when someone to my right yelled "hey you". as i turned he fished a gun from a type of concealment holster that was hidden in the waistband of his pants and pointed it at me and my son. my hand went to my carry piece and started to draw before i realised, in the dim light, that his gun was pale blue in color (training piece - inert).

i chewed the guy out, telling him he was lucky he didn't get shot. he gave me a raft, yelling that he was a police training officer selling concealment holsters etc, etc. i asked if he had jurisdiction in the area, and when he admitted he did not, i went to a fellow i know that did, across the aisle and down a few tables, and asked him to either arrest the jerk, or teach him manners.

the guy is lucky he's not dead.

[Ban Hammer 13,333]

For some taking away their guns is like taking away their wives...

I don't have a gun, I've never needed a gun (not even when I used to live in MX), and I hope I never need one.

I do agree with the fact that there has to be more control, but at the same time Mexico's problems aren't the result of guns coming from the US but OTHER factors, and I don't think it'll make a big difference. If they cannot get them from the US, they'll end up buying them from other sources.

quite true. my question is why does mexico have such severe restrictions on ownership given the drug gang problems there? why not relax rules that keep firearms out of the hands of the law abiding so they can defend themselves? currently, about the only ones well armed are the drug gangs, and even the police are outgunned.

[rebeccajo 14]

Over the weekend I saw more people buy handguns, AR's, and AK's at a local gunshow than I have ever seen.

Sidenote- Someone discharged a handgun during the show, it was a LEO.

why is it always the dufus cops causing trouble at funshows?

3 years ago i was in a big funshow in harrisburg and walking down an aisle that was not busy and wasn't really well lit when someone to my right yelled "hey you". as i turned he fished a gun from a type of concealment holster that was hidden in the waistband of his pants and pointed it at me and my son. my hand went to my carry piece and started to draw before i realised, in the dim light, that his gun was pale blue in color (training piece - inert).

i chewed the guy out, telling him he was lucky he didn't get shot. he gave me a raft, yelling that he was a police training officer selling concealment holsters etc, etc. i asked if he had jurisdiction in the area, and when he admitted he did not, i went to a fellow i know that did, across the aisle and down a few tables, and asked him to either arrest the jerk, or teach him manners.

the guy is lucky he's not dead.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Hmmm. Can you say melodrama? I know you can...

It does seem to me the very definition of civilized behaviour to be a hair trigger and one cup of coffee away from blowing people away.

Clearly a very different world.

[HAL 9000 96]

For some taking away their guns is like taking away their wives...

I don't have a gun, I've never needed a gun (not even when I used to live in MX), and I hope I never need one.

I do agree with the fact that there has to be more control, but at the same time Mexico's problems aren't the result of guns coming from the US but OTHER factors, and I don't think it'll make a big difference. If they cannot get them from the US, they'll end up buying them from other sources.

quite true. my question is why does mexico have such severe restrictions on ownership given the drug gang problems there? why not relax rules that keep firearms out of the hands of the law abiding so they can defend themselves? currently, about the only ones well armed are the drug gangs, and even the police are outgunned.

Likely though the demand to get the product across the border to consumers is quite high enough to find enough ways to laugh at the law of the land.

[Ban Hammer 13,333]

For some taking away their guns is like taking away their wives...

I don't have a gun, I've never needed a gun (not even when I used to live in MX), and I hope I never need one.

I do agree with the fact that there has to be more control, but at the same time Mexico's problems aren't the result of guns coming from the US but OTHER factors, and I don't think it'll make a big difference. If they cannot get them from the US, they'll end up buying them from other sources.

quite true. my question is why does mexico have such severe restrictions on ownership given the drug gang problems there? why not relax rules that keep firearms out of the hands of the law abiding so they can defend themselves? currently, about the only ones well armed are the drug gangs, and even the police are outgunned.

Likely though the demand to get the product across the border to consumers is quite high enough to find enough ways to laugh at the law of the land.

which is a roundabout way of saying the criminals don't care, which we knew already. still does not address my question regarding the law abiding being able to arm themselves legally.

[HAL 9000 96]

Modern societies tend to not be vigilante cultures. Therein should lie part of the answer.

Anyway I'm off.

[Ban Hammer 13,333]

Modern societies tend to not be vigilante cultures. Therein should lie part of the answer.

Anyway I'm off.

yet letting a bunch of hoodlums run the country isn't what i'd call a modern society. to me, it sounds like the dark ages.

Edited February 26, 2009 by charles!

[justashooter 430]

Modern societies tend to not be vigilante cultures. Therein should lie part of the answer.

Anyway I'm off.

how interesting to note that there are 300 million privately held guns in the US today (1 for each person), and that in the "wild west" days, the number was estimated to be about 1 for 8 persons. perhaps it's just market economics and the relative price of a gun compared to the average annual salary decreasing due to modern manufacturing methods. or perhaps, modern society has somehow found a way to have increased gun ownership with decreased vigilantism. can't remember the last time i was at a lynching, or dragged a low down no good cattle rustler from the sherrif's jail and strung him up.

postulate.

[mkg265 2]

Kinda off topic...

I'm was an avid bow hunter before I left for college and still hunt in Albania and when back in Georgia. Myself, I never understood the charm of a gun. Too simple, yet too many parts. Some people still like hunting with rifles (my father for one) but I have never known a need or a use for an assault rifle in modern American society. What do people use them for? (If you are hunting deer with an AK-47, that's not "hunting")