Denied in Bangkok

[daboyz 36]

My wife was denied because I owe the IRS money. I have been paying them $400 a month on a payment plan since last August. She got a form 221g. They checked "other" and put this in there "Information related to IRS lien against the petitioner"

They also checked the box "Evidence of your relationship with petitioner" Having hard time figuring out why that is an issue. I sent everything. Phone bills, bills for both of us a the same address, copies of all my passport pages showing that I obviously lived in Thailand, photos etc. etc.

Seems like the IRS thing it what is killing me here.

Any ideas?

[YuAndDan 153]

Note this post is in the wrong forum, the "K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures General Discussion" forum has to do with filing of an I-129F for a fiancee visa.

Moving this to Embassy/Consulate forum.

[Old Dominion 26]

Does the $400 per month put you below the poverty level? If so, then when it's paid off, apply again. If not, find some way to remove the lien. The IRS files a lien only after the taxpayer fails to make arrangements to pay off the debt, so it is kind of an extreme measure. That's another factor in this situation.

As to the other reason, failure to prove the relationship, maybe you could provide sworn affidavits from friends/relatives who can verify that the marriage is real. I assume you already provided the marriage certificate.

[cjgator 2]

Big sorry, brother. I would offer a few choice comments about the IRS, but there may be agents reading these posts, for all I know. Best wishes man, I hope you all can find an avenue to get this finished successfully.

CJ-G

My wife was denied because I owe the IRS money. I have been paying them $400 a month on a payment plan since last August. She got a form 221g. They checked "other" and put this in there "Information related to IRS lien against the petitioner"

They also checked the box "Evidence of your relationship with petitioner" Having hard time figuring out why that is an issue. I sent everything. Phone bills, bills for both of us a the same address, copies of all my passport pages showing that I obviously lived in Thailand, photos etc. etc.

Seems like the IRS thing it what is killing me here.

Any ideas?

[Minya's wife 24]

Did you provide details on the debt/payment plan you have for your IRS debt? The way I'm reading it is that they're wanting more detail, re. the IRS lean, probably to see how this affects your income to see if you're still above the poverty level as required.

-P

Big sorry, brother. I would offer a few choice comments about the IRS, but there may be agents reading these posts, for all I know. Best wishes man, I hope you all can find an avenue to get this finished successfully.

CJ-G

paranoid much? why would IRS agents be trolling a family immigration forum to catch people making 'choice comments' against them?

-P

[geezer 1]

My wife was denied because I owe the IRS money. I have been paying them $400 a month on a payment plan since last August. She got a form 221g. They checked "other" and put this in there "Information related to IRS lien against the petitioner"

They also checked the box "Evidence of your relationship with petitioner" Having hard time figuring out why that is an issue. I sent everything. Phone bills, bills for both of us a the same address, copies of all my passport pages showing that I obviously lived in Thailand, photos etc. etc.

Seems like the IRS thing it what is killing me here.

Any ideas?

How did they find out you owed the IRS? Did you file taxes for the last 3 years and indicated you had filed on the I-864? Was you income 125% or more above the poverty line?

My understanding is as long as your income is above the 125% threshold and you have filed your returns for the previous 3 tax years a lein would not be a basis for a denial.

[rebeccajo 14]

221(g) does not necessarily mean a denial.

Are they seeking more information? If so what did they ask for?

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

Big sorry, brother. I would offer a few choice comments about the IRS, but there may be agents reading these posts, for all I know. Best wishes man, I hope you all can find an avenue to get this finished successfully.

CJ-G

paranoid much? why would IRS agents be trolling a family immigration forum to catch people making 'choice comments' against them?

-P

maybe because of this?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=179815

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

My wife was denied because I owe the IRS money. I have been paying them $400 a month on a payment plan since last August. She got a form 221g. They checked "other" and put this in there "Information related to IRS lien against the petitioner"

They also checked the box "Evidence of your relationship with petitioner" Having hard time figuring out why that is an issue. I sent everything. Phone bills, bills for both of us a the same address, copies of all my passport pages showing that I obviously lived in Thailand, photos etc. etc.

Seems like the IRS thing it what is killing me here.

Any ideas?

I am very sorry to hear this. I know of TWO K-1s approved very recently (not from Thailand) where the petitioners have ongoing payments to the IRS. I do not understand, if you are paying into an approved payment arrangement, what's the problem? I have done this at various times in my career and I never considered it to be a problem, they agree to the terms and so do you, then you pay. I don't get it. Look, I don't feel comfortable giving out any names, but I will message the ones I know and they can send you a message if they want. This sounds preposterous to me.

[cjgator 2]

Good lord, woman, take a chill pill. I know daboyz, he and I have been talking off and on for months, and we often joke with each other. Just trying to lift the guys spirit's some.

Maybe you should spend some time away from the computer and stop trying to read so much into the words of people you don't know.

C

Did you provide details on the debt/payment plan you have for your IRS debt? The way I'm reading it is that they're wanting more detail, re. the IRS lean, probably to see how this affects your income to see if you're still above the poverty level as required.

-P

Big sorry, brother. I would offer a few choice comments about the IRS, but there may be agents reading these posts, for all I know. Best wishes man, I hope you all can find an avenue to get this finished successfully.

CJ-G

paranoid much? why would IRS agents be trolling a family immigration forum to catch people making 'choice comments' against them?

-P

[Brad and Vika 129]

If it is in fact a denial, have a lawyer (a tax lawyer, not an immigration lawyer) file an offer in compromise to settle the IRS bill. The petition and denial should be evidence enough of circumstances warranting a compromise.

Edited February 24, 2009 by Brad and Vika

[daboyz 36]

So this is what they sent me:

Dear Mr. Scott

During the interview, the applicant submitted only 5 photos, some money

transfers, 2 cards. Your 2007 income is above the poverty guidelines,

but the consular officer has noted an IRS lien of 11K from JUN 2008,

which would bring the income to below poverty guidelines. Thus, in

order to process the case, the applicant needs to submit more

substantial evidence of relationship and information about the lien.

Regards,

Correspondence Unit

So I sent my wife the following:

A letter explaining the tax issue.

Copies of the statement I get from the IRS every month showing that I am paying them.

2008 tax return showing over $50k

W-2s and 1099s from 2008.

More phone records.

My last pay stub.

Wire transfer receipts.

So I am hoping this will do the trick.

[Brad and Vika 129]

Looks like you've got it covered. Keep my suggestion above in mind if your additional information proves insufficient.

Cheers!

[rebeccajo 14]

I would try to gather more evidence about the relationship - anything and everything I could get my hands on. Anything you may have done to accomodate her once she is here, any evidence of leases you may have had for your time over there - anything at all.

It sounds like you have addressed the tax issue. Don't let this fall down because of questions of the bonafides.

What is the anecdotal evidence regarding interviews in Bangkok wherein the US petitioner attends? Do you need to get on a plane?

[Minya's wife 24]

Good lord, woman, take a chill pill. I know daboyz, he and I have been talking off and on for months, and we often joke with each other. Just trying to lift the guys spirit's some.

Maybe you should spend some time away from the computer and stop trying to read so much into the words of people you don't know.

C

Did you provide details on the debt/payment plan you have for your IRS debt? The way I'm reading it is that they're wanting more detail, re. the IRS lean, probably to see how this affects your income to see if you're still above the poverty level as required.

-P

Big sorry, brother. I would offer a few choice comments about the IRS, but there may be agents reading these posts, for all I know. Best wishes man, I hope you all can find an avenue to get this finished successfully.

CJ-G

paranoid much? why would IRS agents be trolling a family immigration forum to catch people making 'choice comments' against them?

-P

If you were joking with the OP, perhaps you should have indicated that in your post or PM'd the OP directly? These threads are here for posterity, long after daboys has cleared up his issue. If someone has this happen to them in the future, and comes across your 'joking' remark, without any knowledge that it was jokingly meant, they may be alarmed for no reason.

Maybe you should think before posting, and think of the stated purpose of VJ, "to educate and provide general information regarding family and marriage based immigration (K1, K3, IR-1 Visas, DCF, etc) for a spouse, fiance, parent(s) or other close relatives to reunite and bring together families."

-P