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There is only 1 thing I care about in regards to the present economy; in 2007 and 2008 my company had 250 million in sales in both years. So far for 2009 we have only sold 97 thousand. That is all there is to discuss, folks that is the bottom line. Corporate sales and jobs.

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Humans are not perfect. When they (and if they do) happen... then so be it. Like I said... look around. What is today is a result of yesterday... and unless you are an ardent follower of the logic of insanity (to not bait particular forum lunatics), the past usually leads to the present. :lol:

the more things change, the more they stay the same........... :whistle:

that's pretty much why i never bought into the hope and change mantra.

:secret: And neither did most of the people that were labeled in that camp by those looking for cheap shots to take. ;)

I think given the way things are (meaning, today, as a result of things that happened yesterday) you first have to right yourself before making changes that require the nation be a little better off to start, maintain, and complete. Of course... you not included... you got some folks that have allowed soreloseritis get the best of what little reasoning skills they have. (meaning, that of some of the folks that disagree with the way things are being handled... their ridiculous sense of illogic and blatant disregard for reality impedes any sense of constructive contribution to society.)

so any dissent is "soreloseritis" now. another interesting tidbit to arise, one that surely was hidden during all the gwb complaints.

not any more valid now than it would have been then, i'm sure. so try again.

didn't say that either, so quit looking for antagonism where there is not. :P

of course... dissent is normal in a democracy... yet the dissenters have to evaluate why they were replaced in the Executive and in the Legislative. You don't really need a doctorate in poli sci for that one.

let me underline what I did say, (with explanations in parenthesis)

Time to think heuristically, if your AI circuits will allow that. No need just to think in binary terms.

A HAL system always thinks in more than absolutes. Hence our series acronym.

Then again... heuristic thinking is precisely what is reflected above. Voters elected GWB... and they learned. We will see what voters learn after BHO has had enough time to have enacted his policies of government instead of going golfing during times of national crisis.

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Then again... heuristic thinking is precisely what is reflected above. Voters elected GWB... and they learned. We will see what voters learn after BHO has had enough time to have enacted his policies of government instead of going golfing during times of national crisis.

what national crisis was he golfing in?

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Then again... heuristic thinking is precisely what is reflected above. Voters elected GWB... and they learned. We will see what voters learn after BHO has had enough time to have enacted his policies of government instead of going golfing during times of national crisis.

what national crisis was he golfing in?

so according to some nutjobs... GWB actually corrected the failures of the Clinton years... and GWB spent quite a while on vacation. For example...

Vacationing Bush Poised to Set a Record

With Long Sojourn at Ranch, President on His Way to Surpassing Reagan's Total

By Jim VandeHei and Peter BakerWashington Post Staff Writers

Wednesday, August 3, 2005; Page A04

WACO, Tex., Aug. 2 -- President Bush is getting the kind of break most Americans can only dream of -- nearly five weeks away from the office, loaded with vacation time.

The president departed Tuesday for his longest stretch yet away from the White House, arriving at his Crawford ranch in the evening to clear brush, visit with family and friends, and tend to some outside-the-Beltway politics. By historical standards, it is the longest presidential retreat in at least 36 years.

The August getaway is Bush's 49th trip to his cherished ranch since taking office and Tuesday was the 319th day that Bush has spent, entirely or partially, in Crawford -- roughly 20 percent of his presidency to date, according to Mark Knoller, a CBS Radio reporter known for keeping better records of the president's travel than the White House itself. Weekends and holidays at Camp David or at his parents' compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, bump up the proportion of Bush's time away from Washington even further.

Bush's long vacations are more than a curiosity: They play into diametrically opposite arguments about this leadership style. To critics and late-night comics, they symbolize a lackadaisical approach to the world's most important day job, an impression bolstered by Bush's periodic two-hour midday exercise sessions and his disinclination to work nights or weekends. The more vociferous among Bush's foes have noted that he spent a month at the ranch shortly before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, when critics assert he should have been more attentive to warning signs.

To Bush and his advisers, that criticism fundamentally misunderstands his Texas sojourns. Those who think he does not remain in command, aides say, do not understand the modern presidency or Bush's own work habits. At the ranch, White House officials say, Bush continues to receive daily national security briefings, sign documents, hold teleconferences with aides and military commanders, and even meet with foreign leaders. And from the president's point of view, the long Texas stints are the best way to clear his mind and reconnect with everyday America.

"I'm looking forward to getting down there and just kind of settling in," Bush told reporters from Texas newspapers during a roundtable interview at the White House on Monday. "I'll be doing a lot of work. On the other hand, I'll also be kind of making sure my Texas roots run deep."

"Spending time outside of Washington always gives the president a fresh perspective of what's on the minds of the American people," White House press secretary Scott McClellan told reporters Friday. "It's a time, really, for him to shed the coat and tie and meet with folks out in the heartland and hear what's on their minds."

Just as Bush has made these August trips a regular feature of his presidency, so, too, have Democrats made a tradition of needling him about them. This year, opposition politicians are tying his departure from Washington to the CIA leak case that has swept up his top adviser, Karl Rove.

"The White House stonewalling operation is moving to Crawford for the dog days of summer, but they can't hide from the legitimate questions dogging the president and his refusal to keep his promise to fire Karl Rove," said Josh Earnest, a spokesman for the Democratic National Committee.

Presidents have often sought refuge from the pressures of Washington and from life in the White House, which Harry S. Truman called the crown jewel of the American prison system. Richard M. Nixon favored Key Biscayne, Fla. Bush's father preferred Maine. Bill Clinton, lacking a home of his own, borrowed a house on Martha's Vineyard, except for two years when political adviser ####### Morris nudged him into going to Jackson, Wyo., before his reelection because it polled better.

Until now, probably no modern president was a more famous vacationer than Ronald Reagan, who loved spending time at his ranch in Santa Barbara, Calif. According to an Associated Press count, Reagan spent all or part of 335 days in Santa Barbara over his eight-year presidency -- a total that Bush will surpass this month in Crawford with 3 1/2 years left in his second term.

"The Oval Office is wherever the president of the United States is," said Kenneth M. Duberstein, who was Reagan's last White House chief of staff. "With the communications being what they are, the president can communicate instantly with whomever he wants anywhere in the world."

Bush will not return to the White House until around Labor Day, but his staff has peppered his schedule with events to dispel any impression that he is not on duty. He will visit at least seven states, mostly with quick day trips, including New Mexico, where he plans to sign energy legislation into law. He gets off to a quick start this week, with a speech Wednesday in nearby Grapevine, Tex., then he plays host to President Alvaro Uribe of Colombia at the ranch Thursday. His schedule is clear Friday through Sunday.

At some point, Bush told reporters Monday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld will visit for consultations. "I have a busy couple of weeks down there," Bush said.

But he will make time for fun, or at least his idea of it. Bush rarely takes the type of vacation one would consider exotic -- or, to some, even appealing. His notion of relaxation is chopping cedar on his ranch or mountain biking through rough terrain, all in 100-degree-plus temperatures in dusty Texas where crickets are known to roast on the summer pavement. He seems to relish the idea of exposing aides and reporters to the hothouse environment.

"I just checked in with the house -- it's about 100 degrees," he told reporters Monday. "But no matter how hot it gets, I enjoy spending time in Texas."

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There is only 1 thing I care about in regards to the present economy; in 2007 and 2008 my company had 250 million in sales in both years. So far for 2009 we have only sold 97 thousand. That is all there is to discuss, folks that is the bottom line. Corporate sales and jobs.

Holy mackerel! :o Man, I'm sorry you are going through that. :(

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so what national crisis was he golfing in?

and btw, the military gets, as you well know, 30 days off a year. nearly 5 weeks, while it may sound great, isn't exactly 5 weeks away from the office. the office follows him.

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There is only 1 thing I care about in regards to the present economy; in 2007 and 2008 my company had 250 million in sales in both years. So far for 2009 we have only sold 97 thousand. That is all there is to discuss, folks that is the bottom line. Corporate sales and jobs.

Holy mackerel! :o Man, I'm sorry you are going through that. :(

Yeah! being SORRY really helps pay the bills. Im so emotional right now! We got a chimpanzee for a president Im a hopin fo some change! maybe we can get a little bail-out money for the banana farmers.............WOOT!

"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."- Ayn Rand

“Your freedom to be you includes my freedom to be free from you.”

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There is only 1 thing I care about in regards to the present economy; in 2007 and 2008 my company had 250 million in sales in both years. So far for 2009 we have only sold 97 thousand. That is all there is to discuss, folks that is the bottom line. Corporate sales and jobs.

Holy mackerel! :o Man, I'm sorry you are going through that. :(

Yeah! being SORRY really helps pay the bills. Im so emotional right now! We got a chimpanzee for a president Im a hopin fo some change! maybe we can get a little bail-out money for the banana farmers.............WOOT!

Actually the chimpanzee president just left office a month ago. The current one has a brain and can speak without tripping over his tongue.

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R.I.P Spooky 2004-2015

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There is only 1 thing I care about in regards to the present economy; in 2007 and 2008 my company had 250 million in sales in both years. So far for 2009 we have only sold 97 thousand. That is all there is to discuss, folks that is the bottom line. Corporate sales and jobs.

Holy mackerel! :o Man, I'm sorry you are going through that. :(

Yeah! being SORRY really helps pay the bills. Im so emotional right now! We got a chimpanzee for a president Im a hopin fo some change! maybe we can get a little bail-out money for the banana farmers.............WOOT!

Actually the chimpanzee president just left office a month ago. The current one has a brain and can speak without tripping over his tongue.

as long as the teleprompter works.

* ~ * Charles * ~ *
 

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

 

USE THE REPORT BUTTON INSTEAD OF MESSAGING A MODERATOR!

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There is only 1 thing I care about in regards to the present economy; in 2007 and 2008 my company had 250 million in sales in both years. So far for 2009 we have only sold 97 thousand. That is all there is to discuss, folks that is the bottom line. Corporate sales and jobs.

Holy mackerel! :o Man, I'm sorry you are going through that. :(

Yeah! being SORRY really helps pay the bills. Im so emotional right now! We got a chimpanzee for a president Im a hopin fo some change! maybe we can get a little bail-out money for the banana farmers.............WOOT!

Actually the chimpanzee president just left office a month ago. The current one has a brain and can speak without tripping over his tongue.

I got it, as long as he speaks well its all good?

Hes takin your money and your still lovin him? Hold my hand lets go for a fvckin ride........................................FOOL!

"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."- Ayn Rand

“Your freedom to be you includes my freedom to be free from you.”

― Andrew Wilkow

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There is only 1 thing I care about in regards to the present economy; in 2007 and 2008 my company had 250 million in sales in both years. So far for 2009 we have only sold 97 thousand. That is all there is to discuss, folks that is the bottom line. Corporate sales and jobs.

Holy mackerel! :o Man, I'm sorry you are going through that. :(

Yeah! being SORRY really helps pay the bills. Im so emotional right now! We got a chimpanzee for a president Im a hopin fo some change! maybe we can get a little bail-out money for the banana farmers.............WOOT!

Actually the chimpanzee president just left office a month ago. The current one has a brain and can speak without tripping over his tongue.

I got it, as long as he speaks well its all good?

Hes takin your money and your still lovin him? Hold my hand lets go for a fvckin ride........................................FOOL!

Fool? How much did W cut your takes? Why is the county in such a mess? Obama? I guess if you're extremely wealthy then Bush was a good president. Unfortunately, I don't fall into that category. And don't forget, negative thoughts will hold you back.

R.I.P Spooky 2004-2015

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There is only 1 thing I care about in regards to the present economy; in 2007 and 2008 my company had 250 million in sales in both years. So far for 2009 we have only sold 97 thousand. That is all there is to discuss, folks that is the bottom line. Corporate sales and jobs.

Holy mackerel! :o Man, I'm sorry you are going through that. :(

Yeah! being SORRY really helps pay the bills. Im so emotional right now! We got a chimpanzee for a president Im a hopin fo some change! maybe we can get a little bail-out money for the banana farmers.............WOOT!

Actually the chimpanzee president just left office a month ago. The current one has a brain and can speak without tripping over his tongue.

I got it, as long as he speaks well its all good?

Hes takin your money and your still lovin him? Hold my hand lets go for a fvckin ride........................................FOOL!

Fool? How much did W cut your takes? Why is the county in such a mess? Obama? I guess if you're extremely wealthy then Bush was a good president. Unfortunately, I don't fall into that category. And don't forget, negative thoughts will hold you back.

Cut my takes? Why is the COUNTY.........#######? Keep on votin.....................FOOL! Go have a couple kids youll get mo fvckin money!

"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."- Ayn Rand

“Your freedom to be you includes my freedom to be free from you.”

― Andrew Wilkow

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There is only 1 thing I care about in regards to the present economy; in 2007 and 2008 my company had 250 million in sales in both years. So far for 2009 we have only sold 97 thousand. That is all there is to discuss, folks that is the bottom line. Corporate sales and jobs.

Holy mackerel! :o Man, I'm sorry you are going through that. :(

Yeah! being SORRY really helps pay the bills. Im so emotional right now! We got a chimpanzee for a president Im a hopin fo some change! maybe we can get a little bail-out money for the banana farmers.............WOOT!

Actually the chimpanzee president just left office a month ago. The current one has a brain and can speak without tripping over his tongue.

I got it, as long as he speaks well its all good?

Hes takin your money and your still lovin him? Hold my hand lets go for a fvckin ride........................................FOOL!

Fool? How much did W cut your takes? Why is the county in such a mess? Obama? I guess if you're extremely wealthy then Bush was a good president. Unfortunately, I don't fall into that category. And don't forget, negative thoughts will hold you back.

Cut my takes? Why is the COUNTY.........#######? Keep on votin.....................FOOL! Go have a couple kids youll get mo fvckin money!

I was trying to spell like you.

R.I.P Spooky 2004-2015

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