ПМЖ stamp in external passport?

[chili74 0]

I am curious to know how common it is among people on VJ to have this stamp, meaning you are no longer listed in Russia as living there ("registratsiya," or what used to be called "propiska") and you don't have any need for your internal passport anymore.

[Satellite 1]

No but she did get a "листок убытья" because the consulate said bring that from the local registration office or the stamp. They refused to give the stamp, but had no problems giving the letter once she unregistered in Russia.

[chili74 0]

Ah Satellite- another wrinkle...I am always learning new things here.

[sashitaski 3]

Do you need to de-register? Where do you do that? And how would they know you're moving away permanently if you don't tell them? (I mean until the time comes for you to apply for a new passport)

[Lyuba 0]

I don't want to lose my registration in Moscow. I am still registered in my mom's apartment and there is no way I am going to give this up.

[chili74 0]

Do you need to de-register? Where do you do that? And how would they know you're moving away permanently if you don't tell them? (I mean until the time comes for you to apply for a new passport)

Hello- it is really up to the individual. That is why I asked. if you go not de-register, you may have extra headaches to keep up your internal and external passports, as I was describing on my other thread.

[Satellite 1]

If you want register at the consulate you have to take yourself local registration in Russia. No big deal for Tomsk. a much bigger deal for Moscow. People pay big money for the Moscow registration.

[slim 1,530]

I voted before I read the thread....

My wife doesn't have one of those stamps and is still listed in her home city. She's actually the owner of the apt. there so I think she's required to still be listed on propiska as a resident. (Don't quote me on squat when it comes to Russian law.)

Someday, when that little apartment sells for millions of dollars, I'll make sure there's a stamp in MY propiska as well!

[chili74 0]

Thanks everyone who replied. I have since talked one friend and he said to reconcile the zangran and internal passports in St. P took him 15 minutes one time and 5 hours the next time. So that isn't so bad!

Lyuba, have you done this procedure at OVIR or whereever (before you got US citizenship) (assuming you had the stamp in your zagran passport that says "no record has been made in internal passport of zagranpassport being issued)?

[jethro7 0]

Hello,

My wife, who is from Belarus, had a rather bizarre conversation with a staffer at the Belarussian Embassy in Washington. She wanted to know how she could get a new passport issued with her married name, as she would like to visit Minsk this summer but doesn't want any problems with customs and the fact that she still has her maiden name listed on her current Belarussian passport.

The staffer asked if she had a current "propiska" in her passport, and if she obtained a "permission to leave" stamp. From what I have read, the "permission to leave" requirement was dropped in 2007, and why in the world would she need a propiska if she's living here? Her old propiska has expired. He told her that she would have to get her passport changed in Belarus, which makes no sense to me - why can't the consulate in Washington handle it? This sounds like a dicey proposition if she's only staying for a week.

I have the feeling she got a hold of one of those bureacrat-types that enjoys being difficult and dispenses bad information at the same time, but if you can't get accurate or helpful information from the Embassy, where can you find it?

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.