juvenile charges please help!!

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I pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor battery when i was 17, which i was still a juvenile at the time. I am now 25, and today i went into the Juvenile Probation Department to ask some questions reguarding my record. This lady who works there told me i have two charges on my record, one is misdemeanor battery which i pleaded guilty, and the other one was assult with a deadly weapon but were dropped and never found guilty for it. The lady told me that the charge that i pleaded guilty to is called TRUTH, its not called Convicted because i was still a juvenile. Its only called Convicted if im an adult which is 18 and up. In the paperwork i filed for my k1 asked if i ever been convicted of a crime, i checked No. So did i do it right? is it going to be a denial for my k1? what do you think going to happen? i am so worried please help

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anyone?

[pushbrk 12,886]

I pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor battery when i was 17, which i was still a juvenile at the time. I am now 25, and today i went into the Juvenile Probation Department to ask some questions reguarding my record. This lady who works there told me i have two charges on my record, one is misdemeanor battery which i pleaded guilty, and the other one was assult with a deadly weapon but were dropped and never found guilty for it. The lady told me that the charge that i pleaded guilty to is called TRUTH, its not called Convicted because i was still a juvenile. Its only called Convicted if im an adult which is 18 and up. In the paperwork i filed for my k1 asked if i ever been convicted of a crime, i checked No. So did i do it right? is it going to be a denial for my k1? what do you think going to happen? i am so worried please help

The questions on the I-129F regarding convictions are very specific. Be sure you understand the questions and you'll be able to answer accurately. If you must answer yes, follow the instructions for providing court records.

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I pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor battery when i was 17, which i was still a juvenile at the time. I am now 25, and today i went into the Juvenile Probation Department to ask some questions reguarding my record. This lady who works there told me i have two charges on my record, one is misdemeanor battery which i pleaded guilty, and the other one was assult with a deadly weapon but were dropped and never found guilty for it. The lady told me that the charge that i pleaded guilty to is called TRUTH, its not called Convicted because i was still a juvenile. Its only called Convicted if im an adult which is 18 and up. In the paperwork i filed for my k1 asked if i ever been convicted of a crime, i checked No. So did i do it right? is it going to be a denial for my k1? what do you think going to happen? i am so worried please help

The questions on the I-129F regarding convictions are very specific. Be sure you understand the questions and you'll be able to answer accurately. If you must answer yes, follow the instructions for providing court records.

so you're saying that what the lady told me was incorrect? she works there, i'm pretty sure she wouldnt lied to me since i asked her multiple times on that same question. She keeps telling me i've never been convicted of anything, only found TRUTH on one charge. On the I-129F, it only asked if i ever been convicted of anything......so i don't know what to say now , i am confused

Edited February 21, 2009 by r0yalflush

[pushbrk 12,886]

I pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor battery when i was 17, which i was still a juvenile at the time. I am now 25, and today i went into the Juvenile Probation Department to ask some questions reguarding my record. This lady who works there told me i have two charges on my record, one is misdemeanor battery which i pleaded guilty, and the other one was assult with a deadly weapon but were dropped and never found guilty for it. The lady told me that the charge that i pleaded guilty to is called TRUTH, its not called Convicted because i was still a juvenile. Its only called Convicted if im an adult which is 18 and up. In the paperwork i filed for my k1 asked if i ever been convicted of a crime, i checked No. So did i do it right? is it going to be a denial for my k1? what do you think going to happen? i am so worried please help

The questions on the I-129F regarding convictions are very specific. Be sure you understand the questions and you'll be able to answer accurately. If you must answer yes, follow the instructions for providing court records.

so you're saying that what the lady told me was incorrect? she works there, i'm pretty sure she wouldnt lied to me since i asked her multil times on that same question. She keeps telling me i've never been convicted of anything, only found TRUTH on one charge. On the I-129F, it only asked if i ever been convicted of anything......so i don't know what to say

I said nothing about what the lady told you. Start by carefully reading what I wrote again. Then carefully read the applicable questions on the I-129F. Note that only specific categories of crimes are asked about. If you have not been convicted of any of those crimes specifically mentioned, answer no. If the correct answer is yes, then provide the records. If you don't understand the questions or parts of the questions, try to tell us what you do or don't understand, so we can help you. If we can't help you understand the questions, you'll need to consult an immigration attorney.

This is the question that may be applicable.

2. Have you ever been convicted by a court of law (civil or criminal) or court martialed by a military tribunal for any of the following crimes:

Domestic violence, sexual assault, child abuse and neglect, dating violence, elder abuse or stalking. (Please refer to page 3 of the instructions for the full definition of the term "domestic violence.)

Edited February 21, 2009 by pushbrk

[pushbrk 12,886]

I pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor battery when i was 17, which i was still a juvenile at the time. I am now 25, and today i went into the Juvenile Probation Department to ask some questions reguarding my record. This lady who works there told me i have two charges on my record, one is misdemeanor battery which i pleaded guilty, and the other one was assult with a deadly weapon but were dropped and never found guilty for it. The lady told me that the charge that i pleaded guilty to is called TRUTH, its not called Convicted because i was still a juvenile. Its only called Convicted if im an adult which is 18 and up. In the paperwork i filed for my k1 asked if i ever been convicted of a crime, i checked No. So did i do it right? is it going to be a denial for my k1? what do you think going to happen? i am so worried please help

The questions on the I-129F regarding convictions are very specific. Be sure you understand the questions and you'll be able to answer accurately. If you must answer yes, follow the instructions for providing court records.

so you're saying that what the lady told me was incorrect? she works there, i'm pretty sure she wouldnt lied to me since i asked her multil times on that same question. She keeps telling me i've never been convicted of anything, only found TRUTH on one charge. On the I-129F, it only asked if i ever been convicted of anything......so i don't know what to say

I said nothing about what the lady told you. Start by carefully reading what I wrote again. Then carefully read the applicable questions on the I-129F. Note that only specific categories of crimes are asked about. If you have not been convicted of any of those crimes specifically mentioned, answer no. If the correct answer is yes, then provide the records. If you don't understand the questions or parts of the questions, try to tell us what you do or don't understand, so we can help you. If we can't help you understand the questions, you'll need to consult an immigration attorney.

This is the question that may be applicable.

2. Have you ever been convicted by a court of law (civil or criminal) or court martialed by a military tribunal for any of the following crimes:

Domestic violence, sexual assault, child abuse and neglect, dating violence, elder abuse or stalking. (Please refer to page 3 of the instructions for the full definition of the term "domestic violence.)

Read the full definition of the term "domestic violence" to see if the simple battery charge fits the description. In this context, a plea of guilty constitutes a conviction, no matter what some local jurisdiction chooses as a label.

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I pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor battery when i was 17, which i was still a juvenile at the time. I am now 25, and today i went into the Juvenile Probation Department to ask some questions reguarding my record. This lady who works there told me i have two charges on my record, one is misdemeanor battery which i pleaded guilty, and the other one was assult with a deadly weapon but were dropped and never found guilty for it. The lady told me that the charge that i pleaded guilty to is called TRUTH, its not called Convicted because i was still a juvenile. Its only called Convicted if im an adult which is 18 and up. In the paperwork i filed for my k1 asked if i ever been convicted of a crime, i checked No. So did i do it right? is it going to be a denial for my k1? what do you think going to happen? i am so worried please help

The questions on the I-129F regarding convictions are very specific. Be sure you understand the questions and you'll be able to answer accurately. If you must answer yes, follow the instructions for providing court records.

so you're saying that what the lady told me was incorrect? she works there, i'm pretty sure she wouldnt lied to me since i asked her multil times on that same question. She keeps telling me i've never been convicted of anything, only found TRUTH on one charge. On the I-129F, it only asked if i ever been convicted of anything......so i don't know what to say

I said nothing about what the lady told you. Start by carefully reading what I wrote again. Then carefully read the applicable questions on the I-129F. Note that only specific categories of crimes are asked about. If you have not been convicted of any of those crimes specifically mentioned, answer no. If the correct answer is yes, then provide the records. If you don't understand the questions or parts of the questions, try to tell us what you do or don't understand, so we can help you. If we can't help you understand the questions, you'll need to consult an immigration attorney.

This is the question that may be applicable.

2. Have you ever been convicted by a court of law (civil or criminal) or court martialed by a military tribunal for any of the following crimes:

Domestic violence, sexual assault, child abuse and neglect, dating violence, elder abuse or stalking. (Please refer to page 3 of the instructions for the full definition of the term "domestic violence.)

Read the full definition of the term "domestic violence" to see if the simple battery charge fits the description. In this context, a plea of guilty constitutes a conviction, no matter what some local jurisdiction chooses as a label.

i guess you're right, i already checked no and sent it in. What do you think going to happen now? am i going to get an RFE on this or what? please help

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am i going to get an RFE requesting for court records or i will get a denial instead??? please help

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It would take an Ouija board to predict what you will or will not get.

As for checking "no" on a question filed with USCIS that is or should have been "yes", and it shows up, you likely won't just get a simple RFE.

From the I129F - just above where you sign your name:

you may be fined up to $10,000 or imprisoned up to five years, or both, for knowingly and willfully falsifying or concealing a material fact or using any false document in submitting this petition.

Only you know the specific details of the conviction and if your particular case is applicable to the list on the I-129F. Either way, I wish you luck. Advise any and all applicants, as has been done thousands of times on this site - NEVER lie or conceal information on applications.

Hell, even Martha Stewart was only convicted of "filing false statements" lol

am i going to get an RFE requesting for court records or i will get a denial instead??? please help

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It would take an Ouija board to predict what you will or will not get.

As for checking "no" on a question filed with USCIS that is or should have been "yes", and it shows up, you likely won't just get a simple RFE.

From the I129F - just above where you sign your name:

you may be fined up to $10,000 or imprisoned up to five years, or both, for knowingly and willfully falsifying or concealing a material fact or using any false document in submitting this petition.

Only you know the specific details of the conviction and if your particular case is applicable to the list on the I-129F. Either way, I wish you luck. Advise any and all applicants, as has been done thousands of times on this site - NEVER lie or conceal information on applications.

Hell, even Martha Stewart was only convicted of "filing false statements" lol

am i going to get an RFE requesting for court records or i will get a denial instead??? please help

actually my sister did the whole application for me. She has been through a successful process of bringing her fiance over here. I thought since she has been through it, that i wouldnt be worry. Now i came on here reading more and more about this everyday, i've realized what a mistake that was to let my sister filed it. Now i could get a denial because of her, she checked No and didn't even specifically told me all the details. God this is so stressful

[pushbrk 12,886]

I pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor battery when i was 17, which i was still a juvenile at the time. I am now 25, and today i went into the Juvenile Probation Department to ask some questions reguarding my record. This lady who works there told me i have two charges on my record, one is misdemeanor battery which i pleaded guilty, and the other one was assult with a deadly weapon but were dropped and never found guilty for it. The lady told me that the charge that i pleaded guilty to is called TRUTH, its not called Convicted because i was still a juvenile. Its only called Convicted if im an adult which is 18 and up. In the paperwork i filed for my k1 asked if i ever been convicted of a crime, i checked No. So did i do it right? is it going to be a denial for my k1? what do you think going to happen? i am so worried please help

The questions on the I-129F regarding convictions are very specific. Be sure you understand the questions and you'll be able to answer accurately. If you must answer yes, follow the instructions for providing court records.

so you're saying that what the lady told me was incorrect? she works there, i'm pretty sure she wouldnt lied to me since i asked her multil times on that same question. She keeps telling me i've never been convicted of anything, only found TRUTH on one charge. On the I-129F, it only asked if i ever been convicted of anything......so i don't know what to say

I said nothing about what the lady told you. Start by carefully reading what I wrote again. Then carefully read the applicable questions on the I-129F. Note that only specific categories of crimes are asked about. If you have not been convicted of any of those crimes specifically mentioned, answer no. If the correct answer is yes, then provide the records. If you don't understand the questions or parts of the questions, try to tell us what you do or don't understand, so we can help you. If we can't help you understand the questions, you'll need to consult an immigration attorney.

This is the question that may be applicable.

2. Have you ever been convicted by a court of law (civil or criminal) or court martialed by a military tribunal for any of the following crimes:

Domestic violence, sexual assault, child abuse and neglect, dating violence, elder abuse or stalking. (Please refer to page 3 of the instructions for the full definition of the term "domestic violence.)

Read the full definition of the term "domestic violence" to see if the simple battery charge fits the description. In this context, a plea of guilty constitutes a conviction, no matter what some local jurisdiction chooses as a label.

i guess you're right, i already checked no and sent it in. What do you think going to happen now? am i going to get an RFE on this or what? please help

I'm right about what? I've expressed no opinion about whether checking yes or no was correct. I explained what you need to do to answer that for yourself. A guilty plea is a conviction, yes but I have no idea if your simple battery conviction qualifies as domestic violence. Unless it was a family member you battered, it doesn't. So did you beat up your wife, mother, sister, brother, father or girlfriend? If not, no problem. If so, you may get an RFE.

[himher 634]

Again, from the I-129F - in case you are considering "what the lady told you" as some kind of mitigating circumstance

Answering this question is required even if your records were sealed or otherwise cleared or if anyone, including a judge, law

enforcement officer, or attorney, told you that you no longer have a record. Using a separate sheet(s) of paper, attach information

relating to the conviction(s), such as crime involved, date of conviction and sentence.

I pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor battery when i was 17, which i was still a juvenile at the time. I am now 25, and today i went into the Juvenile Probation Department to ask some questions reguarding my record. This lady who works there told me i have two charges on my record, one is misdemeanor battery which i pleaded guilty, and the other one was assult with a deadly weapon but were dropped and never found guilty for it. The lady told me that the charge that i pleaded guilty to is called TRUTH, its not called Convicted because i was still a juvenile. Its only called Convicted if im an adult which is 18 and up. In the paperwork i filed for my k1 asked if i ever been convicted of a crime, i checked No. So did i do it right? is it going to be a denial for my k1? what do you think going to happen? i am so worried please help

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I'm righ Unless it was a family member you battered, it doesn't. So did you beat up your wife, mother, sister, brother, father or girlfriend? If not, no problem. If so, you may get an RFE.

The answer is not that simple.

From the instructions:

The term "domestic violence" includes felony or misdemeanor crimes of violence committed by a current or former spouse of the victim, by a person with whom the victim shares a child in common, by a person who is cohabitating with or has cohabitated with the victim as a spouse, by a person similarly situated to a spouse of the victim under the domestic or family violence laws of the jurisdiction receiving grant monies, or by any other person against an adult or youth victim who is protected from that person's acts under the domestic or family violence laws of the jurisdiction.

[pushbrk 12,886]

I'm righ Unless it was a family member you battered, it doesn't. So did you beat up your wife, mother, sister, brother, father or girlfriend? If not, no problem. If so, you may get an RFE.

The answer is not that simple.

From the instructions:

The term "domestic violence" includes felony or misdemeanor crimes of violence committed by a current or former spouse of the victim, by a person with whom the victim shares a child in common, by a person who is cohabitating with or has cohabitated with the victim as a spouse, by a person similarly situated to a spouse of the victim under the domestic or family violence laws of the jurisdiction receiving grant monies, or by any other person against an adult or youth victim who is protected from that person's acts under the domestic or family violence laws of the jurisdiction.

Yes, I previously advised the OP to carefully read those instructions to determine whether the conviction fit. It's unclear whether he comprehended anything except that a guilty plea is a conviction. Since the petition is already filed, there's really nothing he can do now except try to determine if the answer was correct.

[rebeccajo 14]

I'm righ Unless it was a family member you battered, it doesn't. So did you beat up your wife, mother, sister, brother, father or girlfriend? If not, no problem. If so, you may get an RFE.

The answer is not that simple.

From the instructions:

The term "domestic violence" includes felony or misdemeanor crimes of violence committed by a current or former spouse of the victim, by a person with whom the victim shares a child in common, by a person who is cohabitating with or has cohabitated with the victim as a spouse, by a person similarly situated to a spouse of the victim under the domestic or family violence laws of the jurisdiction receiving grant monies, or by any other person against an adult or youth victim who is protected from that person's acts under the domestic or family violence laws of the jurisdiction.

Yes, I previously advised the OP to carefully read those instructions to determine whether the conviction fit. It's unclear whether he comprehended anything except that a guilty plea is a conviction. Since the petition is already filed, there's really nothing he can do now except try to determine if the answer was correct.

Well unless the OP (or you or I for that matter) happens to be an attorney in his state of residence, it's not likely he or we can determine whether the convictions fits the definition or not.

Admitting one does not know the exact answer is a healthy thing.

In lieu of that ability, not posting an answer in the first place is another option.