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VATICAN CITY (AP) - Pope Benedict XVI received Nancy Pelosi, one of the most prominent abortion rights politicians in America, and told her Wednesday that Catholic politicians have a duty to protect life "at all stages of its development." The U.S. House speaker, a Catholic, was the first top Democrat to meet with Benedict since the election of Barack Obama, who won a majority of the U.S. Catholic vote despite differences with the Vatican on abortion.

On his fourth day in office last month, Obama ended a ban on funds for international groups that perform abortions or provide information on the option - a sharp policy change from former President George W. Bush's Republican administration.

The Vatican's attempts to keep the Pelosi visit low-profile displayed its obvious unease with the new U.S. administration. Benedict and Bush had found common ground in opposing abortion, an issue that drew them together despite their differences over the war in Iraq.

Wednesday's meeting, in a small room off a Vatican auditorium after the pope's weekly public audience, was closed to reporters and photographers.

The Vatican also said - contrary to its usual policy when the pope meets world leaders - that it was not issuing either a photo or video of the encounter, claiming the meeting was private.

A short statement from the Vatican said the pope "briefly greeted" Pelosi and did not mention any other subject they may have discussed besides abortion.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090218/D96E8OU00.html

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good luck changin abortion laws with this administration and the probable chief justice or two Obama gets to nominate for supreme court

Emmett Fitz-Hume: I'm sorry I'm late, I had to attend the reading of a will. I had to stay till the very end, and I found out I received nothing... broke my arm.

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This Pope?

The Pope Has Lost His Magic

By Alexander Smoltczyk in Rome

The scandal surrounding Bishop Williamson has brought the honeymoon between Germans and their pope to an abrupt end. The affair has done lasting damage to Benedict's reputation and authority in his home country.

What has the pope got in common with troubled German mortgage lender Hypo Real Estate? Both managed to destroy enormous virtual capital in a matter of days. Both have triggered a loss of confidence whose impact cannot yet be estimated.

As far as the Vatican is concerned, its statement on Wednesday has drawn a line under the affair of Bishop Williamson, the Borat of schismatic ultra-reactionaries. That's another similarity with the Hypo executives. The question is when the next confidence-boosting measure will be necessary.

Pope Benedict XVI was never an anti-Semite, although he may feel a secret empathy for the traditionalists and their loyalty to the old mass (pre Vatican II), these rigid figures who operate in the purest spheres of Catholicism. Of course, the scandal is evidence of the Curia's inability to communicate. Its gesture of reconciliation with the Society of Pius X should have been attached to a rejection of any form of anti-Semitism right from the start.

In addition, the Vatican should have made clear that the lifting of the excommunications did not reinstate the bishops in their church positions, and that it was merely a preliminary step based on the church of the Second Vatican Council.

None of that happened. Neither the Curia, nor the press office nor the pope has learned the lessons of the PR disaster of Regensburg in 2006, when Benedict deeply offended the Muslim world.

In the space of a few days the Vatican has reopened the rift between the German bishops and Rome. Not since the dispute over the 19YY pregnancy advice service have Germany's church lords dared to confront their pope so brazenly.

There's unrest in the local church communities, young Catholics are distancing themselves and bishops have stopped trying to explain what cannot be explained. Even loyal servants like Cologne's Cardinal Joachim Meisner or Regensburg's Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller were reported to have been appalled at the Vatican's bungling.

Lasting Damage

The broken glass can be swept away but it can't be mended. A degree of alienation and mistrust will remain between the German Catholics and their pope. People will take a closer look at his comments, question them more critically, behave more independently.

The Vatican has called on Bishop Williamson to retract his Holocaust denial. He may do so and declare that he had taken another look at the history books and didn't mean what he said about the Jews. It will change nothing. What could it change? Too many questions will remain unanswered. For example, why does the pope always hold out his hand of mercy in just one direction? Why doesn't he wave it over the black sheep Hans Küng or Leonardo Boff, the deeply pious liberation theologist?

How present is the disaster of the last century, the Holocaust, in the Vatican's view of the world if a dossier as explosive as the lifting of the excommunication of notoriously anti-Semitic bishops is handled in such a slovenly manner?

As far as the Vatican is concerned, the affair has been resolved by Wednesday's statement. Just as it was resolved last Wednesday and then on Tuesday this week. What's definite is that the honeymoon between the Germans and their pope is over. For almost four years this thoroughly secular country of Luther flirted with the pomp, the self-assuredness and the proud lack of modernity of the Catholic Church.

Commentators admired the rigor of the Tridentine Mass, the media covered "our pope" with fondness, curiosity and empathy. That's over. Benedict's rule has now passed a turning point. It is likely to be divided into a before and an after. This scandal surrounding Bishop Williamson has robbed this pope of his magic. It's a pity.

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good luck changin abortion laws with this administration and the probable chief justice or two Obama gets to nominate for supreme court

Exactly what I was thinking. :thumbs:

Don't just open your mouth and prove yourself a fool....put it in writing.

It gets harder the more you know. Because the more you find out, the uglier everything seems.

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Dear pope,

Please go eff yourself. When you have a uterus, live in the US and have the right to vote, we'll give a ####### what you think. In the meanwhile, deal with your own #######. You know, like pedophiles posing as priests and the like.

Ungraciously yours in Faith, Nancy's Office.

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Did the pope un-catholize Pelosi? He was very clear about the duty of Catholics and pelosi is very clear about her stance

Emmett Fitz-Hume: I'm sorry I'm late, I had to attend the reading of a will. I had to stay till the very end, and I found out I received nothing... broke my arm.

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