SSN #

[Freda 0]

Hey all, like a lot of others on this board I am wondering and looking into getting a ssn# when I get to the US. I found this site and was wondering if anyone else has saw this and does it work for us. I'll attach the link. But this is the part I was wondering about..............

IMMIGRATION STATUS: We need to see a current document issued to you by the Department of

Homeland Security (DHS) showing your immigration status, such as Form I-551, I-94, I-688B, or

I-766. We CANNOT accept a receipt showing you applied for the document. If you are not

authorized to work in the U.S., we can issue you a Social Security card only if you need the number

for a valid nonwork reason. (See HOW TO COMPLETE THIS APPLICATION, Page 2, Item 3.)

Your card will be marked to show you cannot work. If you do work, we will notify DHS.

Does anyone know if needing it to open a bank account or to get a marriage license and drivers license would qualify? Could we go this way and after we get married and get our EAD or greencard go back and change it? Heres the link to read. Any thoughts?????????

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/online/ss-5.pdf

[john_and_marlene 162]

Hey all, like a lot of others on this board I am wondering and looking into getting a ssn# when I get to the US. I found this site and was wondering if anyone else has saw this and does it work for us. I'll attach the link. But this is the part I was wondering about..............

IMMIGRATION STATUS: We need to see a current document issued to you by the Department of

Homeland Security (DHS) showing your immigration status, such as Form I-551, I-94, I-688B, or

I-766. We CANNOT accept a receipt showing you applied for the document. If you are not

authorized to work in the U.S., we can issue you a Social Security card only if you need the number

for a valid nonwork reason. (See HOW TO COMPLETE THIS APPLICATION, Page 2, Item 3.)

Your card will be marked to show you cannot work. If you do work, we will notify DHS.

Does anyone know if needing it to open a bank account or to get a marriage license and drivers license would qualify? Could we go this way and after we get married and get our EAD or greencard go back and change it? Heres the link to read. Any thoughts?????????

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/online/ss-5.pdf

As a K1 visa holder, you qualify to apply for an SSN. Just make sure you get it done early. They won't issue you one if your I-94 is within 2 weeks of expiring.

[Freda 0]

Then why does it seem so many are having problems?

[Craig2006 0]

2 weeks after you enter the US (by than you should be in the system), go to your local Social Security office and apply for your SSN. You will need to bring your passport with your valid K-1 visa. Must people receive their SSN within 1-2 weeks. You can apply for a name change (if you decide to change it) after you are married. The process is much quicker if you apply as soon as you can.

[Freda 0]

Thank you. I am really nervous about getting it to get a marriage license. My fiance spoke with someone at the office that issues the license and they said my I-94 would be all I need, but we all know how they are more often than not wrong. And since we can't get our license until a week before the wedding because my fiance will be out of the country until then I would really like to have the ssn# when we go so we don't run into any problems getting it at that late point. So I'll be there the 24th of June I'll apply 2 weeks after we get there and we should be ok. It just seemed that lately there have been a few VJer's not being able to get one to open bank accounts and get drivers licenses and such so I have been really concerned.

[gag54611 1]

Freda,

Your timeline is very similar to ours, just 1 year later, even down to the wedding day!!

Don't be concerned. As suggested, wait for 2 or 3 weeks after you arrive in the USA, file the application, and you'll get the card a couple of weeks later. Then, when you apply for your AOS after the wedding, also apply for an EAD (form I-765). The latter will take about 3 months to arrive. Once you have it, go back to the SS office and ask to have your name changed (you'll need a certified copy of your marriage certificate). Finally, once your green card arrives, you can go back to the SS office again and ask to have the restriction remved from your SS card.

Best of luck,

G

[Freda 0]

Thank you, my fiances trip came at the worst time for us but can't be avoided and him being gone from July and not returning until the week before the wedding makes it a tight deadline for us. And with all the headaches of planning the wedding and everything else I just don't want any surprises.

[I'm Gone 60]

SSA will not assign an SSN or issue a card if your status has expired or is

within 14 days of expiring.

K-1 status is good for 90 days, so that only gives you 76 days to be

assigned an SSN and issued a card. After that time you will need an EAD

or I-551 card to establish authorization to work. Before that time the

I-94 showing K-1 status is the document that establishes authorization

to work for SSN purposes.

The status/documents of all aliens must be verified before SSA will

assign an SSN and/or issue a card and the 14 day limit applies even if

she passes the 76th day while waiting for her status to be verified.

The SSA office will try to verify your status through the SAVE system

while she is in the office. If they can't, they will send a form G-845

to immigration for manual verification. This could delay the assigning

of an SSN and/or issuing a card for weeks and some times months.

If the SSA office does send the G-845, suggest that you go back to the

SSA office no more than once a week with your documents to (1) ask them

to check SAVE again (2) ask if they sent a G-845 (3) if yes, did it come

back (4) after 30 days ask if they have followed up on the G-845 by

calling or sending another mark "second request."

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http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203720

RM 00203.720 Verifying Immigration Documents

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http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203735

RM 00203.735 Requesting Online (Primary) Verification By SAVE

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After having waited at least 30 days and your local SSA office doesn't

seem concerned about following up on the G-845 you can try contacting

the SSA Regional Office (RO) responsible for your state:

http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/natlpocontacts.html

Refer them to this:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203740

RM 00203.740 Requesting Additional (Manual) Verification By DHS

B. PROCEDURE – HOW TO REQUEST MANUAL VERIFICATION

STEP 6

DHS should respond to SSA within 15 federal work days after receiving

the Form G-845. If DHS does not respond within 15 federal work days from

the receipt of the G-845 from SSA, follow-up with the DHS, USCIS

Immigration Status office. (Allow 15 days plus five additional federal

work days of mail time for the G-845 to be received at and returned from

DHS.

Follow local practice to follow-up with DHS. Some SSA offices have an

arrangement with the DHS, USCIS office to telephone for the follow-up

contact; other SSA offices send a copy of the original G-845 annotated

“second request.”) If the DHS response is still not received within 15

federal work days after the follow-up contact (if the follow-up is by

mail allow five additional federal work days of mail time for the G-845

to be received at and returned from DHS), make a second follow-up

contact. If the DHS response is not received within 15 federal workdays

(again, if the follow-up is by mail, allow five additional federal work

days of mail time for the G-845 to be received at and returned from

DHS), after two follow-ups, contact the RO. Also report to the RO any trend that shows a serious

deviation by DHS from the above time frames. The RO will consult with central office.

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Suggest that ypu take your birth certificate, passport and I-94 when

going to apply. That should cover age, identity and work authorized alien status.

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http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203210

RM 00203.210 Changing Numident Data

a. Bride Takes Groom’s Last Name

In all 50 U.S. States (this means the 50 States, Washington, D.C., Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, and American Samoa) the bride may take her husband's last name (surname or family name) as her new last name. (EXAMPLE: Jane Doe married John Jones and she may change her name to Jane Jones.)

Interim Guidance: If the bride wants to take her husband's last name, accept the marriage document as a legal name change for the bride if the new name can be derived from the marriage document; even if the marriage document only shows each partner's first names, the bride's prior surname and husband's surname. The marriage document alone can be accepted as evidence of identity for both the old and new names when it meets the criteria described in RM 00203.200G.2.

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203200#G2

2. Determine if the ID Document Has Required Information

Ask the applicant to submit one or more documents that show the person's name AND provide:

Biographical information in addition to the person's name that the reviewer can compare with the

data on the SS-5 (e.g., date of birth, age, or parents' names) and/or

Physical information that the reviewer can compare with the applicant (e.g., physical description,

photograph).

NOTE: A non-picture identity document must have the person's name as well as information that can be

compared to the Numident, the applicant or other documents submitted (e.g., age, date of birth, or

parents' names).

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C. Procedure - Immigration Document as Evidence of Legal Name

When issuing immigration documents, the Department of State and DHS issue them in the person's legal

name. The legal name is also generally the name in which the foreign passport was issued.

When an alien applies for an SSN card, presume the name on the immigration document is the legal

name unless the applicant presents evidence of a legal name change (e.g., marriage) that occurred

after the immigration document was issued.

[John24689 0]

Great information and references. Thank you.

Have a great day.

John