GM, Chrysler need another $21.6B

[Heracles 417]

they havent had a pay raise for 30 years already and if they would go 16 or 17/hour..it means that what they were fighting for will just be put in rest

but i know with the massive lay off 16 and 17/hour is already acceptable..

what do you think? and will they be called back to work again?

I don't believe that pay alone is the issue with UAW (unions) in the states. I draw the line with unions being able to tell a company who they hire, who they fire and basically how a company should operate. Like requiring three workers to move a computer work station. ####### like that goes beyond the scope of a union. As does demanding everyone earn the same pay, regardless of performance, attendance etc.

Unions should be able to represent and advise their members but they should not be able to use mob tactics and intimidation to get their way. This is the 21st century and we are operating in a global economy.

Edited April 24, 2009 by Constellation

[Heracles 417]

But hey I also don't blame the unions for the demise on the US auto industry. The executives and management is responsible for pushing rubbish cars and cutting back on research. Just look at the many European brands the big two owned yet drove into the ground. Brands that once were at the forefront of safety and technology.

I see it in my own company. Management is always focused on short-term profit (dividends) and cost cutting rather than long term growth. bean counters have a huge say in how things are run here. So for any of the international competitor it is easy to outsmart US companies as they simply aim for growth further down the road, rather than now. As did Toyota, Honda, Audi, Hyundai etc.

If apple or google had the attitude of the big three executives, they would be bankrupt too. Whereas, they understand how important investing in development and cutting-edge technologies is to growth.

Edited April 24, 2009 by Constellation

[mhaze 0]

thats the problem with the big auto industry..they didnt think ahead rather they were only thinking whats in the present maybe they still believe that they are the powerful but then again its not..

but i hope its not going to be the end yet...others think that once the auto industry dies then its a domino effect