Outrage brewing over proposed 1,900% beer tax hike

[Saddle Bronc 124]

pwned by my sister purple

Dean; she only pwned herself (maybe she noticed some old expired "flip" in her fridge and didn't want to waste it)

[Ban Hammer 13,332]

They wouldn't have to if more people would admit that taxes are a necessary evil and apply them on a broader base. Sadly the 'smaller government' crowd have created an unwieldy wagon that we have to continue to travel on, despite the availability of much more comfortable modes of transportation being readily available.

Wow, my metaphor got quite out of hand...

You are so fond of taxes, would you pay mine too?

What kind of stupid question is that? You want to opt out so someone else has to pull your weight? I think not, mate.

Mind you, if you want to opt out of all government services so that there is no financial deficit by your not paying taxes, go right ahead.

Just because I accept my civic responsibilities, it certainly does not mean I want to take on the burden of some slacker who wants everything for nothing

welcome to the argument about nhc

Edited February 16, 2009 by charles!

[Peikko 1,575]

They wouldn't have to if more people would admit that taxes are a necessary evil and apply them on a broader base. Sadly the 'smaller government' crowd have created an unwieldy wagon that we have to continue to travel on, despite the availability of much more comfortable modes of transportation being readily available.

Wow, my metaphor got quite out of hand...

You are so fond of taxes, would you pay mine too?

What kind of stupid question is that? You want to opt out so someone else has to pull your weight? I think not, mate.

Mind you, if you want to opt out of all government services so that there is no financial deficit by your not paying taxes, go right ahead.

Just because I accept my civic responsibilities, it certainly does not mean I want to take on the burden of some slacker who wants everything for nothing

welcome to the argument about nhc

Not at all. The bigger the pool the better for everyone. Health care is not a matter of personal responsibility, not for the most part (addictions not withstanding, and you can insert all of them in there). Either you accept the idea that insurance is designed in such a way that those who don't need it pay for those who do or you don't. If you don't, then you basically want everyone to pay their own medical bills (no insurance) but if you do (as most people do) then the most efficient way of doing it is the way to go. What we have now is a recipe for making insurance companies rich at the expense of those who pay their premiums. That's not health care, that's just scandalous.

[Ban Hammer 13,332]

They wouldn't have to if more people would admit that taxes are a necessary evil and apply them on a broader base. Sadly the 'smaller government' crowd have created an unwieldy wagon that we have to continue to travel on, despite the availability of much more comfortable modes of transportation being readily available.

Wow, my metaphor got quite out of hand...

You are so fond of taxes, would you pay mine too?

What kind of stupid question is that? You want to opt out so someone else has to pull your weight? I think not, mate.

Mind you, if you want to opt out of all government services so that there is no financial deficit by your not paying taxes, go right ahead.

Just because I accept my civic responsibilities, it certainly does not mean I want to take on the burden of some slacker who wants everything for nothing

welcome to the argument about nhc

Not at all. The bigger the pool the better for everyone. Health care is not a matter of personal responsibility, not for the most part (addictions not withstanding, and you can insert all of them in there). Either you accept the idea that insurance is designed in such a way that those who don't need it pay for those who do or you don't. If you don't, then you basically want everyone to pay their own medical bills (no insurance) but if you do (as most people do) then the most efficient way of doing it is the way to go. What we have now is a recipe for making insurance companies rich at the expense of those who pay their premiums. That's not health care, that's just scandalous.

yawn, backpedal faster will ya?

[Peikko 1,575]

Backpeddle? From what? You are a crazy loon Charles.

[Ban Hammer 13,332]

Backpeddle? From what? You are a crazy loon Charles.

i'm just enjoying you make statements that don't apply across the board. got many of them double standards?

[DeadPoolX 9]

In most areas of life, I'm all for small government. I don't like the government intruding. However, there are some areas of life in which the government needs to take more control. Once again, I'd prefer those situations are far and few between, but government does serve a purpose.

[rclouse 0]

I've got some pitchforks. Who's got the torches?

[Ban Hammer 13,332]

I've got some pitchforks. Who's got the torches?

coming right up