Trade a gun for a rose in SC on Valentine's Day

[tmma 467]

And I don't see how having a gun makes a person more of a man.

Having a gun doesn't make a person "more of a man," nor does not having one do so. Nice red herring, though Btw, many women own guns, too. Are they trying to be "more of a man?"

maybe women with firearms are really lesbians

Well, this one isn't!!!!!!

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Statistically speaking, merely possessing a firearm in your home actually makes your home more dangerous than safe. I'm all for people choosing to exercise their right to own firearms, but the reality is that often times the very thing you are bringing into your home for personal safety is the very thing that ends up involved in an accidental shooting or domestic homicide.

[Yoink 7]

Statistically speaking, merely possessing a firearm in your home actually makes your home more dangerous than safe. I'm all for people choosing to exercise their right to own firearms, but the reality is that often times the very thing you are bringing into your home for personal safety is the very thing that ends up involved in an accidental shooting or domestic homicide.

dangerous for intruders...

I wonder if they break down the stats of legal gun-owners with and without children in the home and who may or may not keep their gun locked away

[luckytxn 2,264]

Statistically speaking, merely possessing a firearm in your home actually makes your home more dangerous than safe. I'm all for people choosing to exercise their right to own firearms, but the reality is that often times the very thing you are bringing into your home for personal safety is the very thing that ends up involved in an accidental shooting or domestic homicide.

Where is your stats on this? Everything I have seen or read shows this is complete bunk.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

‘There are lies, damn lies - and statistics.’

http://www1c.btwebworld.com/quote-unquote/p0000149.htm

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Statistically speaking, merely possessing a firearm in your home actually makes your home more dangerous than safe. I'm all for people choosing to exercise their right to own firearms, but the reality is that often times the very thing you are bringing into your home for personal safety is the very thing that ends up involved in an accidental shooting or domestic homicide.

dangerous for intruders...

I wonder if they break down the stats of legal gun-owners with and without children in the home and who may or may not keep their gun locked away

Look up the statistics - they're very sobering for Domestic Homicides....you know, where the husband decides he needs to defend himself from his wife's intrusions.

As far as homes without children - I'm not sure what part of the country you've lived in, but without even checking, my guess the number of homes with children in them is somewhere around 80 percent.

The statistics don't lie which is no wonder the police dept. in the OP conducted this event to get more legal firearms out of people's homes - because most of the gun violence they end up investigating is domestic.

[tmma 467]

Statistically speaking, merely possessing a firearm in your home actually makes your home more dangerous than safe. I'm all for people choosing to exercise their right to own firearms, but the reality is that often times the very thing you are bringing into your home for personal safety is the very thing that ends up involved in an accidental shooting or domestic homicide.

Statistically speaking the over whelming majority of people that own firearms do not use them in domestic violence incidents or get involved in accidental shootings. Reality is that often times THAT point is forgotten.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

(You can deny the fact, but these statistics are very real and very telling)

A gun is the most commonly used weapon in domestic homicide. In 1998, more than four times as many women were murdered with a gun by their husbands or intimate partners than were killed by strangers' guns, knives or other weapons combined (Violence Policy Center; When Men Murder Women: An Analysis of 1998 Homicide Data: Females Murdered by Males in Single Victim/Single Offender Incidents; 2000). In addition, nearly 1/3 of all women murdered in the United States in 1998 were killed by a current or former intimate partner. Guns were used in almost 2/3 of these domestic homicides (U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics; Homicide Trends in the U.S., Intimate Partner Homicide; 2001).

In 1998, 808 women were shot and killed by their husbands or intimate acquaintances (U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics; Homicide Trends in the U.S., Intimate Partner Homicide; 2001). The presence of a gun dramatically increases the chance a domestic violence incident will end in murder. One study found that, in Atlanta, family and intimate assaults involving guns were 12 times more likely to result in death than family and intimate assaults not involving guns (L. Saltzman, et.al; Weapon Involvement and Injury Outcomes in Family and Intimate Assaults; 1992).

In 1998, for every time a woman used a handgun to kill an intimate partner in self-defense, 83 women were murdered by an intimate partner with a handgun (Violence Policy Center; When Men Murder Women: An Analysis of 1998 Homicide Data: Females Murdered by Males in Single Victim/Single Offender Incidents; 2000).

Domestic violence misdemeanor convictions and restraining orders were the second most common reason for denials of handgun purchase applications (U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics; A National Estimate: Presale Handgun Checks, the Brady Interim Period, 1994-98; 1999).

[luckytxn 2,264]

Statistically speaking, merely possessing a firearm in your home actually makes your home more dangerous than safe. I'm all for people choosing to exercise their right to own firearms, but the reality is that often times the very thing you are bringing into your home for personal safety is the very thing that ends up involved in an accidental shooting or domestic homicide.

dangerous for intruders...

I wonder if they break down the stats of legal gun-owners with and without children in the home and who may or may not keep their gun locked away

Look up the statistics - they're very sobering for Domestic Homicides....you know, where the husband decides he needs to defend himself from his wife's intrusions.

As far as homes without children - I'm not sure what part of the country you've lived in, but without even checking, my guess the number of homes with children in them is somewhere around 80 percent.

The statistics don't lie which is no wonder the police dept. in the OP conducted this event to get more legal firearms out of people's homes - because most of the gun violence they end up investigating is domestic.

You are still not showing any stats or links to prove your point. You are very wrong. Since protecting yourself and/or home is important then having a gun in the house is the best thing to do. You are now just spouting fake ####### until you show proof. You are the one that said, "statiscally speaking".

[luckytxn 2,264]

Ok I will cut and paste some random stats too. Of course you did not show where the wives shot their partner or husband. Also the many times that a gun saved a wife or husband from being harmed. So let me go onto google and start just cut and pasting a bunch of random supposed stats. Be back.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Ok I will cut and paste some random stats too. Of course you did not show where the wives shot their partner or husband. Also the many times that a gun saved a wife or husband from being harmed. So let me go onto google and start just cut and pasting a bunch of random supposed stats. Be back.

Read the stats, Tex. It's all there.

[DeadPoolX 9]

Ok I will cut and paste some random stats too. Of course you did not show where the wives shot their partner or husband. Also the many times that a gun saved a wife or husband from being harmed. So let me go onto google and start just cut and pasting a bunch of random supposed stats. Be back.

Read the stats, Tex. It's all there.

As someone who has taken numerous statistics courses, I can say that stats mean relatively nothing -- unless you know exactly where the information came from, how it was collected, who collected it, who's sponsoring the collection, and why it's been gathered in the first place. Otherwise, anyone can make up -- or tinker with --whatever stats they want.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Ok I will cut and paste some random stats too. Of course you did not show where the wives shot their partner or husband. Also the many times that a gun saved a wife or husband from being harmed. So let me go onto google and start just cut and pasting a bunch of random supposed stats. Be back.

Read the stats, Tex. It's all there.

As someone who has taken numerous statistics courses, I can say that stats mean relatively nothing -- unless you know exactly where the information came from, how it was collected, who collected it, who's sponsoring the collection, and why it's been gathered in the first place. Otherwise, anyone can make up -- or tinker with --whatever stats they want.

For crying outloud....it must be Monday and some of you forgot your eye glasses...

A gun is the most commonly used weapon in domestic homicide. In 1998, more than four times as many women were murdered with a gun by their husbands or intimate partners than were killed by strangers' guns, knives or other weapons combined (Violence Policy Center; When Men Murder Women: An Analysis of 1998 Homicide Data: Females Murdered by Males in Single Victim/Single Offender Incidents; 2000). In addition, nearly 1/3 of all women murdered in the United States in 1998 were killed by a current or former intimate partner. Guns were used in almost 2/3 of these domestic homicides (U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics; Homicide Trends in the U.S., Intimate Partner Homicide; 2001).

In 1998, 808 women were shot and killed by their husbands or intimate acquaintances (U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics; Homicide Trends in the U.S., Intimate Partner Homicide; 2001). The presence of a gun dramatically increases the chance a domestic violence incident will end in murder. One study found that, in Atlanta, family and intimate assaults involving guns were 12 times more likely to result in death than family and intimate assaults not involving guns (L. Saltzman, et.al; Weapon Involvement and Injury Outcomes in Family and Intimate Assaults; 1992).

In 1998, for every time a woman used a handgun to kill an intimate partner in self-defense, 83 women were murdered by an intimate partner with a handgun (Violence Policy Center; When Men Murder Women: An Analysis of 1998 Homicide Data: Females Murdered by Males in Single Victim/Single Offender Incidents; 2000).

Domestic violence misdemeanor convictions and restraining orders were the second most common reason for denials of handgun purchase applications (U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics; A National Estimate: Presale Handgun Checks, the Brady Interim Period, 1994-98; 1999).

Edited February 16, 2009 by Mister Fancypants

[luckytxn 2,264]

Ok I will cut and paste some random stats too. Of course you did not show where the wives shot their partner or husband. Also the many times that a gun saved a wife or husband from being harmed. So let me go onto google and start just cut and pasting a bunch of random supposed stats. Be back.

Read the stats, Tex. It's all there.

You showed one small stat. What other stats? You do understand over 2 million times a year a gun has potentially saved a life right? Women own almost half of all guns in the United states.

Also if a husband wants to kill his wife he will do so. Either with a gun or some other method. It is not the gun that killed the wife. It is the husband. Think about all this.

No the stats are that guns in the homes save many lives and way more than accidental shooting or husbands that kill their wives. Those are the stats. Now I posted a link earlier showing this but maybe you missed it?

As you said Mister. The stats speak for themselves now go do some reading. Us grownups want to talk.

[DeadPoolX 9]

Ok I will cut and paste some random stats too. Of course you did not show where the wives shot their partner or husband. Also the many times that a gun saved a wife or husband from being harmed. So let me go onto google and start just cut and pasting a bunch of random supposed stats. Be back.

Read the stats, Tex. It's all there.

As someone who has taken numerous statistics courses, I can say that stats mean relatively nothing -- unless you know exactly where the information came from, how it was collected, who collected it, who's sponsoring the collection, and why it's been gathered in the first place. Otherwise, anyone can make up -- or tinker with --whatever stats they want.

For crying outloud....it must be Monday and some of you forgot your eye glasses...

A gun is the most commonly used weapon in domestic homicide. In 1998, more than four times as many women were murdered with a gun by their husbands or intimate partners than were killed by strangers' guns, knives or other weapons combined (Violence Policy Center; When Men Murder Women: An Analysis of 1998 Homicide Data: Females Murdered by Males in Single Victim/Single Offender Incidents; 2000). In addition, nearly 1/3 of all women murdered in the United States in 1998 were killed by a current or former intimate partner. Guns were used in almost 2/3 of these domestic homicides (U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics; Homicide Trends in the U.S., Intimate Partner Homicide; 2001).

In 1998, 808 women were shot and killed by their husbands or intimate acquaintances (U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics; Homicide Trends in the U.S., Intimate Partner Homicide; 2001). The presence of a gun dramatically increases the chance a domestic violence incident will end in murder. One study found that, in Atlanta, family and intimate assaults involving guns were 12 times more likely to result in death than family and intimate assaults not involving guns (L. Saltzman, et.al; Weapon Involvement and Injury Outcomes in Family and Intimate Assaults; 1992).

In 1998, for every time a woman used a handgun to kill an intimate partner in self-defense, 83 women were murdered by an intimate partner with a handgun (Violence Policy Center; When Men Murder Women: An Analysis of 1998 Homicide Data: Females Murdered by Males in Single Victim/Single Offender Incidents; 2000).

Domestic violence misdemeanor convictions and restraining orders were the second most common reason for denials of handgun purchase applications (U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics; A National Estimate: Presale Handgun Checks, the Brady Interim Period, 1994-98; 1999).

Well, actually... my glasses do need be cleaned. But that's neither here nor there. The point I was attempting to make is that stats can be filtered to present whatever you wish. That doesn't mean they're necessarily invalid, but just because a statistic says something, that doesn't mean that's the "end all, be all" of the topic.