Trade a gun for a rose in SC on Valentine's Day

[Marilyn. 340]

you guys act like Becca was tying to take your guns away or something.. she was just asking if there was anyway to make them as safe as possible...

[Caladan 19]

I wouldn't carry around here, even though live in an urban area with a fair amount of street crime, mostly because I can't see shooting someone over a mugging, and one shouldn't carry a gun if one is not mentally prepared to use it.

In a rural area I'd absolutely want a firearm. Too far from help, in some cases there are cougars and coyotes and things.

[Scott & Lai 12]

you guys act like Becca was tying to take your guns away or something.. she was just asking if there was anyway to make them as safe as possible...

No, she was suggesting that we render them essentially unusable in situations where it is necessary to have them ready as quickly as possible. She asked why we wouldn't keep a gun and its firing mechanism stored separately, we answered. The primary purpose of owning a gun is for self-defense. Increasing the steps involved to readying the gun for firing defeats that purpose.

Edited February 16, 2009 by Scott & Lai

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I wouldn't carry around here, even though live in an urban area with a fair amount of street crime, mostly because I can't see shooting someone over a mugging, and one shouldn't carry a gun if one is not mentally prepared to use it.

In a rural area I'd absolutely want a firearm. Too far from help, in some cases there are cougars and coyotes and things.

Not to mention, evidently, illegal Mexicans hiding behind every bush, and all them crazy people from Missouri and Kansas!

you guys act like Becca was tying to take your guns away or something.. she was just asking if there was anyway to make them as safe as possible...

No, she was suggesting that we render them essentially unusable in situations where it is necessary to have them ready as quickly as possible. She asked why we wouldn't keep a gun and its firing mechanism stored separately, we answered.

I like baseball bats. They never misfire, and you don't have to reload.

[rebeccajo 14]

you guys act like Becca was tying to take your guns away or something.. she was just asking if there was anyway to make them as safe as possible...

No, she was suggesting that we render them essentially unusable in situations where it is necessary to have them ready as quickly as possible. She asked why we wouldn't keep a gun and its firing mechanism stored separately, we answered. The primary purpose of owning a gun is for self-defense. Increasing the steps involved to readying the gun for firing defeats that purpose.

Is it really necessary to have your gun ready as quickly as possible inside your house?

Really?

[Marilyn. 340]

You don't "lock" a gun before firing it, and you generally don't remove the firing mechanism for storage.

Just because I'm ignorant about these things - why wouldn't you?

you guys act like Becca was tying to take your guns away or something.. she was just asking if there was anyway to make them as safe as possible...

No, she was suggesting that we render them essentially unusable in situations where it is necessary to have them ready as quickly as possible. She asked why we wouldn't keep a gun and its firing mechanism stored separately, we answered. The primary purpose of owning a gun is for self-defense. Increasing the steps involved to readying the gun for firing defeats that purpose.

actually I don't think she mentioned anything about storing them separately.. she just asked about removing them...

[rebeccajo 14]

You don't "lock" a gun before firing it, and you generally don't remove the firing mechanism for storage.

Just because I'm ignorant about these things - why wouldn't you?

you guys act like Becca was tying to take your guns away or something.. she was just asking if there was anyway to make them as safe as possible...

No, she was suggesting that we render them essentially unusable in situations where it is necessary to have them ready as quickly as possible. She asked why we wouldn't keep a gun and its firing mechanism stored separately, we answered. The primary purpose of owning a gun is for self-defense. Increasing the steps involved to readying the gun for firing defeats that purpose.

actually I don't think she mentioned anything about storing them separately.. she just asked about removing them...

Come to think of it........I didn't...............

[Caladan 19]

I have to say that I don't think removing the firing mechanism would add much in terms of safety that a gun cabinet or a smart practice of storing ammo separately, and it would surely defeat the self-defense aspect. (Though I think gun owners tend to overestimate the likelihood that they'll ever need it for self-defense or the likelihood that they'd use it properly.)

Perhaps this is just a consequence of growing up in a household that had a gun, but my dad kept his gun in a case and the ammo on a high shelf and taught us all how to check to make sure a gun was unloaded and how to clean it. Not even a safe. My uncle had a safe, because he collected antique firearms.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

you guys act like Becca was tying to take your guns away or something.. she was just asking if there was anyway to make them as safe as possible...

No, she was suggesting that we render them essentially unusable in situations where it is necessary to have them ready as quickly as possible. She asked why we wouldn't keep a gun and its firing mechanism stored separately, we answered. The primary purpose of owning a gun is for self-defense. Increasing the steps involved to readying the gun for firing defeats that purpose.

Is it really necessary to have your gun ready as quickly as possible inside your house?

Really?

To tell the truth, if it is not ready to go, it is useless.

Edited February 16, 2009 by Mister_Bill

[NickD 203]

you guys act like Becca was tying to take your guns away or something.. she was just asking if there was anyway to make them as safe as possible...

No, she was suggesting that we render them essentially unusable in situations where it is necessary to have them ready as quickly as possible. She asked why we wouldn't keep a gun and its firing mechanism stored separately, we answered. The primary purpose of owning a gun is for self-defense. Increasing the steps involved to readying the gun for firing defeats that purpose.

Maybe in your neck of the woods, we are sportsman in my neck of the woods. Could say since just about everyone owns a gun, it, like our nuclear weapons works as a very good deterrent. If a gang member should approach you and you either kill or maim him, if you are not convicted of second degree murder, what chance would you or your family be of surviving this incident?

Wife and daughter come from a country that uses bars on the windows, and a jail like cell door before you get to the main door to get in, takes four keys to get in. Vehicles are equipped with one way glass so potential culprits can't see in. They really love living here where they can even walk around the block at night without fear of being raped or robbed. Perhaps, it is because we all have guns we can enjoy that freedom.

Venezuela with their very strict gun control laws has the highest murder rate of any country in the world, taking away the guns from the good people, leaving all the guns with the bad. Same thing is happening here and that is what happens when we have a$$holes for leaders.

[NickD 203]

What idiot is making our young girls dress up like soldiers, carrying a gun and riding around in Iraq in very obvious military type vehicles fighting an enemy that looks like everyone else? Walking targets. Even our own idiotic police department is using uncover cars just for the sole purpose of issuing traffic tickets, and Iraq is a police action. Plus we have our hands tied behind our backs with strict rules of engagement the enemy doesn't have to follow, literally, can't shoot back unless you are dead. Here, having a gun doesn't help at all and is more of a hindrance than a line of self defense.

Yeah, Chavez won is right to run for re-election, but did it differently this time, used his police and boy scout type solders to suppress any demonstrations against his referendum yesterday. You can do that if you have guns, and the main population does not. Then their constitution permits this change with just a slim majority.

[justashooter 430]

Can I give them a rose and a $100 gift card and take away one of the guns?

+100

[justashooter 430]

you guys act like Becca was tying to take your guns away or something.. she was just asking if there was anyway to make them as safe as possible...

No, she was suggesting that we render them essentially unusable in situations where it is necessary to have them ready as quickly as possible. She asked why we wouldn't keep a gun and its firing mechanism stored separately, we answered. The primary purpose of owning a gun is for self-defense. Increasing the steps involved to readying the gun for firing defeats that purpose.

Is it really necessary to have your gun ready as quickly as possible inside your house?

Really?

ask anybody who has been awakened in the middle of the night to the sound of their door being kicked in (or in the afternoon, or evening, or morning).

"Wait, I have to put the firing pin back in my gun, but I have to get it out of the safe first!!!"

i live in the woods, in an area with very low crime rate. even so, 3 hispanics in safety vests stopped at an elderly neighbors house a few weeks ago and told him they were there to work on the water pipes (no public water for miles). one took him around the back of the house, while the others went in the front door. the man's wife met them with two barrels, and they ran to the truck and were off. if they had stopped at a house occupied only by an unarmed woman?

"God created all men equal. Sam Colt made it so."

[Caladan 19]

you guys act like Becca was tying to take your guns away or something.. she was just asking if there was anyway to make them as safe as possible...

No, she was suggesting that we render them essentially unusable in situations where it is necessary to have them ready as quickly as possible. She asked why we wouldn't keep a gun and its firing mechanism stored separately, we answered. The primary purpose of owning a gun is for self-defense. Increasing the steps involved to readying the gun for firing defeats that purpose.

Maybe in your neck of the woods, we are sportsman in my neck of the woods. Could say since just about everyone owns a gun, it, like our nuclear weapons works as a very good deterrent. If a gang member should approach you and you either kill or maim him, if you are not convicted of second degree murder, what chance would you or your family be of surviving this incident?

Wife and daughter come from a country that uses bars on the windows, and a jail like cell door before you get to the main door to get in, takes four keys to get in. Vehicles are equipped with one way glass so potential culprits can't see in. They really love living here where they can even walk around the block at night without fear of being raped or robbed. Perhaps, it is because we all have guns we can enjoy that freedom.

Venezuela with their very strict gun control laws has the highest murder rate of any country in the world, taking away the guns from the good people, leaving all the guns with the bad. Same thing is happening here and that is what happens when we have a$$holes for leaders.

The problem with this argument is that there are societies with high levels of gun ownership that are violent, ones with high levels of gun ownership that are peaceful, and vice versa.

[Ban Hammer 13,773]

I wouldn't carry around here, even though live in an urban area with a fair amount of street crime, mostly because I can't see shooting someone over a mugging, and one shouldn't carry a gun if one is not mentally prepared to use it.

In a rural area I'd absolutely want a firearm. Too far from help, in some cases there are cougars and coyotes and things.

exactly the situation i have here.