Retirement money, ID, buying house when Chinese woman goes to China

[endoftheroad 1]

Many questions.

Chinese woman pays for retirement in China a long time. Then she does a K1 and marries in the USA. USA groom and her want to go retire in China. The USA groom can get USA social security. Can she still get the retirement money from the Chinese government? Can she still have her Chinese ID card? Can she still buy a house and other things like she could before? Does anything change for her?

Thanks.

[justashooter 430]

Many questions.

Chinese woman pays for retirement in China a long time. Then she does a K1 and marries in the USA. USA groom and her want to go retire in China. The USA groom can get USA social security. Can she still get the retirement money from the Chinese government? Can she still have her Chinese ID card? Can she still buy a house and other things like she could before? Does anything change for her?

Thanks.

chinese woman should get US green card only. should consider carefully before getting citizenship.

it is possible for USA groom to get chinese "green card" as husband of chinese citizen, but not if she is then US citizen, and has given up chinese citizenship. she gives up her chinese passport to become US citizen, and everything china becomes much harder and more expensive. one benefit, though, is if husband dies earlier than her, she can continue his US retirement benefit as widow.

retirement plan in china is rare, and usually company sponsored, and records held by company. have to buy these records when she leaves company.

[endoftheroad 1]

Many questions.

Chinese woman pays for retirement in China a long time. Then she does a K1 and marries in the USA. USA groom and her want to go retire in China. The USA groom can get USA social security. Can she still get the retirement money from the Chinese government? Can she still have her Chinese ID card? Can she still buy a house and other things like she could before? Does anything change for her?

Thanks.

chinese woman should get US green card only. should consider carefully before getting citizenship.

it is possible for USA groom to get chinese "green card" as husband of chinese citizen, but not if she is then US citizen, and has given up chinese citizenship. she gives up her chinese passport to become US citizen, and everything china becomes much harder and more expensive. one benefit, though, is if husband dies earlier than her, she can continue his US retirement benefit as widow.

retirement plan in china is rare, and usually company sponsored, and records held by company. have to buy these records when she leaves company.

So if she becomes a USA citizen then she can never have a Chinese ID card again? Can she come to the USA, get married and stay/work without becoming a USA citizen, and keep her ID card?

[Jasman0717 9]

Many questions.

Chinese woman pays for retirement in China a long time. Then she does a K1 and marries in the USA. USA groom and her want to go retire in China. The USA groom can get USA social security. Can she still get the retirement money from the Chinese government? Can she still have her Chinese ID card? Can she still buy a house and other things like she could before? Does anything change for her?

Thanks.

You better make sure about drawing social security in China. Some countries are on a restriction list so you can't draw benefits.

[endoftheroad 1]

I was thinking if we wanted to retire in China, and she can't come to the USA without losing her ID card, house, and maybe retirement money, maybe she shouldn't come.

[Penguin_ie 5,993]

There is no requirement to become a US citizen; the Cinese woman could stay a LPR/ green card holder forever if she so chooses.

[endoftheroad 1]

There is no requirement to become a US citizen; the Cinese woman could stay a LPR/ green card holder forever if she so chooses.

So that means she would still be a Chinese citizen and keep her China ID card valid? I forgot what LPR means. She will be able to work in the USA too? Edited February 14, 2009 by usagroom

[endoftheroad 1]

There is no requirement to become a US citizen; the Cinese woman could stay a LPR/ green card holder forever if she so chooses.

So that means she would still be a Chinese citizen and keep her China ID card valid? I forgot what LPR means. She will be able to work in the USA too?

Got the answers. Thanks everyone.

- Doesn't have to become a USA citizen

- Can keep her China ID card as long as she keeps it from expiring

- As a K1 she can get work authorization and a USA Social Security card in three months after marraige

- Retirement money will be safe as long as she pays into it

- Both can collect USA Social Security in China

[endoftheroad 1]

One last question on retirement. If the Chinese woman works in the USA with a valid Social Security, is she eligible to collect the money deducted when she retires like USA citizens do?

[pushbrk 12,883]

One last question on retirement. If the Chinese woman works in the USA with a valid Social Security, is she eligible to collect the money deducted when she retires like USA citizens do?

Caution. Google "maintaining permanent resident status". Yes, there's no requirement to become a US Citizen but if the LPR status is not maintained, she may loose her ability to visit the USA.

People who qualify for SS benefits get what they qualify for. They do not "collect the money deducted". Generally, one would have the benefits automatically deposited in a US bank account, if living abroad. Then they can access or transfer the funds as needed.

[endoftheroad 1]

One last question on retirement. If the Chinese woman works in the USA with a valid Social Security, is she eligible to collect the money deducted when she retires like USA citizens do?

Caution. Google "maintaining permanent resident status". Yes, there's no requirement to become a US Citizen but if the LPR status is not maintained, she may loose her ability to visit the USA.

People who qualify for SS benefits get what they qualify for. They do not "collect the money deducted". Generally, one would have the benefits automatically deposited in a US bank account, if living abroad. Then they can access or transfer the funds as needed.

Yes, I meant the benefits she would qualify to receive. Would she get them if she did not become a USA citizen?

Concerning LPR, does this apply only to the Chinese citizen?

Re-entry Permit

A Re-entry Permit is usually necessary if a Permanent Resident or a Conditional Permanent Resident wishes to travel outside the United States for more than one year without losing their rights of residence in the United States and without having to apply for a new visa and start the immigration process from the very beginning. Form I-131 currently costs $305 and is valid for two years from the date it is issued or whenever a Conditional Permanent Resident has to apply to remove the conditions of their residence. It just depends what comes first. Permanent Residents and Conditional Permanent Residents must be physically present in the United States when they file their I-131. Form I-131 cannot be filed from outside the country.

Who Needs to Apply?

However, not all Permanent Residents or Conditional Permanent Residents have to apply for a Re-entry Permit to return to the United States unhindered after spending time abroad. Immigrants who fall into this category would be those who are the dependents of active duty military personnel stationed abroad or those who must travel abroad regularly for work, such as athletes, are not required to apply for a Re-entry Permit. But if you will not be moving abroad on US government orders and you are not a world class athlete, then you will need to apply for a Re-entry Permit.

How to Avoid Having Your Status Revoked

Permanent Residents and Conditional Permanent Residents who fall into the category of immigrants who must obtain a Re-entry Permit, but remain outside the country for more than a year without first applying for a Re-entry Permit, could be deemed to have abandoned their Permanent or Conditional Permanent Resident Status. If this happens, they will lose their status, and they will not be allowed re-entry back to the United States.

It is very important to assess your own personal situation before you move abroad for more than a year and find out whether you need to apply for a Re-entry Permit before you leave the country. If you are in any doubt about what you should do, visit the USCIS website at www.uscis.gov or contact the National Customer Service Centre at 1-800-375-5283.

http://www.socyberty.com/Government/How-to-Maintain-Permanent-Resident-Status.80487 ://http://www.socyberty.com/Government...t-Status.80487 ://http://www.socyberty.com/Government...t-Status.80487

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Thanks. Edited February 14, 2009 by usagroom

[pushbrk 12,883]

One last question on retirement. If the Chinese woman works in the USA with a valid Social Security, is she eligible to collect the money deducted when she retires like USA citizens do?

Caution. Google "maintaining permanent resident status". Yes, there's no requirement to become a US Citizen but if the LPR status is not maintained, she may loose her ability to visit the USA.

People who qualify for SS benefits get what they qualify for. They do not "collect the money deducted". Generally, one would have the benefits automatically deposited in a US bank account, if living abroad. Then they can access or transfer the funds as needed.

Yes, I meant the benefits she would qualify to receive. Would she get them if she did not become a USA citizen?

Concerning LPR, does this apply only to the Chinese citizen?

Re-entry Permit

A Re-entry Permit is usually necessary if a Permanent Resident or a Conditional Permanent Resident wishes to travel outside the United States for more than one year without losing their rights of residence in the United States and without having to apply for a new visa and start the immigration process from the very beginning. Form I-131 currently costs $305 and is valid for two years from the date it is issued or whenever a Conditional Permanent Resident has to apply to remove the conditions of their residence. It just depends what comes first. Permanent Residents and Conditional Permanent Residents must be physically present in the United States when they file their I-131. Form I-131 cannot be filed from outside the country.

Who Needs to Apply?

However, not all Permanent Residents or Conditional Permanent Residents have to apply for a Re-entry Permit to return to the United States unhindered after spending time abroad. Immigrants who fall into this category would be those who are the dependents of active duty military personnel stationed abroad or those who must travel abroad regularly for work, such as athletes, are not required to apply for a Re-entry Permit. But if you will not be moving abroad on US government orders and you are not a world class athlete, then you will need to apply for a Re-entry Permit.

How to Avoid Having Your Status Revoked

Permanent Residents and Conditional Permanent Residents who fall into the category of immigrants who must obtain a Re-entry Permit, but remain outside the country for more than a year without first applying for a Re-entry Permit, could be deemed to have abandoned their Permanent or Conditional Permanent Resident Status. If this happens, they will lose their status, and they will not be allowed re-entry back to the United States.

It is very important to assess your own personal situation before you move abroad for more than a year and find out whether you need to apply for a Re-entry Permit before you leave the country. If you are in any doubt about what you should do, visit the USCIS website at www.uscis.gov or contact the National Customer Service Centre at 1-800-375-5283.

http://www.socyberty.com/Government/How-to-Maintain-Permanent-Resident-Status.80487 ://http://www.socyberty.com/Government...t-Status.80487 ://http://www.socyberty.com/Government...t-Status.80487 ://http://www.socyberty.com/Government...t-Status.80487

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Thanks.

These instructions apply to Legal Permanent Residents. (Green Card Holders) Check a dictionary for clarification of "permanent" and "resident" if you need to. My statement stands as written for the SS benefits. She would receive what she qualifies for. It's best to do direct deposit to a US bank account.

[OKIE2 0]

chinese woman should get US green card only. should consider carefully before getting citizenship.

it is possible for USA groom to get chinese "green card" as husband of chinese citizen, but not if she is then US citizen, and has given up chinese citizenship. she gives up her chinese passport to become US citizen, and everything china becomes much harder and more expensive. one benefit, though, is if husband dies earlier than her, she can continue his US retirement benefit as widow.

"she gives up her chinese passport to become US citizen"

Where did you get this information from????????????

I was married to a Russian woman and she did get her citizenship and INS did not take her Russian passport so why would they want a chinese passport????????????

[OKIE2 0]

Many questions.

Chinese woman pays for retirement in China a long time. Then she does a K1 and marries in the USA. USA groom and her want to go retire in China. The USA groom can get USA social security. Can she still get the retirement money from the Chinese government? Can she still have her Chinese ID card? Can she still buy a house and other things like she could before? Does anything change for her?

Thanks.

Here is your answer from from someone thats knows what they are talking about from another post below yours

"My brother became US citizen 4 years ago. And he got 2 passports (US and HK SAR). Every time when he's going to China (mainland) he's using his HK ID and travle document so he can enter China directly from US and doesn't need to apply for Chinese Visa and he could stay in China as long as he wants to. When he returning back to US, he's using US passport to enter US without any problem."

[justashooter 430]

"she gives up her chinese passport to become US citizen"

Where did you get this information from????????????

I was married to a Russian woman and she did get her citizenship and INS did not take her Russian passport so why would they want a chinese passport????????????

"Chinese nationality would have been lost because Article 9 of Chinese nationality law automatically deprives citizenship to those who voluntarily acquire another citizenship."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_citizenship

"Article 9: Any Chinese national who has settled abroad and who has been naturalized as a foreign national or has acquired foreign nationality of his own free will shall automatically lose Chinese nationality."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationality_L...public_of_China

WIKI isn't god, but I have heard this before, and the presentation is credible. Some countries allow an immigrant to take on US citizenship and retain original citizenship. China isn't one of them.