AOS without the I-693 form?

[croat 0]

Hi guys

I went today to a local civil surgeon (approved by the USCIS) and he did not want to transfer my vaccination records from DS3025 to I-693 without me doing the whole medical exam again.

I just said I did want to do it again and left.

Can I just send the DS3025 (instead I-693) form with my AOS documents ? Do I have a chance of getting approved?

Thanks

[Carol and Bruno 0]

The civil surgeon that we went to said the same thing. I politely reminded him that his responsibility as a civil surgeon is to follow the guidelines and rules set forth by the USCIS. I showed him a copy of the instructions from the I-693 form that I carried with me stating that we did not need another full exam. He then transferred the vaccination information as well as gave my husband the flu shot and TB test all for $42.

He did however tell me that he has seen far more immigration cases than I have in which the applicants returned to get the full medical after the USCIS requested a new exam. His last words to me were, "You'll be back". I told him if we have to do the exam again, it will only be upon the request of the USCIS and not the doctor. I paid $42 and left.

I'm not sure you can get by without having a civil surgeon transfer the vaccination info as USCIS requires it. Maybe someone else will chime in and give you a different answer.

Edited February 12, 2009 by Carol and Bruno

[Soancika+Brian 0]

Hi,

Try looking for another civil surgeon. And bring the I-693 istructions with you just in case he says the same thing. I have heard of civil surgeons that say that you need the whole exam=more money for them.

[Izoom 0]

While I can't recall the particular thread, I seem to remember a discussion only weeks ago that was on this topic. I believe that some have had approval

without it and others have been asked to provide the documentation. I don't know what the "deciding" factor is, but if I can find that thread I will post it.

[croat 0]

The civil surgeon that we went to said the same thing. I politely reminded him that his responsibility as a civil surgeon is to follow the guidelines and rules set forth by the USCIS. I showed him a copy of the instructions from the I-693 form that I carried with me stating that we did not need another full exam. He then transferred the vaccination information as well as gave my husband the flu shot and TB test all for $42.

He did however tell me that he has seen far more immigration cases than I have in which the applicants returned to get the full medical after the USCIS requested a new exam. His last words to me were, "You'll be back". I told him if we have to do the exam again, it will only be upon the request of the USCIS and not the doctor. I paid $42 and left.

I'm not sure you can get by without having a civil surgeon transfer the vaccination info as USCIS requires it. Maybe someone else will chime in and give you a different answer.

I reminded him and his nurse of the same thing (USCIS guidelines), but the nurse kept saying that they cannot sign that form (I-693) without me doing the medical exam again, that is blood and TB test and that would be 170 dollars.

Another option what they told me was to contact the doctor in Canada who did my medical exam and have him fax the medical papers from my medical exam in Canada to them here in the US (doctor that I visited today). But that might take some time, and I am not even sure that the doctor in Canada would be able to do that.

What I am thinking now is just to send my AOS application to USCIS without the I-693 form. So I might get lucky, or if I get an RFE, at least I will know that I need a new medical exam for sure.

[JeremyR 8]

I sent off my AOS before I knew about VisaJourney. I didn't send in a 693 vaccination supplement because I had no idea there was a difference between that and the DS-3025 form (you'll notice that the 485 instructions do not mention specific form numbers). It's only by reading VJ that I realised that requirement existed.

I've been in processing since early September '08 and to this point (and bear in mind that I'm not approved yet), I have had RFEs for two different matters but neither of them were for the 693 vaccination supplement. At this point, my case is at CSC.

Does this mean you don't need to submit the 693 vaccination supplement? No. But at least in my case, the AOS packed wasn't rejected for not having one in it.

(Watch me get RFE'd for it tomorrow morning! )

[felb 0]

the requirement actually depends on the date of your medical exam before you came here. if it's before june 1, 2008, the vaccination supplement you have will do. if not, you have to submit the I693. otherwise you'll get an rfe or they'll have you bring it on your interview. although some have been approved without it by some luck. i myself missed that requirement when i filed for aos, so now i'm expecting an rfe.

[Andy-n-Maricar 6]

We have the same problem, trying to find a CS who is not a crook and actually agrees to follow USCIS guidelines for K-visa holders. No luck so far. Anyway, we sent in the DS-3025 and not the I-693 and expect to get an RFE, but at least it gives us time to find an honest and competent CS. There are many others in your situation who have done the same. Good luck.

[Izoom 0]

Well we shall find out the answers to our questions soon enough. I'm going to mark this thread so I can follow it to find out the results of the various situations we have here.

[EtherealVocalist 0]

Well we shall find out the answers to our questions soon enough. I'm going to mark this thread so I can follow it to find out the results of the various situations we have here.

ahhhhhhhhhh... The famous I-693!

There is unfortunately so many discrepancies between CSs. I went to one in Mass. and refused to sign the form EVEN if my husband had a Clear Xray saying that he is free of any cardiopulmonary diseases ( Normal Xray ). she refused to help us as where to go, and shoved us out of the door. I lost $120 ( she took payment BEFORE seeing us ).

I was so furious, i started calling other CSs in Maine and one I found knew what he was doing, said that there is no reason why she couldnt have signed the form... so I scheduled an apt with him and $180 later, he gave us the sealed enveloppe. he transfered all of his immunization records onto the new I-693 and was very happy to see what we came prepared...

So, it is their job to write that info onto the form. In my eyes, we came prepared, with all the shots and records. it was a VERY EASY $180 for him to make in less than 20 mins!

[croat 0]

Good news.

I called a few more doctors today, and the first two that I called agreed that they will transfer the DS-3025 vaccination records to I-693 for around 50 dollars!

One of them even called me back (wasn't there when I called) and talked to me for about 5-6 minutes. He was really nice and even admitted that some doctors just want to rip you off.

I am going to see one of them today,and if not successful, I will go to the other one.

Btw. I am in Ohio if anyone is wondering.

[frostysoftyeaton 6]

Hi,

Try looking for another civil surgeon. And bring the I-693 istructions with you just in case he says the same thing. I have heard of civil surgeons that say that you need the whole exam=more money for them.

Hi, i just want to know, where can I download the I-693 form? We are planning to go to a civil surgeon next month.

[croat 0]

Hi,

Try looking for another civil surgeon. And bring the I-693 istructions with you just in case he says the same thing. I have heard of civil surgeons that say that you need the whole exam=more money for them.

Hi, i just want to know, where can I download the I-693 form? We are planning to go to a civil surgeon next month.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-693.pdf

[frostysoftyeaton 6]

Hi,

Try looking for another civil surgeon. And bring the I-693 istructions with you just in case he says the same thing. I have heard of civil surgeons that say that you need the whole exam=more money for them.

Hi, i just want to know, where can I download the I-693 form? We are planning to go to a civil surgeon next month.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-693.pdf

Thanks so much.

[Z and S 0]

We had done just that -- sent DS3025 without 693 -- and were approved. At the time of interview, the officer looked at the DS3025 but moved on without saying any thing.

Hi guys

I went today to a local civil surgeon (approved by the USCIS) and he did not want to transfer my vaccination records from DS3025 to I-693 without me doing the whole medical exam again.

I just said I did want to do it again and left.

Can I just send the DS3025 (instead I-693) form with my AOS documents ? Do I have a chance of getting approved?

Thanks