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Filed: Other Country: China
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Hi,

I'm a little confused by this. I understand what continuous presence is. For example a permanent resident married to a citizen needs three years of it in order to become a citizen. Where I get a little hung up is the physical part. If the permanent resident leaves the U.S. for some periods (less than 6 months) during those three years, then does that time count against them?

Thanks for your help!

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Hi,

I'm a little confused by this. I understand what continuous presence is. For example a permanent resident married to a citizen needs three years of it in order to become a citizen. Where I get a little hung up is the physical part. If the permanent resident leaves the U.S. for some periods (less than 6 months) during those three years, then does that time count against them?

Thanks for your help!

In general, “continuous residence” concerns the maintenance of the applicant’s residence in the United States over a period of time required by a statute, where “residence” is determined by the applicant’s principal actual dwelling place in the United States.

“Physical presence” refers to the number of days the person must physically be in the United States. Unless specifically exempt, an applicant for naturalization must satisfy both “continuous residence” and “physical presence” requirements and must have resided in the State or USCIS district having jurisdiction over his or her place of residence for a minimum of three months preceding the filing of the application.

Section 316(a) of the Act prescribes that an applicant for naturalization must have “resided continuously, after being lawfully admitted for permanent residence, within the United States for at least five years and during the five years immediately preceding the date of filing” must also have “been physically present therein for periods totaling at least half of that time.” The resulting total of 30 months is the minimum physical presence requirement for such an applicant. Section 319 reduces that requirement to 3 yrs if married to a USC

Section 319(a) of the Act reduces the required period of continuous residence within the United States from five years to three years and accordingly the required period of physical presence is reduced from 30 months to 18 months for any LPR who is the spouse of a USC.

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Physical presence counts all the days you were actually inside the US.

Continuous residence counts the time on the calendar since you last came to the US permanently (and/or last returned to the US from a break in continuous residence) until today.

Generally, the physical presence requirement is half of the continuous residence requirement. So if married to and living with a US Citizen, you've got a 3 year continuous residence requirement, and an 18 month physical presence requirement.

Because most people spend most of their time at home, and only take occasional vacations abroad, most people who meet the continuous residence requirement don't have to worry much about the physical presence requirement. But, for example, if you worked on a cruise ship or something like that where you spent three weeks of every month away from home and out of the US, then the physical presence requirement might be a problem for you, even though you had more than enough continuous residence time.

04 Apr, 2004: Got married

05 Apr, 2004: I-130 Sent to CSC

13 Apr, 2004: I-130 NOA 1

19 Apr, 2004: I-129F Sent to MSC

29 Apr, 2004: I-129F NOA 1

13 Aug, 2004: I-130 Approved by CSC

28 Dec, 2004: I-130 Case Complete at NVC

18 Jan, 2005: Got the visa approved in Caracas

22 Jan, 2005: Flew home together! CCS->MIA->SFO

25 May, 2005: I-129F finally approved! We won't pursue it.

8 June, 2006: Our baby girl is born!

24 Oct, 2006: Window for filing I-751 opens

25 Oct, 2006: I-751 mailed to CSC

18 Nov, 2006: I-751 NOA1 received from CSC

30 Nov, 2006: I-751 Biometrics taken

05 Apr, 2007: I-751 approved, card production ordered

23 Jan, 2008: N-400 sent to CSC via certified mail

19 Feb, 2008: N-400 Biometrics taken

27 Mar, 2008: Naturalization interview notice received (NOA2 for N-400)

30 May, 2008: Naturalization interview, passed the test!

17 June, 2008: Naturalization oath notice mailed

15 July, 2008: Naturalization oath ceremony!

16 July, 2008: Registered to vote and applied for US passport

26 July, 2008: US Passport arrived.

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Physical presence counts all the days you were actually inside the US.

Continuous residence counts the time on the calendar since you last came to the US permanently (and/or last returned to the US from a break in continuous residence) until today.

Generally, the physical presence requirement is half of the continuous residence requirement. So if married to and living with a US Citizen, you've got a 3 year continuous residence requirement, and an 18 month physical presence requirement.

Because most people spend most of their time at home, and only take occasional vacations abroad, most people who meet the continuous residence requirement don't have to worry much about the physical presence requirement. But, for example, if you worked on a cruise ship or something like that where you spent three weeks of every month away from home and out of the US, then the physical presence requirement might be a problem for you, even though you had more than enough continuous residence time.

Great! That really clears it up. Thanks!

  • 2 years later...
Filed: Country: Bosnia-Herzegovina
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Please help.

My husband applied I130 for me. He is GC holder...In last 5 years he made a lot of stay abroad but he is GC holder for more than 10 years.

His physical presence in USA is like this :

2007 - 12 months

2008 - less than 1 month

2009 - 1 month

2010 - 2,5 months

2011 - 8 months

So it is appx 25 months of physical presence in USA.

In order to catch for missing 6 months to have 30 months out of 5 years we will have to wait till June 2013.

Do you think that maybe he should apply for citizenship now and risk a little bit???

Is there something to lose with try?

Has anyone get on with case like ours... After all he was GC holder for more than 10 years and before 2008 he never left USA NOT EVEN FOR A DAY :(.

Thanx!

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Mexico
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Perhaps I was a bit more conservative, but I looked at it in this way. Every day outside the US didn't count for my wife's "physical residence". So, 33 days outside of the country to me meant she needed 3 years and 33 days of continual residence to qualify. Perhaps that is the wrong view, but it made me secure in the fact that no one could question it.

Of course, we ended up not filing until after the 5 year mark anyway. Oh well!

I-485 (Adjustment of Status)

09-03-05: Package mailed to Chicago (I-130, I-485, I-765, and I-131)

09-05-05: (Day 000) Package received in Chicago

09-09-05: (Day 004) NOA1

10-22-05: (Day 047) AOS/EAD Biometrics Done

11-15-05: (Day 073) EAD Arrived

11-17-05: (Day 075) AP Arrived

12-07-05: (Day 094) AOS Interview Letter Arrives

01-25-06: (Day 143) AOS Approved!!!

02-02-06: (Day 151) Welcome to America Letter Arrives

02-06-06: (Day 155) Green Card Arrived!!!

I-751 (Removal of conditions)

10-29-07: Package Sent

10-31-07: (Day 000) Package Received at VSC

11-02-07: (Day 002) NOA1

12-20-07: (Day 050) Biometrics

09-03-08: (Day 308) Touched

09-09-08: (Day 314) I-751 Approved!!!

N-400 (Naturalization)

10-20-11: Package Sent

10-21-11: (Day 000) Package received in Phoenix

10-26-11: (Day 005) Check Cashed

10-28-11: (Day 007) NOA1

11-05-11: (Day 015) Biometrics Letter Arrives - Appointment on 11/15/11

11-10-11: (Day 020) Biometrics Completed

01-23-12: (Day 094) Interview Date

03-19-12: (Day 150) Oath Scheduled Notice

03-30-12: (Day 161) Oath Ceremony

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Posted (edited)

My husband applied I130 for me. He is GC holder...In last 5 years he made a lot of stay abroad but he is GC holder for more than 10 years.

Do you think that maybe he should apply for citizenship now and risk a little bit???

No.

Is there something to lose with try?

Yes, definitely $680 and possibly his Green Card.

After all he was GC holder for more than 10 years and before 2008 he never left USA NOT EVEN FOR A DAY

Then he should have filed before he moved back to Bosnia.

Edited by Brother Hesekiel

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

 
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