I need more education on halal foods

[Speeditup 0]

after reading many of these posts i was quite saddened. I realise that your other half is a muslim and maybe you are not, or you are new to islam and it may be difficult for you to understand or adjust to the halal meat topic. But in islam this is extremely important and if you love your other half surely you would care enough, not just be like "oh im sure he may change his mind when he sees meat at the supermarket is cheaper" or "he can find his own way to avoid the non-halal meat".

What a shame. Im sure if it was something really important in your life, you would want your spouse to be understanding, change things to make it easier for you and not expect you to go against your religion.

[LunaticFringe 0]

This is a very good book that has product names and information:

http://www.soundvision.com/Shop/pview.asp?Item=4335-001

Also try these sites:

http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1587...nimalfreed0a-20

http://www.soundvision.com/Info/halalhealthy/ingridient.asp

[illnevergetthis 5]

This is a very good book that has product names and information:

http://www.soundvision.com/Shop/pview.asp?Item=4335-001

Also try these sites:

http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1587...nimalfreed0a-20

http://www.soundvision.com/Info/halalhealthy/ingridient.asp

There are a lot of foods that will have markings on the container if the food is halal. There are many symbols, but the main three that I find are k, d, or u. If the food does not contain one of these letters, then I read the label. A lot of vitamins and pills contain gelatin, so I look for beef gelatin. I hope this helps with your label reading.

[sandinista! 1,816]

This is a very good book that has product names and information:

http://www.soundvision.com/Shop/pview.asp?Item=4335-001

Also try these sites:

http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1587...nimalfreed0a-20

http://www.soundvision.com/Info/halalhealthy/ingridient.asp

There are a lot of foods that will have markings on the container if the food is halal. There are many symbols, but the main three that I find are k, d, or u. If the food does not contain one of these letters, then I read the label. A lot of vitamins and pills contain gelatin, so I look for beef gelatin. I hope this helps with your label reading.

k, d, and u are NOT halal. k=kosher d=dairy, u, or ou=union of orthodox jewish congregation. (this food was supervised by them during its prep. ) oud=dairy, oum=meat.

[illnevergetthis 5]

This is a very good book that has product names and information:

http://www.soundvision.com/Shop/pview.asp?Item=4335-001

Also try these sites:

http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1587...nimalfreed0a-20

http://www.soundvision.com/Info/halalhealthy/ingridient.asp

There are a lot of foods that will have markings on the container if the food is halal. There are many symbols, but the main three that I find are k, d, or u. If the food does not contain one of these letters, then I read the label. A lot of vitamins and pills contain gelatin, so I look for beef gelatin. I hope this helps with your label reading.

k, d, and u are NOT halal. k=kosher d=dairy, u, or ou=union of orthodox jewish congregation. (this food was supervised by them during its prep. ) oud=dairy, oum=meat.

I am sorry, this was the way that it was explained to me. I just went to soundvision to look up the difference. I am now aware that the information that I was not correct. I am adding the link for others.

I appreciate that you let me know that I was wrong because I do not want to feed my husband anything that is haram, nor do I want to give other people bad information. It would have been nice if you had said it a little more diplomatically though.

[illnevergetthis 5]

Sorry, I forgot to post the link

http://www.soundvision.com/info/halalhealt...alal.kosher.asp

[doodlebugg 10]

My husband found out a week ago that the halal store that we sometimes go to sells only organic meat! I haven't ever bought meat from there before since we're not that strict. We just say bismillah before eating but now that I know the meat is ok and it's organic I might just try it out. Can't be anymore expensive than Whole Foods which is where I get our meat now!

[R and F 34]

Here in South Texas there are not any halal markets so Farid eats alot of fish which he loves. I eat whatever but Farid just hates me ordering a bacon cheeseburger (gee whiz) and just snickers at me when I am eating it.

[UmmSqueakster 54]

I happened upon the IFANCA magazine while browsing a zabiha consumer magazine who's name escapes me at present. While their food list isn't too helpful, since it seems most of the products are actually only sold in other countries, the magazine has a list of halal certified companies at the back that looks promising. Of course, not everything each of those companies sell is halal - we buy Cabot Creamry cheese, but there are a few of their products that aren't vegetarian/halal friendly. Their website goes into more details.

I am also happy to see that they list artificial/natural flavorings and colorings as a questionable ingredient. If we hadn't happen to sit across from a food scientist who worked for haagen daaz a few summers back, we wouldn't have known that they may contain alcohol.

Also, I don't remember if I've mentioned the site Green Zabiha before. They sell polyface farm meat *faints* Ok, so I'm a huge Michael Pollen fan and a natural food movement dork, so sue me. Interesting little tidbit from Green Zabiha:

Grain isn’t exactly cheap, and in an effort to find ways to feed animals more calories cheaply, Factory farms turned to protein rendering. Rendering takes meat scraps and waste products (carcasses, bones, fat, entrails, organs etc.) and through a process ‘renders’ it into liquefied edible protein.

So, back to our cows. The government allows cow feed to include

1. pork(!)
2. cow fat (!)
3. blood (!)
4. poultry and
5. horse to name a few things

Chicken: When I asked the Controlling Officer what the restrictions were on chicken feed, he chuckled and said ‘I don’t know of any real restrictions for poultry feed’. You can feed them ground up chicken, pork, beef, whatever. He mentioned in his State ‘we have large poultry processor and their chicken waste goes to rendering plant and most goes back to the processer for feeding the chickens’. So in the case of cows, we’ve turned a ruminate (grass feeder) into a meat eater, and the chicken into a cannibal (though the cow does get to eat cow fat). He did mentioned there were ‘only’ 9 or 10 drugs that can be given to poultry used for meat, and 3 for egg producing hens. And there is supposed to be a drug ‘withdrawal’ period, the poultry should be off the drugs for a time before going to slaughter. Who knows if that happens, probably hard to even detect or enforce.

[sandinista! 1,816]

I happened upon the IFANCA magazine while browsing a zabiha consumer magazine who's name escapes me at present. While their food list isn't too helpful, since it seems most of the products are actually only sold in other countries, the magazine has a list of halal certified companies at the back that looks promising. Of course, not everything each of those companies sell is halal - we buy Cabot Creamry cheese, but there are a few of their products that aren't vegetarian/halal friendly. Their website goes into more details.

I am also happy to see that they list artificial/natural flavorings and colorings as a questionable ingredient. If we hadn't happen to sit across from a food scientist who worked for haagen daaz a few summers back, we wouldn't have known that they may contain alcohol.

Also, I don't remember if I've mentioned the site Green Zabiha before. They sell polyface farm meat *faints* Ok, so I'm a huge Michael Pollen fan and a natural food movement dork, so sue me. Interesting little tidbit from Green Zabiha:

are there schools that consider ice cream and such questionable? i eat ice cream, bread, and organic gelatin free yogurt and keffir all the time without worry when i read this.

the incidental presence of (non-wine) alcohol for non-intoxicating purposes does not render food haram--if it is in an amount that doesn't intoxicate; isn't there as an intoxicant; and isn't consumed because of intoxication.

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=...74&CATE=239

and this.http://www.gmwa.org.uk/foodguide2/index.ph...tion&id=200

This is a very good book that has product names and information:

http://www.soundvision.com/Shop/pview.asp?Item=4335-001

Also try these sites:

http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1587...nimalfreed0a-20

http://www.soundvision.com/Info/halalhealthy/ingridient.asp

There are a lot of foods that will have markings on the container if the food is halal. There are many symbols, but the main three that I find are k, d, or u. If the food does not contain one of these letters, then I read the label. A lot of vitamins and pills contain gelatin, so I look for beef gelatin. I hope this helps with your label reading.

k, d, and u are NOT halal. k=kosher d=dairy, u, or ou=union of orthodox jewish congregation. (this food was supervised by them during its prep. ) oud=dairy, oum=meat.

I am sorry, this was the way that it was explained to me. I just went to soundvision to look up the difference. I am now aware that the information that I was not correct. I am adding the link for others.

I appreciate that you let me know that I was wrong because I do not want to feed my husband anything that is haram, nor do I want to give other people bad information. It would have been nice if you had said it a little more diplomatically though.

seriously? there was nothing undiplomatic about anything i wrote there.

[illnevergetthis 5]

k, d, and u are NOT halal. k=kosher d=dairy, u, or ou=union of orthodox jewish congregation. (this food was supervised by them during its prep. ) oud=dairy, oum=meat.

I am sorry, this was the way that it was explained to me. I just went to soundvision to look up the difference. I am now aware that the information that I was not correct. I am adding the link for others.

I appreciate that you let me know that I was wrong because I do not want to feed my husband anything that is haram, nor do I want to give other people bad information. It would have been nice if you had said it a little more diplomatically though.

seriously? there was nothing undiplomatic about anything i wrote there.

Ok...I took the capital NOT wrong...but, I do appreciate you letting me know! A friend from Turkey had told me a few years ago that it was halal and I had assumed that this information was correct...You know what they say about assuming...I have been trying to recall every person that I've given this bad information to...so that I can correct it.

[sandinista! 1,816]

no worries. some of the labels can be somewhat useful though. when you see the oum label for example, then you can know to avoid the product because it's telling you that it does contain meat. the parve label lets you know the product has never been in any contact with dairy or meat, at any time, which can be helpful too, so long as you know the product does not contain any wine, etc. so the labels aren't completely useless for the intents and purposes of this thread, they're just not a halal indicator.

[chaishai 1]

no worries. some of the labels can be somewhat useful though. when you see the oum label for example, then you can know to avoid the product because it's telling you that it does contain meat. the parve label lets you know the product has never been in any contact with dairy or meat, at any time, which can be helpful too, so long as you know the product does not contain any wine, etc. so the labels aren't completely useless for the intents and purposes of this thread, they're just not a halal indicator.

also, orthodox jews do not eat food with labels that are just K or D. OU is the primary label, or K with a full circle around it. there are others but those are the major ones.

[illnevergetthis 5]

no worries. some of the labels can be somewhat useful though. when you see the oum label for example, then you can know to avoid the product because it's telling you that it does contain meat. the parve label lets you know the product has never been in any contact with dairy or meat, at any time, which can be helpful too, so long as you know the product does not contain any wine, etc. so the labels aren't completely useless for the intents and purposes of this thread, they're just not a halal indicator.

Thank you!

[UmmSqueakster 54]

I happened upon the IFANCA magazine while browsing a zabiha consumer magazine who's name escapes me at present. While their food list isn't too helpful, since it seems most of the products are actually only sold in other countries, the magazine has a list of halal certified companies at the back that looks promising. Of course, not everything each of those companies sell is halal - we buy Cabot Creamry cheese, but there are a few of their products that aren't vegetarian/halal friendly. Their website goes into more details.

I am also happy to see that they list artificial/natural flavorings and colorings as a questionable ingredient. If we hadn't happen to sit across from a food scientist who worked for haagen daaz a few summers back, we wouldn't have known that they may contain alcohol.

Also, I don't remember if I've mentioned the site Green Zabiha before. They sell polyface farm meat *faints* Ok, so I'm a huge Michael Pollen fan and a natural food movement dork, so sue me. Interesting little tidbit from Green Zabiha:

are there schools that consider ice cream and such questionable? i eat ice cream, bread, and organic gelatin free yogurt and keffir all the time without worry when i read this.

Yes, according to your second link:

This is the view propounded by the Foodguide service and rest assured that it is of sound Hanafi scholarship. Nevertheless, if you are a follower of a Maz-hab (school of thought) apart from the Hanafi School or you prefer to refrain from such products then that is fine too. We will try to facilitate such persons by indicating which products are affected on this web-site as far as possible.

Shafi'i Ruling on alcohol based flavoring

As for flavorings dissolved in ethanol, the ethanol is added (with the flavoring that is dissolved in it) to the substance in Question. The insertion of the ethanol into the substance would then filthify it, making it haram to ingest, etc.