Salma Hayek breast-feeds an African baby

[justashooter 430]

Natural selection refers to biology. How has human biology been "Refined" through things like war, drought or famine?

psychiatric function and psychological predeliction are functions of human biology that may be affected by natural selection.

human biology has been refined in the generations in which anglos have lived in an industrialised, urban society. those that could adapt, did. those that could not, did not produce succesfully reproducing offspring.

people of a certain mindset function better in an industrial society than others, in the same way that peple of a certain mindset are more successful as hunter/gatherers. the character of a people can be changed by natural selection (succesful chain reproduction) in a matter of a few dozen generations.

[justashooter 430]

salma boobies...ftw!

Back on track.

gotta reply just for the pic. ain't saline grand?

[Marilyn. 340]

I am pretty sure her boobs are real...

[HAL 9000 96]

Natural selection refers to biology. How has human biology been "Refined" through things like war, drought or famine?

psychiatric function and psychological predeliction are functions of human biology that may be affected by natural selection.

human biology has been refined in the generations in which anglos have lived in an industrialised, urban society. those that could adapt, did. those that could not, did not produce succesfully reproducing offspring.

people of a certain mindset function better in an industrial society than others, in the same way that peple of a certain mindset are more successful as hunter/gatherers. the character of a people can be changed by natural selection (succesful chain reproduction) in a matter of a few dozen generations.

So are you now claiming that industrialization has served as an evolutionary pressure on human gene distribution?

Natural selection by definition is underwritten by those mutant genomes that serve a population within a species to increase their chances of passing their genes onto the next generation and by concentration, thereby increase the frequency by which those genes exist in the population.

What you are trying to describe are artificial factors that influence mate selection within artificial societal constructs. Not natural orders of adaptability.

I am pretty sure her boobs are real...

She's always had nice ones. And recently, she's been lactating. Yet another biological response to the female peri-natal state.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Natural selection refers to biology. How has human biology been "Refined" through things like war, drought or famine?

psychiatric function and psychological predeliction are functions of human biology that may be affected by natural selection.

human biology has been refined in the generations in which anglos have lived in an industrialised, urban society. those that could adapt, did. those that could not, did not produce succesfully reproducing offspring.

people of a certain mindset function better in an industrial society than others, in the same way that peple of a certain mindset are more successful as hunter/gatherers. the character of a people can be changed by natural selection (succesful chain reproduction) in a matter of a few dozen generations.

That's a paper-thin rationale, at best.

Didn't answer my question either.

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[Mononoke28 135]

Guys, guys, you're digressing AGAIN... Back to topic please just so Tavo can enjoy.

Thanks!

Diana

[panamania79 2]

salma boobies...ftw!

Back on track.

gotta reply just for the pic. ain't saline grand?

Her tetas are real.

[Ban Hammer 13,355]

salma boobies...ftw!

Back on track.

gotta reply just for the pic. ain't saline grand?

Her tetas are real.

tetas? those are tetons!

[slim 1,525]

Bring out the gimp!

Now that's putting people in boxes!

Surely - and after earning my bachelor's in behavior sciences, putting characteristics in boxes makes sense to me. I feel my education was sound as I can recognize many things simply cannot be explained away by compartmentalizing and stereotyping.

But hey - if thats where insight stops, poor boxed up individual.

Is "higher education" really necessary to realize that humans, the world over, may be the same species, but very different animals?

Natural selection refers to biology. How has human biology been "Refined" through things like war, drought or famine?

War, drought or famine could refine human biology if we'd allow it to do so. However, at this time in history (and probably the first time in history) we refuse to allow nature to take it's course when it comes to humans. "well slim, that's not nature, that's humans effecting other humans." You're right! But, guess what happens when the animals with the blue stripes eat all the food that the animals with the green stripes can no longer catch? The green ones die off and the blue ones become stronger! That is natural selection.

Why are we so afraid to let it happen with humans? Why do we feel compelled to "save" everyone?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Because (again) that isn't natural selection.

More than that "fear" isn't the reason we help refugees and victims of natural disasters.

[justashooter 430]

Because (again) that isn't natural selection.

More than that "fear" isn't the reason we help refugees and victims of natural disasters.

natural selection is the process of adaptation to pressure within the environment through the superior performance of those individuals posessing a peculiar characteristic. it doesn't matter if the pressure is created by change in weather, change in interspecies competition, or shift in thinking within a sentient species.

we are a part of nature, therefore, our actions are a form of natural selection. even hitler's final solution was a form of natural selection. as complex animals we have complex means of creating adaptive pressure within our species. sometimes these complex mechanisms take the form of abberant schema. the effect is the same.

Slim,

they just don't get it. they think that everybody is like them, and that if we all just got along, it would be kumbaya time. they refuse to acknowledge that realities different from their own can exist. it's a weakness of schema that cannot be corrected without severe privation.

let them go, except for the two hecklers. they are just here for fun, so they are fair game.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Because (again) that isn't natural selection.

More than that "fear" isn't the reason we help refugees and victims of natural disasters.

natural selection is the process of adaptation to pressure within the environment through the superior performance of those individuals posessing a peculiar characteristic. it doesn't matter if the pressure is created by change in weather, change in interspecies competition, or shift in thinking within a sentient species.

we are a part of nature, therefore, our actions are a form of natural selection. even hitler's final solution was a form of natural selection. as complex animals we have complex means of creating adaptive pressure within our species. sometimes these complex mechanisms take the form of abberant schema. the effect is the same.

Slim,

they just don't get it. they think that everybody is like them, and that if we all just got along, it would be kumbaya time. they refuse to acknowledge that realities different from their own can exist. it's a weakness of schema that cannot be corrected without severe privation.

let them go, except for the two hecklers. they are just here for fun, so they are fair game.

Firstly it refers to dominant hereditary biological traits - those traits being transmitted to successive generations.

The "only" valid example I can think of is of remote dwelling indigenous tribes being wiped out by contact with the wider world because their immune systems weren't developed enough to combat new diseases.

But to go back to your example - I'm wondering what was "biologically inferior" about European Jews that led directly to their destruction in the Holocaust.

If you want to use such reasoning to justify what are inherently evil ideas - go right ahead. I suspect that even the Nazis who misinterpreted Nietzches construct of the Ubermensche considered their point of view "interesting" and valid.

[justashooter 430]

Because (again) that isn't natural selection.

More than that "fear" isn't the reason we help refugees and victims of natural disasters.

natural selection is the process of adaptation to pressure within the environment through the superior performance of those individuals posessing a peculiar characteristic. it doesn't matter if the pressure is created by change in weather, change in interspecies competition, or shift in thinking within a sentient species.

we are a part of nature, therefore, our actions are a form of natural selection. even hitler's final solution was a form of natural selection. as complex animals we have complex means of creating adaptive pressure within our species. sometimes these complex mechanisms take the form of abberant schema. the effect is the same.

Slim,

they just don't get it. they think that everybody is like them, and that if we all just got along, it would be kumbaya time. they refuse to acknowledge that realities different from their own can exist. it's a weakness of schema that cannot be corrected without severe privation.

let them go, except for the two hecklers. they are just here for fun, so they are fair game.

Firstly it refers to dominant hereditary biological traits - those traits being transmitted to successive generations.

The "only" valid example I can think of is of remote dwelling indigenous tribes being wiped out by contact with the wider world because their immune systems weren't developed enough to combat new diseases.

But to go back to your example - I'm wondering what was "biologically inferior" about European Jews that led directly to their destruction in the Holocaust.

If you want to use such reasoning to justify what are inherently evil ideas - go right ahead. I suspect that even the Nazis who misinterpreted Nietzches construct of the Ubermensche considered their point of view "interesting" and valid.

the hereditability of the superior trait is implied.

your example is not valid.

superior traits are difficult to define, sometimes.

jews were but a fraction of those involved in the final solution.

the first canidates were physical and mental defectives (widely defined).

most of the balance were slavs, gypsies, armenians, poles, etc. people of less successful cultures, by most measures of the day.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Because (again) that isn't natural selection.

More than that "fear" isn't the reason we help refugees and victims of natural disasters.

natural selection is the process of adaptation to pressure within the environment through the superior performance of those individuals posessing a peculiar characteristic. it doesn't matter if the pressure is created by change in weather, change in interspecies competition, or shift in thinking within a sentient species.

we are a part of nature, therefore, our actions are a form of natural selection. even hitler's final solution was a form of natural selection. as complex animals we have complex means of creating adaptive pressure within our species. sometimes these complex mechanisms take the form of abberant schema. the effect is the same.

Slim,

they just don't get it. they think that everybody is like them, and that if we all just got along, it would be kumbaya time. they refuse to acknowledge that realities different from their own can exist. it's a weakness of schema that cannot be corrected without severe privation.

let them go, except for the two hecklers. they are just here for fun, so they are fair game.

Firstly it refers to dominant hereditary biological traits - those traits being transmitted to successive generations.

The "only" valid example I can think of is of remote dwelling indigenous tribes being wiped out by contact with the wider world because their immune systems weren't developed enough to combat new diseases.

But to go back to your example - I'm wondering what was "biologically inferior" about European Jews that led directly to their destruction in the Holocaust.

If you want to use such reasoning to justify what are inherently evil ideas - go right ahead. I suspect that even the Nazis who misinterpreted Nietzches construct of the Ubermensche considered their point of view "interesting" and valid.

the hereditability of the superior trait is implied.

your example is not valid.

superior traits are difficult to define, sometimes.

jews were but a fraction of those involved in the final solution.

the first canidates were physical and mental defectives (widely defined).

most of the balance were slavs, gypsies, armenians, poles, etc. people of less successful cultures, by most measures of the day.

Implied how?

BTW - the Holocaust wasn't my example - it was yours (my example was native indians).

[justashooter 430]

Because (again) that isn't natural selection.

More than that "fear" isn't the reason we help refugees and victims of natural disasters.

natural selection is the process of adaptation to pressure within the environment through the superior performance of those individuals posessing a peculiar characteristic. it doesn't matter if the pressure is created by change in weather, change in interspecies competition, or shift in thinking within a sentient species.

we are a part of nature, therefore, our actions are a form of natural selection. even hitler's final solution was a form of natural selection. as complex animals we have complex means of creating adaptive pressure within our species. sometimes these complex mechanisms take the form of abberant schema. the effect is the same.

Slim,

they just don't get it. they think that everybody is like them, and that if we all just got along, it would be kumbaya time. they refuse to acknowledge that realities different from their own can exist. it's a weakness of schema that cannot be corrected without severe privation.

let them go, except for the two hecklers. they are just here for fun, so they are fair game.

Firstly it refers to dominant hereditary biological traits - those traits being transmitted to successive generations.

The "only" valid example I can think of is of remote dwelling indigenous tribes being wiped out by contact with the wider world because their immune systems weren't developed enough to combat new diseases.

But to go back to your example - I'm wondering what was "biologically inferior" about European Jews that led directly to their destruction in the Holocaust.

If you want to use such reasoning to justify what are inherently evil ideas - go right ahead. I suspect that even the Nazis who misinterpreted Nietzches construct of the Ubermensche considered their point of view "interesting" and valid.

the hereditability of the superior trait is implied.

your example is not valid.

superior traits are difficult to define, sometimes.

jews were but a fraction of those involved in the final solution.

the first canidates were physical and mental defectives (widely defined).

most of the balance were slavs, gypsies, armenians, poles, etc. people of less successful cultures, by most measures of the day.

Implied how?

BTW - the Holocaust wasn't my example - it was yours (my example was native indians).

the "peculiar characteristic" is an implied hereditable trait.

your example was indians without disease resistance.

my answer was in regard to the question of the holocaust as an agent of natural selection.