Stimulus bill passes key Senate hurdle

[dalegg 143]

CNN Wire

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The Obama administration’s $827 billion economic stimulus plan has survived a key vote in the Senate, putting a compromise version of the bill on track for passage Tuesday.

What got cut?

Items Cut:

-- $3.5 billion for energy-efficient federal buildings (original bill was for $7 billion)

-- $75 million for Smithsonian (original bill was for $150 million)

-- $200 million for Superfund (original bill was for $800 million)

-- $100 million for National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (original bill was for $427 million)

-- $100 million for Law enforcement wireless (original bill was for $200 million)

-- $300 million for federal fleet of hybrid vehicles (original bill was for $600 million)

-- $100 million for FBI construction (original bill was for $400 million)

Items Fully Eliminated:

-- $55 million for historic preservation

-- $122 million for new Coast Guard polar icebreaker/cutters To top of page

[dalegg 143]

Full Cuts

Partially cut:

• $3.5 billion for energy-efficient federal buildings (original bill $7 billion)

• $75 million from Smithsonian (original bill $150 million)

• $200 million from Environmental Protection Agency Superfund (original bill $800 million)

• $100 million from National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (original bill $427 million)

• $100 million from law enforcement wireless (original bill $200 million)

• $300 million from federal fleet of hybrid vehicles (original bill $600 million)

• $100 million from FBI construction (original bill $400 million)

Fully eliminated

• $55 million for historic preservation

• $122 million for Coast Guard polar icebreaker/cutters

• $100 million for Farm Service Agency modernization

• $50 million for Cooperative State Research, Education and Extension Service

• $65 million for watershed rehabilitation

• $100 million for distance learning

• $98 million for school nutrition

• $50 million for aquaculture

• $2 billion for broadband

• $100 million for National Institute of Standards and Technology

• $50 million for detention trustee

• $25 million for Marshalls Construction

• $300 million for federal prisons

• $300 million for BYRNE Formula grant program

• $140 million for BYRNE Competitive grant program

• $10 million state and local law enforcement

• $50 million for NASA

• $50 million for aeronautics

• $50 million for exploration

• $50 million for Cross Agency Support

• $200 million for National Science Foundation

• $100 million for science

• $1 billion for Energy Loan Guarantees

• $4.5 billion for General Services Administration

• $89 million General Services Administration operations

• $50 million from Department of Homeland Security

• $200 million Transportation Security Administration

• $122 million for Coast Guard Cutters, modifies use

• $25 million for Fish and Wildlife

• $55 million for historic preservation

• $20 million for working capital fund

• $165 million for Forest Service capital improvement

• $90 million for State and Private Wildlife Fire Management

• $1 billion for Head Start/Early Start

• $5.8 billion for Health Prevention Activity

• $2 billion for Health Information Technology Grants

• $600 million for Title I (No Child Left Behind)

• $16 billion for school construction

• $3.5 billion for higher education construction

• $1.25 billion for project based rental

• $2.25 billion for Neighborhood Stabilization

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• $1.2 billion for retrofitting Project 8 housing

• $40 billion for state fiscal stabilization (includes $7.5 billion of state incentive grants)

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Good news. I hope they can get the money and projects flowing as quickly as possible.

[Ban Hammer 13,641]

ah, the pork barrel is overflowing still!

[one...two...tree 2,762]

ah, the pork barrel is overflowing still!

What do you think is unnecessary and should have been cut from the bill?

[Heracles 417]

Partially cut:

• $3.5 billion for energy-efficient federal buildings (original bill $7 billion)

• $75 million from Smithsonian (original bill $150 million)

• $100 million from law enforcement wireless (original bill $200 million)

• $300 million from federal fleet of hybrid vehicles (original bill $600 million)

• $100 million from FBI construction (original bill $400 million)

Fully eliminated

• $50 million for Cooperative State Research, Education and Extension Service

• $100 million for distance learning

• $2 billion for broadband

• $100 million for National Institute of Standards and Technology

• $50 million for detention trustee

• $25 million for Marshalls Construction

• $300 million for federal prisons

• $10 million state and local law enforcement

• $50 million for NASA

• $50 million for aeronautics

• $50 million for exploration

• $50 million for Cross Agency Support

• $200 million for National Science Foundation

• $100 million for science

• $4.5 billion for General Services Administration

• $89 million General Services Administration operations

• $50 million from Department of Homeland Security

• $200 million Transportation Security Administration

• $90 million for State and Private Wildlife Fire Management

• $1 billion for Head Start/Early Start

• $2 billion for Health Information Technology Grants

• $600 million for Title I (No Child Left Behind)

• $16 billion for school construction

• $3.5 billion for higher education construction

• $1.25 billion for project based rental

• $1.2 billion for retrofitting Project 8 housing

• $40 billion for state fiscal stabilization (includes $7.5 billion of state incentive grants)

Why the heck would you reduce or cut any of the above?

Oh I forgot tax cuts can only help the economy. Somehow cutting corporate taxes is going to magically stimulate the economy.

Edited February 10, 2009 by Aficionado

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Aficionado,

Republicans are stupid.

[Amby 490]

maybe they need to read the journal too

[dalegg 143]

Partially cut:

• $3.5 billion for energy-efficient federal buildings (original bill $7 billion)

• $75 million from Smithsonian (original bill $150 million)

• $100 million from law enforcement wireless (original bill $200 million)

• $300 million from federal fleet of hybrid vehicles (original bill $600 million)

• $100 million from FBI construction (original bill $400 million)

Fully eliminated

• $50 million for Cooperative State Research, Education and Extension Service

• $100 million for distance learning

• $2 billion for broadband

• $100 million for National Institute of Standards and Technology

• $50 million for detention trustee

• $25 million for Marshalls Construction

• $300 million for federal prisons

• $10 million state and local law enforcement

• $50 million for NASA

• $50 million for aeronautics

• $50 million for exploration

• $50 million for Cross Agency Support

• $200 million for National Science Foundation

• $100 million for science

• $4.5 billion for General Services Administration

• $89 million General Services Administration operations

• $50 million from Department of Homeland Security

• $200 million Transportation Security Administration

• $90 million for State and Private Wildlife Fire Management

• $1 billion for Head Start/Early Start

• $2 billion for Health Information Technology Grants

• $600 million for Title I (No Child Left Behind)

• $16 billion for school construction

• $3.5 billion for higher education construction

• $1.25 billion for project based rental

• $1.2 billion for retrofitting Project 8 housing

• $40 billion for state fiscal stabilization (includes $7.5 billion of state incentive grants)

Why the heck would you reduce or cut any of the above?

Oh I forgot tax cuts can only help the economy. Somehow cutting corporate taxes is going to magically stimulate the economy.

$100 million for "distance learning"?

$300 million for federal prisons

$600 million for Title I (No Child Left Behind)

for example

How are these Stimulus?

[Heracles 417]

$100 million for "distance learning"?

$300 million for federal prisons

$600 million for Title I (No Child Left Behind)

for example

How are these Stimulus?

These are long term investments. We need somewhere to house criminals. Distance education is a must for those in rural areas. Money for title one schools will help get the poor out of the ghetto and is a step towards switching them from feeding off welfare to paying into the system. In the future these skilled professionals will pay into the system rather than live off it.

[peejay 327]

What else got cut?

Provisions that would have mandated E-Verify for employers that get stimulus money.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

$100 million for "distance learning"?

$300 million for federal prisons

$600 million for Title I (No Child Left Behind)

for example

How are these Stimulus?

These are long term investments. We need somewhere to house criminals. Distance education is a must for those in rural areas. Money for title one schools will help get the poor out of the ghetto and is a step towards switching them from feeding off welfare to paying into the system. In the future these skilled professionals will pay into the system rather than live off it.

I Boo-yah right now.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Good news. I hope they can get the money and projects flowing as quickly as possible.

We need it desparately.

[dalegg 143]

$100 million for "distance learning"?

$300 million for federal prisons

$600 million for Title I (No Child Left Behind)

for example

How are these Stimulus?

These are long term investments. We need somewhere to house criminals. Distance education is a must for those in rural areas. Money for title one schools will help get the poor out of the ghetto and is a step towards switching them from feeding off welfare to paying into the system. In the future these skilled professionals will pay into the system rather than live off it.

I suppose that works if you are actually building prisons, but $300 million probably builds one or two.

Using the title 1 issue for stimulus is really just a way to try to sneak in something that is part of his social agenda. The stimulus package is supposed to "jolt" the economy quickly with "shovel ready" jobs. This is not accomplished with things like that.

[Heracles 417]

$100 million for "distance learning"?

$300 million for federal prisons

$600 million for Title I (No Child Left Behind)

for example

How are these Stimulus?

These are long term investments. We need somewhere to house criminals. Distance education is a must for those in rural areas. Money for title one schools will help get the poor out of the ghetto and is a step towards switching them from feeding off welfare to paying into the system. In the future these skilled professionals will pay into the system rather than live off it.

I suppose that works if you are actually building prisons, but $300 million probably builds one or two.

Using the title 1 issue for stimulus is really just a way to try to sneak in something that is part of his social agenda. The stimulus package is supposed to "jolt" the economy quickly with "shovel ready" jobs. This is not accomplished with things like that.

Hey coming from a welfare state I hated and loathed paying tax and the ease of welfare access. But now that I have seen the other extreme, I have to say that providing people with basic welfare so they can get on their feet is the key and it does work. Proof of that is Canada and Australia who have not had one bank failure. Who to this day are doing very well and much better than the average American. Sure there will be people who abuse the system but there will be more people who use this opportunity to improve and further their life. People who will ultimately give back to society and pay into the system rather than live off it. Some will say give them nothing, sure thing. Unfortunately you will have to spend 5 times the money in law enforcement and prisons. Either way you will spend money. The only difference is that in the first scenario it is a win win for all.

I would rather invest in an individual so they become good, honest, caring, educated and skilled tax payers who feed into the system rather than leave them poor living off the system. Social capitalism is the key and is successfully implemented in the nations who use it.

Edited February 10, 2009 by Aficionado