Failed Driving Test

[Jasman0717 9]

Claudeth needs to go take the written exam so she can get her learners permit

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

I've no chance of passing my test over there then

You can do it, just practice alot.

I know how your feel though. When I finally drove in the UK alone, I had to talk out loud to myself. Ok, when I turn this corner I'm going to go into that lane. This is a roundabout, I have to go round to the left. Once I'm on the roundabout, the lorry hauling it up on the next road is going to wait for me because I'm already on the roundabout, and he's not. It's bloody frightening!

[andana_dj 0]

He should be able to drive as a "visitor" on the UK license for a certain period of time. Texas allows 1 year.

But hopefully they gave him a sheet showing where he lost points so he can practice and go take it again. I vaguely remembered my driving test to give Nick pointers, like signal, look in the rearview mirror and look over your shoulder for the blind spot before turning or changing lanes. There were little things they expect on a driving test. Also we have a parallel parking part of the test. They always told us if you couldn't do it, just pull in and do it poorly and stop, because if you hit the pole or traffic cone representing the cars in front and back, they will fail you on that. Parking poorly will just take off some points. Hitting another car fails you. Also always take the test in an automatic transmission car because there's more to grade off dealing with the shifting too.

It's tough being on the other side of the car and other side of the road. You gotta flip your brain, sorta.

Nick passed because the lady liked his British accent.

Not really, he's been driving in the US on visits for several years, so he's had lots of practice.

Hey Nich-Nick....are you sure about Texas rule for using the foreign license up to 1 year? cause

as far as I know ....it is allowed to use your foreign driver license for up to 90 days after arrival in USA...after that it is required to get the US version.

I am going to move to Texas pretty soon too...so I was wondering about this topic too

Thanks

[Marzy 1]

So, my husband failed his driving test (we're in Wisconsin) and the instructor told me that now he has to apply for a learner's permit and is not permitted to drive anymore (unless it's with another licensed driver in the car) until he passes his driving test.

I find this stupid, to be honest. I won't rant too much here, I've done enough of that already.

The fact of the matter is, he NEEDS to get to work. So is this really true that he can't drive?? Anyone else have this experience?

Driving in Wisconsin with a foreign driver's license

Foreign motorists from any of the countries who are party to the United Nations Convention on Road Traffic (Geneva, 1949) or the Convention on the Regulation of Inter-American Motor Vehicle Traffic (Washington, D.C., 1943) who visit the United States as tourists can drive legally using their valid domestic driver's license for a period not to exceed one year from the date of arrival. They may drive either a personal or rental car.

Tourists from countries who are party to the Geneva Convention and the Regulation of Inter-American Motor Vehicle Traffic can also legally drive their own private cars bearing valid license plates/registration tags issued in their native country for a period not to exceed one year from their date of arrival.

Foreign tourists whose country is not among those that are party to the terms of either convention may be required to obtain a driver's license and secure license plates/registration tags upon arrival in the United States (U.S.).

Foreign students attending school in the U.S. who are at least 16 years old and their privilege to operate a motor vehicle in Wisconsin is not suspended, revoked, cancelled or disqualified, can drive with their home country's valid license for up to one year. After one year, they must meet the same licensing requirements as a Wisconsin resident.

In addition to having a valid foreign driver's license, visitors are advised to carry an International Driving Permit obtained in their home country, as authorized by the 1943/1949 or 1968 conventions, or attach an English translation to their national driving license. The International Driving Permit is translated into the nine official languages of the United Nations, including English, and serves as a translation to be used in conjunction with the visitor's valid driver's license. It can be useful in emergencies, such as traffic violations or auto accidents, particularly when a foreign language is involved.

Visitors from foreign countries must obtain their International Driving Permit in their native country prior to arrival in the U.S.

Source: http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/drivers/drive...ply/foreign.htm

Edited February 7, 2009 by S*J

[Mags 112]

Can I just reiterate that VJ does not condone anyone here breaking the law. If you don't have EAD you shouldn't be working and if you don't have a valid Drivers' License you shouldn't be driving.

Any encouragement of this by members here is a TOS violation.

[Kirsten UK 2]

I've no chance of passing my test over there then

You can do it, just practice alot.

I know how your feel though. When I finally drove in the UK alone, I had to talk out loud to myself. Ok, when I turn this corner I'm going to go into that lane. This is a roundabout, I have to go round to the left. Once I'm on the roundabout, the lorry hauling it up on the next road is going to wait for me because I'm already on the roundabout, and he's not. It's bloody frightening!

I don't think I have a choice, where i'm going theres no public transport so i'll just have to get used to the idea....I just hope I don't have to learn in a shared car with kids from school!!!

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

Hey Nich-Nick....are you sure about Texas rule for using the foreign license up to 1 year? cause

as far as I know ....it is allowed to use your foreign driver license for up to 90 days after arrival in USA...after that it is required to get the US version.

I am going to move to Texas pretty soon too...so I was wondering about this topic too

Thanks

Driving is determined by the state laws of where you are driving, so there could be 50 different sets of rules.

Here's the Texas link about using foreign license. It's a FAQ page and Out of Country License is almost at the end.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administratio...swers_dl_id.htm

Nick was given a TX license with his Social Security card, EAD card, and his passport

Can I just reiterate that VJ does not condone anyone here breaking the law. If you don't have EAD you shouldn't be working and if you don't have a valid Drivers' License you shouldn't be driving.

Any encouragement of this by members here is a TOS violation.

I don't understand. Who specifically is violating TOS? I didn't read anything encouraging breaking the law. Really. I'm not being argumentative with you. I just didn't see it. Can you explain?

[Mags 112]

Nich-Nick ~ the OP was told by the examiner that her hubby can't drive until he takes another test. Some people here are telling him to continue driving.

That's encouragement.

If he continues to drive, and gets caught, he's gonna get in trouble and no one here would have to suffer the consequences. It's easy to give advice on the internet, false or otherwise, because WE have no recompense.

He needs to just sit another test. He doesn't have to wait long, so I don't see what the issue is.

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

I missed STPs post kinda pointing that out. I get it now. But Damian is always wising off. He wouldn't really advocate breaking the law.

[Big Papa Zone 93]

I missed STPs post kinda pointing that out. I get it now. But Damian is always wising off.

He wouldn't really advocate breaking the law.

No, I wouldn't. Mags, let me put it another way: The OP's SO could quite legally drive on their UK licence whilst awaiting their U.S. one, provided the time limit on its expiry hasn't run out.

Now take the mod hat off, and join in with Uncle Daymo's fun time threads, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmkay???

[StillThePrettiest 3]

but saying you're only visiting when you're not is lying to a police officer; I don't know that there's any other way to put that

re the Texas laws about driving on a foreign license -

I have said in many threads now, be VERY careful... the law changed here recently, and people seem to be at different speeds with it, so I have been told all of the following:

1. I had to get a Texas license within 30 days of moving here, like anyone moving from another US state (was told this by a police officer, and two different constables when I rang for clarification)

2. I was allowed to drive on my Australian license for up to a year WITH an international driving permit (was told this by a sergeant at the DPS)

3. I had to get my I-94 'renewed' before I would be allowed to get a Texas license (was told this by two different women at two different DPSs)

4. I would have to wait for my permanent resident's card before I would be allowed to get a Texas license (was told this by one woman at the DPS)

5. I can drive on my Australian license for up to a year with no mention of an international driving permit (as per the official DPS website)

6. Someone VISITING Texas can drive on a reciprocal foreign license for up to a year, but someone relocating there has to get a Texas license within 30 days, it doesn't matter if they're relocating from another US state or a foreign country (a different Texas govt website, forget which one, but I have the address somewhere)

7. I had to get a Texas license, but it was easy: take passport, SSN, wedding certificate as proof of name change, and $24 to my local DPS office, and I would be allowed to exchange my Australian license for a Texas one; no test required (was told this by someone on the official DPS hotline advertised on their website; a real live person, not a recording)

8. I might be allowed to get my Texas license with my EAD card, but would have to do both the written and practical tests (different woman at the first DPS)

...do you get the idea?

the upshot of all of which is, all my research did not stop me getting cited for 'failing to obtain a Texas license within 30 days' when stopped by a police officer; he had never heard of the one year thing, did not want to know, and neither did anyone at his station

which is why I shall be appearing in court next month to deal with it...

I think the truth of the matter is that 5, above, is correct, but expecting anyone to actually KNOW about that is another issue entirely... and quite apart from the hassles I've had, it could have ramifications for insurance, if you should have an accident, and who knows what else

Edited February 8, 2009 by StillThePrettiest

[Old Dominion 26]

So, my husband failed his driving test (we're in Wisconsin) and the instructor told me that now he has to apply for a learner's permit and is not permitted to drive anymore (unless it's with another licensed driver in the car) until he passes his driving test.

I find this stupid, to be honest. I won't rant too much here, I've done enough of that already.

The fact of the matter is, he NEEDS to get to work. So is this really true that he can't drive?? Anyone else have this experience?

So, then go and get the learner's permit and retake the test the next day, if he's capable of getting it right. As Beadle Bumble wrote, "the law is an ####, an idiot." This is out of English legal history.

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

STP--so did you get a license yet? You were here before the Oct.1 change so you could have gotten one with a SSN.

Heard alot of those. They don't get it that a K1 can't possibly get a license within 30 days or renew their visa. They've never even heard of a K1. And I kinda think a K1 is somewhat of a visitor until they get some kind of approval. If you're not a Lawful Permanent Resident yet then it's a bit like visiting since you are a British Citizen in K1 limbo land.

Here's the link in DPS FAQ you can take to court with you. It should come up with the pertinent item at the top. If not, it's way near the bottom of the whole FAQ. http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administratio...s_dl_id.htm#q51

Out-of-Country Driver License

1) How long can I drive with an out-of-country driver license?

Generally, a person 18 to 75 years of age with a valid out-of-country driver license in their possession may drive a private, non-commercial motor vehicle in the State of Texas for up to one year from date of entry into the United States, if their home country has reciprocity with the U.S.

The international driving permit is really just a small booklet of translations into foreign languages, your license info, to help the officer understand a license in a different language. It has no legal authority. I got one to drive from the UK to Prague. Not really useful here for a license from an English speaking country.

Your #8 is what Nick did. Passed both tests and done in 45 minutes.

Insurance. My agent told me twice. "Don't add Nick until he has a driver's license. In Texas the car is insured, not the driver. If you give him permission to drive your car, it is insured." Quite different in the UK from what I understand. It is true because my daughter's boyfriend had a wreck in her car, which was in my name and under my insurance. State Farm covered all the damages with no questions. I did add Nick the day after he got his temporary paper license.

Edited February 8, 2009 by Nich-Nick

[Stinky Monkey 1]

Ok now I am seriously stressing about moving to Texas and my driving license, I feel sick about it..............this is so unfair

Well I suppose I will have to just deal with it when I get there, but I am not at all happy about it

I wonder if Todd will move to another state

[Big Papa Zone 93]

but saying you're only visiting when you're not is lying to a police officer; I don't know that there's any other way to put that

Nich said:

"And I kinda think a K1 is somewhat of a visitor until they get some kind of approval. If you're not a Lawful Permanent Resident yet then it's a bit like visiting since you are a British Citizen in K1 limbo land."

What Nich said.