would you live in your fiancee's country?

[K1researcher 0]

You can find work in russia, just like russian immigrants find work in USA. How difficult it is for you to find work would depend on:

1. Your level of education

2. If you have any specialities

3. and Most important, who you know.

I emphasis 3, because if you move to russia as a single man... not knowing anyone, I would be inclined to say your chances of finding a job are more difficult. But if you have family over there who could help you find work, your chances have increased.

Maybe I am wrong in what I am about to say, but as far as what I can see from visiting my fiancee, but it seems that a lot of russian business is done by with the, "You scratch my back and I'll scratch your back' mentality. So, if you have family (your fiance and her family) over there when you move, they can help you to find a job, because at some point in time, somewhere in the past, someone probably owes a family member a favor.

Plus, beggers can not be choosers. I work in a physical capacity now at my current job with Coca-Cola, so the idea of working in a warehouse or doing some form of physical, or intensive physical labor work is okay with me, that would otherwise be turned down by another person because they are used to working in an office setting.

And as time went on, I would gradually master the russian language the best an immigrant could do. I would eventually become a citizen (3 years after marrying my fiance) and I would eventually return to school. Which would eventually lead me to a better job in the future.

But, you have to start somewhere... and that somewhere might be a pretty un-desirable job. But, whatever it takes to keep the family together... be it here in the USA or in Russia.

Nick

It's actually not quite that simple. Many jobs in Russia require citizenship, and are only open to those in a certain age range--usually under 30. Want to work in a clothing store? Sorry, but unless you're under 30 and a citizen, you're probably out of luck. Says so right on the advertisement for the job. And why would a Russian company want to provide visa support to an American citizen if there are Russians who can do the job? Your options are pretty much teaching, working for a foreign company in some capacity, and freelance work.

And sure, there are physical labor jobs open to immigrant workers... but these all go to laborers from the Caucacuses/Central Asia who do these jobs for wages that Russians would not accept.

this is dead on the problem. If you do not have a specialized skill they will not offer visa support. Bu even then they are allowed national discrimination (something I support) and will almost always give jobs to Russian over immigrants. Even as a citizen you would need a specialized background to secure a good job.

[ndalessandro 0]

You can find work in russia, just like russian immigrants find work in USA. How difficult it is for you to find work would depend on:

1. Your level of education

2. If you have any specialities

3. and Most important, who you know.

I emphasis 3, because if you move to russia as a single man... not knowing anyone, I would be inclined to say your chances of finding a job are more difficult. But if you have family over there who could help you find work, your chances have increased.

Maybe I am wrong in what I am about to say, but as far as what I can see from visiting my fiancee, but it seems that a lot of russian business is done by with the, "You scratch my back and I'll scratch your back' mentality. So, if you have family (your fiance and her family) over there when you move, they can help you to find a job, because at some point in time, somewhere in the past, someone probably owes a family member a favor.

Plus, beggers can not be choosers. I work in a physical capacity now at my current job with Coca-Cola, so the idea of working in a warehouse or doing some form of physical, or intensive physical labor work is okay with me, that would otherwise be turned down by another person because they are used to working in an office setting.

And as time went on, I would gradually master the russian language the best an immigrant could do. I would eventually become a citizen (3 years after marrying my fiance) and I would eventually return to school. Which would eventually lead me to a better job in the future.

But, you have to start somewhere... and that somewhere might be a pretty un-desirable job. But, whatever it takes to keep the family together... be it here in the USA or in Russia.

Nick

It's actually not quite that simple. Many jobs in Russia require citizenship, and are only open to those in a certain age range--usually under 30. Want to work in a clothing store? Sorry, but unless you're under 30 and a citizen, you're probably out of luck. Says so right on the advertisement for the job. And why would a Russian company want to provide visa support to an American citizen if there are Russians who can do the job? Your options are pretty much teaching, working for a foreign company in some capacity, and freelance work.

And sure, there are physical labor jobs open to immigrant workers... but these all go to laborers from the Caucacuses/Central Asia who do these jobs for wages that Russians would not accept.

They would hire an immigrant for the same reason why american companies hire immigrants. They can pay them less money, than they could a naturalized citizen.

And who is talking about visa support? I stated if you were a single man, wanting to re-locate to Russia with no friends or family waiting for you over there, certainly it would be much more difficult. But if you move to russia and your wife and her family are over there to assist you... than it makes it easier for you.

My fiancee, because of the connections she has made as a Lawyer for the government has already told me she could most likely find me a job teaching somewhere, at first. That is definitely the benefit of having friends and family over there helping you. There are other ways to work in Russia beside the work visa, such as obtaining a Temp. Resident or Perm. Residence. See rules concerning Application for Temp. Residency:

"certain categories of foreign citizens are not subject to the quota, including, foreign citizens previously citizens of the USSR; foreigners married to Russians residing in Russia; and foreign investors making investments of a magnitude yet to be established. "

In any event, if you were to move to be beside your fiancee, I would recommend saving up money first, to help sustain yourself during the waiting period of finding a job eventually. You certainly do not want to become a burden on your fiancee, if she has to work to support herself.. and now you.

But again, if you were a single guy, not knowing anyone or anything, than yea, I agree with you and good luck, haha

[Brad and Vika 129]

[eekee 182]

You can find work in russia, just like russian immigrants find work in USA. How difficult it is for you to find work would depend on:

1. Your level of education

2. If you have any specialities

3. and Most important, who you know.

I emphasis 3, because if you move to russia as a single man... not knowing anyone, I would be inclined to say your chances of finding a job are more difficult. But if you have family over there who could help you find work, your chances have increased.

Maybe I am wrong in what I am about to say, but as far as what I can see from visiting my fiancee, but it seems that a lot of russian business is done by with the, "You scratch my back and I'll scratch your back' mentality. So, if you have family (your fiance and her family) over there when you move, they can help you to find a job, because at some point in time, somewhere in the past, someone probably owes a family member a favor.

Plus, beggers can not be choosers. I work in a physical capacity now at my current job with Coca-Cola, so the idea of working in a warehouse or doing some form of physical, or intensive physical labor work is okay with me, that would otherwise be turned down by another person because they are used to working in an office setting.

And as time went on, I would gradually master the russian language the best an immigrant could do. I would eventually become a citizen (3 years after marrying my fiance) and I would eventually return to school. Which would eventually lead me to a better job in the future.

But, you have to start somewhere... and that somewhere might be a pretty un-desirable job. But, whatever it takes to keep the family together... be it here in the USA or in Russia.

Nick

It's actually not quite that simple. Many jobs in Russia require citizenship, and are only open to those in a certain age range--usually under 30. Want to work in a clothing store? Sorry, but unless you're under 30 and a citizen, you're probably out of luck. Says so right on the advertisement for the job. And why would a Russian company want to provide visa support to an American citizen if there are Russians who can do the job? Your options are pretty much teaching, working for a foreign company in some capacity, and freelance work.

And sure, there are physical labor jobs open to immigrant workers... but these all go to laborers from the Caucacuses/Central Asia who do these jobs for wages that Russians would not accept.

They would hire an immigrant for the same reason why american companies hire immigrants. They can pay them less money, than they could a naturalized citizen.

And who is talking about visa support? I stated if you were a single man, wanting to re-locate to Russia with no friends or family waiting for you over there, certainly it would be much more difficult. But if you move to russia and your wife and her family are over there to assist you... than it makes it easier for you.

My fiancee, because of the connections she has made as a Lawyer for the government has already told me she could most likely find me a job teaching somewhere, at first. That is definitely the benefit of having friends and family over there helping you. There are other ways to work in Russia beside the work visa, such as obtaining a Temp. Resident or Perm. Residence. See rules concerning Application for Temp. Residency:

"certain categories of foreign citizens are not subject to the quota, including, foreign citizens previously citizens of the USSR; foreigners married to Russians residing in Russia; and foreign investors making investments of a magnitude yet to be established. "

In any event, if you were to move to be beside your fiancee, I would recommend saving up money first, to help sustain yourself during the waiting period of finding a job eventually. You certainly do not want to become a burden on your fiancee, if she has to work to support herself.. and now you.

But again, if you were a single guy, not knowing anyone or anything, than yea, I agree with you and good luck, haha

Well, there is temporary residency if you are married, BUT temporary residency is NOT equivalent with being a Russian citizen and therefore many jobs will be closed to you. Hiring an American immigrant would not be considered cheaper than hiring a Russian, even you already had a temp residency permit. Hiring an immigrant from Central Asia or the Caucauses? Sure, that'd be cheaper. But I doubt that a company would look at American and think that they would accept lower wages than a Russian. It's hard enough convincing Russian real estate agents that you don't need to live in a 2,000 euro/month apartment, let alone that you'd work for 100 r/hr.

Getting a job teaching English while you're already there is as easy as sending an email to school saying you're a native speaker. It's not like you need "connections."

And if you don't speak fluent Russian and/or are over 30... well, good luck!!

Edited February 8, 2009 by eekee

[slim 1,530]

So what jobs would you guys work?

About the only successful gigs I've heard of Americans doing over there are webdesign/IT-related, American companies or photojournalists. Not much else over there for fat lazy people who arent accustomed to getting their hands dirty.

I'd love to go be a cabbie! Or Okhranik! I could see myself as a flat-head with the leather coat and earpiece driving around a $50000 SUV with some 15-year-old oil heiress in the back. (AK under my coat, fine cigars, roll of $100 bills.... such a hard life.)

My wife said I should be a dvornik. HA!

[Danno 1,228]

Interesting enough,

As I am trying to figure out what I need to do to get my MIL a visa for a visit, I was on the embasy website (for Russia) and they have a "jobs available" section there, with a number of slots open.

[ndalessandro 0]

So what jobs would you guys work?

About the only successful gigs I've heard of Americans doing over there are webdesign/IT-related, American companies or photojournalists. Not much else over there for fat lazy people who arent accustomed to getting their hands dirty.

I'd love to go be a cabbie! Or Okhranik! I could see myself as a flat-head with the leather coat and earpiece driving around a $50000 SUV with some 15-year-old oil heiress in the back. (AK under my coat, fine cigars, roll of $100 bills.... such a hard life.)

My wife said I should be a dvornik. HA!

I work as an Account specialist for Coca-Cola. Basically, I go into large store formats (Walmart, Publix, Costco, ect) order product for the store and work the product.

It is a very physically intensive job. But I like it. Pulling around pallets that weight 2500 lbs help keep you in shape, especially your legs. I would say on a daily basis, I probably end up moving between 10,000-20,000 lbs with my arms and back everyday.

Call me crazy, but I like doing physical work. Than again, Im only 28. When I'm 48, I'll probably be wishing I worked behind a desk HAHAHA.

Nick

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Interesting enough,

As I am trying to figure out what I need to do to get my MIL a visa for a visit, I was on the embasy website (for Russia) and they have a "jobs available" section there, with a number of slots open.

I worked in Russia (Sakhalin Island) back in 2002 for "VECO" before it was bought out by CH2mhill...the link below. They are usually always hiring.

Down below is a few more outfits that have work over in Russia....all of them usually sub for BP, Shell, etc....although ASRC is doing some work for Gazprom atm. A good thing about working out of country is if you work outside the US for over a year, you don't pay taxes to the feds....always a plus, although you don't get credit for any of that money towards your Soc Sec.

http://www.ch2m.com/corporate/worldwide/russia.asp

http://www.udelhoveninternational.com/companies/index.html

Oh and would I live in Belarus....or Russia? Only if my life depended on it, otherwise no way in h*ll.