Anyone with Fiance who's a Canadian Citizen...

[bailey's mommy 0]

Hello,

As the topic mentions, my fiance is a Canadian citizen, but he wasn't born in Canada. We don't have NOA2 yet, but our timeline says it's coming soon! (ha!) I am working on getting Packet 3 together and when it comes to the birth certificate I was wondering if I am to just have his from the country he's from no matter what, or do I also need to bring other evidence proving his citizenship. I guess what I am asking is, are they looking to see that he "exist" sort of speak, or that he is a Canadian. Thanks in advance!

[Krikit 1,165]

Hi. I'm a naturalized Canadian citizen (aka not born there) and went through the K-1 process. He will need his birth certificate as well as his Canadian citizenship document.

[bailey's mommy 0]

Great! Thanks so much for your help!

[Danu 19]

Hey Krit, do you know if just the card will work? I don't have any of the long form paperwork because I'm not naturalized, I got mine through birth, but I wasn't born here so I figure they will still want to see my card (like everyone does) especially cuz my BC is from Germany (and not one of the bases)

[antda 13]

Hi Bailey's Mommy,

I don't know about the K1/K3/CR/IR processes, as I've never been through them (I went from Visitor to AOS processes). However, I can tell you that I'm a "naturalized Canadian" and "soon to be naturalized American" too. For immigration purposes (and for other purposes) in regards to birth-certificate and identification issues, I've just provide the following documents: Canadian Passport, Canadian Naturalization/Citizenship Card (it works kind of like a Canadian birth certificate, so I've heard), foreign Birth Certificate (which I would rather just rip to shreads, as I don't have citizenship to this country and I'm not associated with, and am tired of being mistaken for association with it). Lol...and for humour's sake, I usually also throw in my US Green Card (and NOA letter for the I-751), US Driver's license, US Marriage Certificate, SSN. and whatever else I can think of...So let's see..that's about 7-8 and more pieces of identification that I have to carry with me, just to prove that I'm "Canadian and American". And when asked, I just explain the whole long-winded story, and make lots of paperwork photocopies, even if it takes awhile on all sides/ends....

The bottom line is: Have your fiance show as much as identification and documentation as they can to prove who they are when it comes to evidence of (Canadian) citizenship and/or residency, and just include a foreign birth certificate anyways. The immigration officials cannot use the information of being a "naturalized Canadian" against them, especially if they have legal proof of their Canadian citizenship and are indeed Canadian! The more paperwork you have, the better!

Hope this helps. Good luck with the rest of your immigration journey too!

Ant (Still waiting at the VSC for the I-751, Still waiting for Baby...)

Hello,

As the topic mentions, my fiance is a Canadian citizen, but he wasn't born in Canada. We don't have NOA2 yet, but our timeline says it's coming soon! (ha!) I am working on getting Packet 3 together and when it comes to the birth certificate I was wondering if I am to just have his from the country he's from no matter what, or do I also need to bring other evidence proving his citizenship. I guess what I am asking is, are they looking to see that he "exist" sort of speak, or that he is a Canadian. Thanks in advance!

Edited February 2, 2009 by AntandD

[Krikit 1,165]

Hey Krit, do you know if just the card will work? I don't have any of the long form paperwork because I'm not naturalized, I got mine through birth, but I wasn't born here so I figure they will still want to see my card (like everyone does) especially cuz my BC is from Germany (and not one of the bases)

Gosh, I don't know, Danu. Are you talking about a citizenship card? I just sent them my long form certificate since I don't have a card.

The bottom line is: Have your fiance show as much as identification and documentation as they can to prove who they are when it comes to evidence of (Canadian) citizenship and/or residency, and just include a foreign birth certificate anyways. The immigration officials cannot use the information of being a "naturalized Canadian" against them, especially if they have legal proof of their Canadian citizenship and are indeed Canadian! The more paperwork you have, the better!

Not necessarily, Ant. All that's required is what they ask for. And all that they ask for is the citizenship and birth certificate.... and the passport, of course.

[trailmix 77]

I agree with krikit, why would you send them stuff they haven't asked for, to dazzle them with paperwork? I would suspect it would have the opposite effect, imagine if you worked at USCIS or NVC and instead of someone sending the documents you requested they sent you 10 pieces of unwanted paper. They are people too and just doing a job - how would feel if it was your job

Edited February 2, 2009 by trailmix

[antda 13]

Hi Everyone,

I think that one should at least give them the minimum paperwork/documentation that immigration and/or other officials require and ask for. However, to avoid further problems, if one has more paperwork that they can use to support their side/story, by all means, provide it anyways "just in case". "Better safe than sorry", right? And if they get bogged down with paperwork...too bad....that's part of their job, to go through all that paperwork and approve the cases accordingly based on all the evidence provided....

Ant

Edited February 2, 2009 by AntandD

[Krikit 1,165]

I agree, that one should at least give them the minimum paperwork/documentation that immigration and/or other officials require and ask for. However, to avoid further problems, if one has more paperwork that they can use to support their side/story, by all means, provide it anyways "just in case". "Better safe than sorry", right?

Ant

No. There is nothing to support when you have given them what they have requested. If they decide at some point that they don't believe you are a Canadian citizen.... even though you have provided evidence of Canadian citizenship, they will inform you.

[Danu 19]

yeah Krit, just the card. I never had any long paperwork like my mom did because I got it though birth because of my dad (I love dealing with 3 countries when I do anything now lol). Ah well, I guess my card will have to suffice as I have nothing else, if they ask for it at all.

[bailey's mommy 0]

Hi Bailey's Mommy,

I don't know about the K1/K3/CR/IR processes, as I've never been through them (I went from Visitor to AOS processes). However, I can tell you that I'm a "naturalized Canadian" and "soon to be naturalized American" too. For immigration purposes (and for other purposes) in regards to birth-certificate and identification issues, I've just provide the following documents: Canadian Passport, Canadian Naturalization/Citizenship Card (it works kind of like a Canadian birth certificate, so I've heard), foreign Birth Certificate (which I would rather just rip to shreads, as I don't have citizenship to this country and I'm not associated with, and am tired of being mistaken for association with it). Lol...and for humour's sake, I usually also throw in my US Green Card (and NOA letter for the I-751), US Driver's license, US Marriage Certificate, SSN. and whatever else I can think of...So let's see..that's about 7-8 and more pieces of identification that I have to carry with me, just to prove that I'm "Canadian and American". And when asked, I just explain the whole long-winded story, and make lots of paperwork photocopies, even if it takes awhile on all sides/ends....

The bottom line is: Have your fiance show as much as identification and documentation as they can to prove who they are when it comes to evidence of (Canadian) citizenship and/or residency, and just include a foreign birth certificate anyways. The immigration officials cannot use the information of being a "naturalized Canadian" against them, especially if they have legal proof of their Canadian citizenship and are indeed Canadian! The more paperwork you have, the better!

Hope this helps. Good luck with the rest of your immigration journey too!

Ant (Still waiting at the VSC for the I-751, Still waiting for Baby...)

Hello,

As the topic mentions, my fiance is a Canadian citizen, but he wasn't born in Canada. We don't have NOA2 yet, but our timeline says it's coming soon! (ha!) I am working on getting Packet 3 together and when it comes to the birth certificate I was wondering if I am to just have his from the country he's from no matter what, or do I also need to bring other evidence proving his citizenship. I guess what I am asking is, are they looking to see that he "exist" sort of speak, or that he is a Canadian. Thanks in advance!

LOL wow, that's a lot of paperwork. Thanks for the help!

[bailey's mommy 0]

Thanks to everyone and their input. I'll definitely give the minimum amount of evidence, as it's not necessary, and I don't need to stress out over getting them either. It's just more work on my side and theirs.