Netherlands

[JeroenAndMichelle 28]

i also miss to speak dutch. Sometimes I get lucky and get a Dutch tourist in the store and I can talk story for a bit, but yeah not much Dutchies on Maui

I should be on your neighbor rock in about 3-4 months I think, so I might drop by some time ^^

edit: btw, this reminds me.. last year when I was on Oahu, we went to PCC one day and attended a luau there and guess what.. there's like hundreds of people there and out of all people I am sitting next to a Dutch couple who had their honeymoon there haha, talk about a coincidence.

Thanks Jeroen! : ) It indeed does... and now comes the hard part -> disposing of most of my worldly possessions... Marktplaats and Speuders here I come ; ) Good luck on your journey!

Thanks and yeah, I know what you mean... I started to get rid of my belongings bit by bit, sorting things out that I don't want to have anymore and putting them on Ebay and Marktplaats, sending stuff from time to time to my new home and so on. It's mostly stuff I could live very well without, just in case

But yeah, I took a few looks around my place last weekend and started to feel a bit sad when I saw some stuff which wont be able to bring along. It is indeed a very hard part of the journey :/

Edited June 9, 2008 by JeroenAndMichelle

[jackybeertje 0]

I should be on your neighbor rock in about 3-4 months I think, so I might drop by some time ^^

And i will probably hop to your rock from time to time as well. Think i will get some jewelry partys to do there. And ofcourse when i need my shopping fix ;-)

[JeroenAndMichelle 28]

I should be on your neighbor rock in about 3-4 months I think, so I might drop by some time ^^

And i will probably hop to your rock from time to time as well. Think i will get some jewelry partys to do there. And ofcourse when i need my shopping fix ;-)

Hehe good... I'm glad it wont be the last time for me that I'll hear some Dutch around me when I move there xD

...speaking of which, how come we all speak in English in this thread? I've noticed they speak their own lingo in some of the other country threads..

[darkhorse 0]

hahaha Goeie vraag Jeroen! Waarom schrijf je vanaf nu niet Nederlands... We zullen wel zien wat er gaat gebeuren, maar ik verwacht dt het niet lang duurt voordat alles weer in het engels gaat. Hier een voorbeeld van hoe snel het kan gaan als je iets in het Nederlands schrijft en antwoord krijgt van N.B. Nederlanders

Edited June 17, 2008 by darkhorse

[jackybeertje 0]

we schreven in het engels omdat sommige van onze SOs hier ook mee lazen en reageerde en zij alleen engels spreken.

[JeroenAndMichelle 28]

hahaha Goeie vraag Jeroen! Waarom schrijf je vanaf nu niet Nederlands... We zullen wel zien wat er gaat gebeuren, maar ik verwacht dt het niet lang duurt voordat alles weer in het engels gaat. Hier een voorbeeld van hoe snel het kan gaan als je iets in het Nederlands schrijft en antwoord krijgt van N.B. Nederlanders

LOL! Dat is echt heel erg snel gegaan, we hebben dus nu al een record verbroken haha xD

we schreven in het engels omdat sommige van onze SOs hier ook mee lazen en reageerde en zij alleen engels spreken.

Hmm.. dat verklaart een hoop.. oh well, we kunnen weer Engels gaan praten als er behoefte aan is maar goed, maybe is dat niet nodig en kunnen we de Nederlanders die al weg zijn uit het koude kikkerlandje toch nog een beetje Nederlands te lezen geven

[tmma 467]

BUMP!!!

[JeroenAndMichelle 28]

BUMP!!!

[darkhorse 0]

BUMP!!!

Hey Jeroen! Ik zie dat je je visa hebt. Gefeliciflapstaart!

Het is zo ontzettend rustig hier...

Oh well...

heeft er iemand hier kids die in de US zijn geboren? Ik ben momenteel 14 weken zwanger en begin me nu af te vragen hoe ik mijn kind een NL papoort kan bezorgen. Ik heb er totaal geen zin in om helemaal naar Orlando of Miami te reizen dus als er andere manieren zijn hoor ik het graag. Ik ben van plan om als de kleine een paar maanden oud is naar Nederland te gaan om daar mijn ouders te bezoeken. Zij zijn niet in de gelegenheid om naar hier te komen ivm gezondheid. weet er toevallig iemand of ik in NL een paspoort voor mijn uk kan aanvragen terwijl we daar op bezoek zijn?

[LR2010 0]

Hi everyone!

Sorry for writing in English, but I haven't learned Dutch (yet!).

My boyfriend and I are trying to decide which way to go for his American visa - K-1/K-3/IR-1/DCF. We want to do whatever will be the fastest way to get him here - with permission to work. It looks like it would be fastest for me to visit him there and file for DCF. I know about the ondertrauw already and that is not a problem. The Amsterdam consulate website says the American must have been a resident of the Netherlands for at least 6 months for us to be able to file there (but that's for the K-3, I believe). Does anyone have recent DCF experience? I've looked at the usadutch.com forums and wasn't sure what the status of the DCF there is (as of now).

The problem with the K-1 is that we don't want to wait 8+ months just to get that, then have him come here and have to wait another few months to get more than a temporary work permit. With the economy/immigration situation as it is in the US right now, no employers want to hire someone who doesn't have a green card. He's just finishing a master's degree in engineering in the Netherlands so I figure he won't have any problem finding a job here once he has a work permit.

Please help!

No matter how much information I read, I'm still confused! I won't even get into the issue of the paperwork for me to become a Dutch permanent resident! That is just as confusing!

The good thing is that my schedule is very flexible. I work on my own schedule so I can travel as I please.

Thanks so much!

[JeroenAndMichelle 28]

Hey Jeroen! Ik zie dat je je visa hebt. Gefeliciflapstaart!

Het is zo ontzettend rustig hier...

Oh well...

Dank je

Mijn excuses voor de late reactie maar ach

heeft er iemand hier kids die in de US zijn geboren?

Loop je nog steeds met deze vraag rond? Indien ja, dan is het misschien een goed idee om eventjes te kijken op de forums van allesamerika ( http://www.allesamerika.nl/forum/index.php ), daar zitten veel Nederlanders die in de VS wonen en ook al kinderen hebben.. die zullen vast wel weten hoe of wat je moet doen

[JeroenAndMichelle 28]

Hi everyone!

Sorry for writing in English, but I haven't learned Dutch (yet!).

No problem, we know some English

My boyfriend and I are trying to decide which way to go for his American visa - K-1/K-3/IR-1/DCF. We want to do whatever will be the fastest way to get him here - with permission to work. It looks like it would be fastest for me to visit him there and file for DCF. I know about the ondertrauw already and that is not a problem. The Amsterdam consulate website says the American must have been a resident of the Netherlands for at least 6 months for us to be able to file there (but that's for the K-3, I believe). Does anyone have recent DCF experience? I've looked at the usadutch.com forums and wasn't sure what the status of the DCF there is (as of now).

The problem with the K-1 is that we don't want to wait 8+ months just to get that, then have him come here and have to wait another few months to get more than a temporary work permit. With the economy/immigration situation as it is in the US right now, no employers want to hire someone who doesn't have a green card. He's just finishing a master's degree in engineering in the Netherlands so I figure he won't have any problem finding a job here once he has a work permit.

Please help!

No matter how much information I read, I'm still confused! I won't even get into the issue of the paperwork for me to become a Dutch permanent resident! That is just as confusing!

The good thing is that my schedule is very flexible. I work on my own schedule so I can travel as I please.

Thanks so much!

It is not that hard and what they told you was right

- With K1, you would be living in the US and file in the US.. your boyfriend would remain in NL for the duration of the wait. You are fiancees, not married.

- K3 is the same as K1 but instead of you being fiancees, you are married.

- With DCF, you both live in the Netherlands and you will file in the Netherlands, and both are married. You need to live and be married with him for at least 6 months.

When I look at the timeframes, then the K1 route is definitely faster than the K3 route. DCF would be faster than the K1 and K3... BUT... you have the 6 months wait before you file for DCF, thus making it a slower process in the end... also, you will need a visa yourself to be able to stay in the Netherlands for that duration of time, the wait for that (I have no idea about time frames in that case) might also add extra time.

Thing is, if you can leave the US for at least 6 months in a row (with a visa for the Netherlands) and you want to be together as soon as possible, then I think that a DCF would be the way for you. If not, then I would go for a K1 as that would be the faster kind.. he would have to wait a couple of months (45-90 days after filing for the EAD) before he can work (unless he has his point of entry on JFK, they give out EAD stamps (work permit stamps) there (if asked for).. these stamps are valid for 90 days after he entered the US).

And funny what you wrote about becoming a Dutch permanent resident... we were looking at that option also (mostly since my wife didn't want to stay on this island lol) but, yah, it is probably even harder to do that than to become a permanent resident in the US.. I think going over Belgium or Germany (living there for 5 years, get a EU passport and then be able to live in NL without problem) would be even easier.. but yah, I didn't exactly want to live there lol.

Anyways, to give you an answer.. I think that when it is possible for you to leave the US for more than 6 months in a row, that you would be safe with DCF.. if not, go for the K1

edit: btw, the route for K1 does not have to take 8 months, if I look at my own timeschedule, it could have been done in about 6 months (reason that it was a bit longer, was due to my own error, I didn't have all documents ready yet).

Edited December 16, 2008 by JeroenAndMichelle

[LR2010 0]

Hi everyone!

Sorry for writing in English, but I haven't learned Dutch (yet!).

No problem, we know some English

My boyfriend and I are trying to decide which way to go for his American visa - K-1/K-3/IR-1/DCF. We want to do whatever will be the fastest way to get him here - with permission to work. It looks like it would be fastest for me to visit him there and file for DCF. I know about the ondertrauw already and that is not a problem. The Amsterdam consulate website says the American must have been a resident of the Netherlands for at least 6 months for us to be able to file there (but that's for the K-3, I believe). Does anyone have recent DCF experience? I've looked at the usadutch.com forums and wasn't sure what the status of the DCF there is (as of now).

The problem with the K-1 is that we don't want to wait 8+ months just to get that, then have him come here and have to wait another few months to get more than a temporary work permit. With the economy/immigration situation as it is in the US right now, no employers want to hire someone who doesn't have a green card. He's just finishing a master's degree in engineering in the Netherlands so I figure he won't have any problem finding a job here once he has a work permit.

Please help!

No matter how much information I read, I'm still confused! I won't even get into the issue of the paperwork for me to become a Dutch permanent resident! That is just as confusing!

The good thing is that my schedule is very flexible. I work on my own schedule so I can travel as I please.

Thanks so much!

It is not that hard and what they told you was right

- With K1, you would be living in the US and file in the US.. your boyfriend would remain in NL for the duration of the wait. You are fiancees, not married.

- K3 is the same as K1 but instead of you being fiancees, you are married.

- With DCF, you both live in the Netherlands and you will file in the Netherlands, and both are married. You need to live and be married with him for at least 6 months.

When I look at the timeframes, then the K1 route is definitely faster than the K3 route. DCF would be faster than the K1 and K3... BUT... you have the 6 months wait before you file for DCF, thus making it a slower process in the end... also, you will need a visa yourself to be able to stay in the Netherlands for that duration of time, the wait for that (I have no idea about time frames in that case) might also add extra time.

Thing is, if you can leave the US for at least 6 months in a row (with a visa for the Netherlands) and you want to be together as soon as possible, then I think that a DCF would be the way for you. If not, then I would go for a K1 as that would be the faster kind.. he would have to wait a couple of months (45-90 days after filing for the EAD) before he can work (unless he has his point of entry on JFK, they give out EAD stamps (work permit stamps) there (if asked for).. these stamps are valid for 90 days after he entered the US).

And funny what you wrote about becoming a Dutch permanent resident... we were looking at that option also (mostly since my wife didn't want to stay on this island lol) but, yah, it is probably even harder to do that than to become a permanent resident in the US.. I think going over Belgium or Germany (living there for 5 years, get a EU passport and then be able to live in NL without problem) would be even easier.. but yah, I didn't exactly want to live there lol.

Anyways, to give you an answer.. I think that when it is possible for you to leave the US for more than 6 months in a row, that you would be safe with DCF.. if not, go for the K1

edit: btw, the route for K1 does not have to take 8 months, if I look at my own timeschedule, it could have been done in about 6 months (reason that it was a bit longer, was due to my own error, I didn't have all documents ready yet).

Thanks so much! That's very helpful!!

[LR2010 0]

So here's my next question: does anyone have experience getting a residence permit for their American girlfriend/boyfriend to live with them in the Netherlands? Being in a relationship (even if you're not married) is one of the options on the IND website so it seems like it should be easy. I'm wondering how long it might take realistically. Thanks!!

[JeroenAndMichelle 28]

So here's my next question: does anyone have experience getting a residence permit for their American girlfriend/boyfriend to live with them in the Netherlands? Being in a relationship (even if you're not married) is one of the options on the IND website so it seems like it should be easy. I'm wondering how long it might take realistically. Thanks!!

Personally I have no experience in this.. you might try one of the following websites to see if anyone knows about the duration:

- http://www.buitenlandsepartner.nl/forum/fo...e100d626780f45d (this is a Dutch website for Dutch people with foreign fiancees and/or spouses but this links brings you to their English forums)

- http://www.allesamerika.nl/forum/index.php (not sure if they can help you here, it is a site mostly with Dutchies who go, or want to go, to the US but they all know English and they might be able to help you out also, I am unsure about this one tho)

Hope these help