As "urban war" escalates, neighbors are on patrol (armed with cellphones, flashlights and Twitter)

[Danno 1,228]

<<The fact is that we know in our bones who are the minorities and who therefore should have special protection within our societies. We know what's fair. Whites can, as it were, look after themselves - they are the majority. Blacks, Hispanics and indeed - Muslims are (for the present) the minorities and cannot always look after themselves in the same way. These are ideas fundamental to societies based on humane and indeed Christian principles.

I think that's a tad simplistic. It's not all about race, class is a big factor as well. Look no further than lily-white Appalachia, with it's enduring poverty. They need special assistance just as much as Americans who live in our decaying urban areas do.>>

-AJ

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AJ, Two years ago, I would have agreed with you but now I am not as sure as you are the Poverty there is all Lilly-white.

LAst year I went with a group to bring Christmas toys, clothes and food to one of the poorest counties in America, the town was Gary WV.

Two things surprised me, first was .... not many people bothered to come get the items, we ended up donating some of it to a "rescue-mission" type place on the way out.

Second surprise was, the number of Black folk that showed up at our location.

I would estimate that 70% of the people who we were able to offer stuff too were Afro-American.

That simply leads me to believe that, it's not as "lilly-white" as one would expect.

[Danno 1,228]

I don't get the outrage over these perceived "double standards".

The issue of discrimination in relation to minorities is well documented - institutions (like the police) can't justify treating a whole group of people as second class citizens simply on the basis that there are more criminals from one community than another. You can't pre-judge individuals on the basis of expected behaviour - when the result of this is infringing on the rights of those individuals.

The fact is that we know in our bones who are the minorities and who therefore should have special protection within our societies. We know what's fair. Whites can, as it were, look after themselves - they are the majority. Blacks, Hispanics and indeed - Muslims are (for the present) the minorities and cannot always look after themselves in the same way. These are ideas fundamental to societies based on humane and indeed Christian principles.

PD, when did you get fond of using "Christian Principles" when making public policy?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I am assuming that you don't live in a ghetto or anywhere near those you staunchly defend.

You can't live in Jersey and not be 'near'. He is near and so am I. You're in NoVa so I suspect so are you.

I'll use you as an example.

How many Indians migrate to America or numerous other western nations, without a dollar to their name? Now, how many Indians do you see or hear of committing crimes? But according to six, the police should also pull them over, just to be PC. Why? they are not the ones committing the crimes. So why should they be inconvenienced and harassed for no other reason than being PC.

You're not getting it. The police should pull people over on the basis of reasonable suspicion of having done something wrong. A person's race alone is not reasonable suspicion.

are you suggesting, it could be a factor?

Don't be an idiot Danno