Just got fired from job!

[Ahmed N Cheryl 0]

I have been reading of your troubles for some time Nutty.

I am sad to see bad things to continue to happen to someone I see as a good person.

All things seem to happen for a reason even if at the time we are not able to see the reason. This too shall pass.

I will keep you in my prayers that things get brighter and happier for you soon.

Cheryl

[UmmSqueakster 54]

Very sorry to hear it.

If you're not quite ready to leave the US yet, have you considered legal temp work? I'm not sure what other areas of the law you've dealt with, but it's not all soul sucking work like bankruptcy. I was a legal temp for a few years through Robert Half International before finding my permanent position, and got health insurance with them. It wasn't the greatest, but it was still something.

[teenutty 0]

IF I wanted to continue in the line of bankruptcy, having two years work history with the most formidable Bankruptcy Trustee in Oregon on my resume will be an asset. Basically, I would market my skills to bankruptcy attorneys (the other side).

So sorry this happened to you, you foretold this and here it is - difficult times to be unemployed and uninsured (did your hubby finally put you on his insurance?).

I dont know much about your former profession but I've read where some folks in that field complete bankruptcy petitions for lawyers/firms from home at a flat rate per hour as the field has been overwhelmed with filings. You have a marketable skill - dont let this one incident defeat you.

Best of Luck

[Nagishkaw 510]

Although the timing may seem a little off, just remember that something good is about to happen, i.e., you are about to be blessed by something even better.

[teenutty 0]

I was never giving any warning or write up for anything!

I was promoted, against my will, December 1st.

A company does not promote someone who is a troublemaker. I don't think I was even really "fired." Because when I asked if they would be filling my position with another person, the Vice President said, "NO. We are keeping that department at two people (the Law school graduate and the Chapter 7 paralegal)." So if that's the case, i was really was laid off.

The caveat of the "Trustee had a PERSONAL PROBLEM working with you, Tina...." Well, management and the Trustee never said anything to me about it until the day I was let go. Besides, firing someone because you personally don't like them, does not constitute (as an employee) gross misconduct.

The only reason the Trustee "had a personal problem with me" was that for the one month I was alone in that department, I didn't know his working style (he thought I had been trained on how to file court documents, Motions for Turnover, Case abandonment docs, etc. And all I was trained on was how the open the damn mail and write simple letters). So the Trustee was all over me, every other day.

That sounds like a baloney reasons to fire someone and you could file for unemployment unless it's an at will state. Then it doesn't matter what reason they fired you for.

Actually, in our state, which is an at will state, as long as you didn't violate some company rule, like being late a lot or stealing, you can still get unemployment even if fired. So Nutty, apply and see if you are eligible. Not getting along with teh boss is not in your control, as you describe it.

Right I was meaning it doesn't matter the reason she got fired. She can still apply for unemployment if she feels it's just.

[Ahmed N Cheryl 0]

Whether fired or laid off with no intention of rehire you can most likely file for unemployment benefits.

Best of luck to you.

[teenutty 0]

Thanks everyone! It was a shock to be let go (especially when it's never happened to me before). Maybe it was God giving a little push to do what I didn't have the guts to do myself (this being let go from work).

I may take some time off and do a little soul searching. Now I got time to take care of myself physically (get in shape in case i decide to leave for a few months). Do my taxes, seperation papers....

I am sure it was all for the best.

Edited January 31, 2009 by teenutty

[morocco4ever 63]

I have never been fired either, but I have been laid off several times. I found that at each time this happened I was able to step up the ladder with each new position. So at the time I was upset, it ended up being for the best.

[teenutty 0]

I feel better today (after spending the night at my mom's and having a few beers).

A few of my collegues called my house yesterday when the notice I wasn't there for the latter part of the afternoon.

I spoke to one of them who had given her notice on this last Thursday to quit on February 10 (because of a conflict she had with a supervisor). But she said after hearing how the management let me go (after they forced me into a promotion), she's now only going in on Monday to get her eyeglasses and leave again and not stay to February 10. She's retiring early so doesn't care for any recommendation letters.

Really, and truely, it was a blessing in disguise.

[S and S 12]

I hope things work out for the best for you. I know you've been going through a rough time and this just adds to the stress. Sounds like a trip to India might be a nice thing. (F)

[Sandrila 1]

hugs Peanut

So sorry to hear that.

I hope you can get some sort of compensation

I will keep you in my prayers.

[nunyab 0]

yikes i am so sorry for this..... you know i had taken a leave of absence when i was in morocco that was approved when i came back i had no job and was filing papers for my husband when low and behold an even better job surfaced ... i am not going to lie it was scary but don't forget your prayers and God never forgets you.

[Sandrila 1]

this sounds to me like a bs reason for your termination and i hope you nail their nads to the wall over it.

Yes, it is. After being "promoted" to legal assistant (after they fired the previous one) to the Chapter 7 Paralegal two months ago. A promotion I did not want to begin with. They just hired a JD to work in the Chapter 7 Department (total of 3 people then, me the legal assistant, the Chapter 7 Paralegal and then the JD).

So part of me thinks, "now they got a JD and the Chapter 7 paralegal, they don't want to spend the money on a third staff member for that department. So they are letting the person with the least experience go."

I admit that when I was thrown into that position, with no training, no program/instructions on how to handle the Department alone (the Chapter 7 Paralegal was out for surgery), the Trustee was regularly abusive towards me because I didn't know his working style. But I never worked directly with him prior to this, as I was the front desk administrative assistant.

I can only think that is the basis of the excuse, "the Trustee has a personal problem working with you."

Oh well, it just forces me to move my plans forward sooner.

This place has an extremely high turnover rate for a small office (8 people). 5 people have been fired in a the last year, 3 have left voluntarily.

I am sure it has nothing to do with you.

What you are describing makes no sense at all and certainly isnt professional of them.

How could you have expected to move up in the ranks, a different department even, and not have any training?

If you find that this company and/or Trustee were unethical in any way....reseach your rights but if you are able to swallow it and move on...it sounds like you got your life under control. Change isnt always easy but it does alot of good. I know that when I went to India it changed my life completely. I wish you all the best.

[teenutty 0]

Really, I feel better since the weekend...

It was such a bad place anyway...In my 1 1/2 year there, 5 people were fired, 2 left voluntarily. That is in an office size of 8 people. So you know there is something wrong with the place. It is just that I tried so hard to make it work, even though the job was killing me...I see it as God gave me a push to do something I wanted to do, but instead listened to my husband who wanted me to keep working there. My biggest anger is not over losing the job (because in reality they did me a favor), but that for months and months I told my husband I wanted to quit the job, I had a job lined up, and he hindered all my plans to keep me working at my company. It was his lack of empathy that hurt the most.

yikes i am so sorry for this..... you know i had taken a leave of absence when i was in morocco that was approved when i came back i had no job and was filing papers for my husband when low and behold an even better job surfaced ... i am not going to lie it was scary but don't forget your prayers and God never forgets you.

[Sandrila 1]

Really, I feel better since the weekend...

It was such a bad place anyway...In my 1 1/2 year there, 5 people were fired, 2 left voluntarily. That is in an office size of 8 people. So you know there is something wrong with the place. It is just that I tried so hard to make it work, even though the job was killing me...I see it as God gave me a push to do something I wanted to do, but instead listened to my husband who wanted me to keep working there. My biggest anger is not over losing the job (because in reality they did me a favor), but that for months and months I told my husband I wanted to quit the job, I had a job lined up, and he hindered all my plans to keep me working at my company. It was his lack of empathy that hurt the most.

yikes i am so sorry for this..... you know i had taken a leave of absence when i was in morocco that was approved when i came back i had no job and was filing papers for my husband when low and behold an even better job surfaced ... i am not going to lie it was scary but don't forget your prayers and God never forgets you.