The New White House Webpage

[pedroh 21]

Fail to see the difference between a person that has heterosexual or homosexual tendencies has to do with the classroom when no sexual contact or discussion is permitted either way. In trusting your school, what difference does it make if say, a male teacher fondles your daughter or your son, equal damage is done.

Learned later on that one of my favorite teachers in high school, a male, was homosexual, was a very good teacher and he never tried to stick his thing up my butt, still have fond memories of him. But don't even want to think about his personal life style. But had teachers that I hated and still do, just there to make a buck.

I would imagine most teachers are professional enough to separate their personal and private lives.

Yeah I would think that Most are professional in their duties too. But I was going farther than Just ** activity being anointed civil rights protection.

I also showed according to Obama's website, that trans-gender types will have this same protection.

Why would a Muslim or Christian School Or university be compelled to hire a teacher who clearly

would be contrary to core values and beliefs, what about this basic right of association?

Why would I as a Business owner be compelled to hire a transgender/ crossdresser to interact with my customers if I think a flaming ** or crossdresser might have a negative impact on my business?

Why should daycare be run out of business because they were forced to hire a 200 Lbs man dressed as a woman to care for children.

These people do have right such as the right not to be attacked or harmed, but when you elevate certain lifestyles to the point Obama (and many here) want, it then imposes on others basic rights.

He is pushing the pendulum way to far.

Not sure most Americans would feel comfortable with this guy as their Gyno or Urologist.

Yet with Obamas plan, he has that RIGHT.

well.. im sure a 'flaming **' would not like to work in a place where the customers were not very accepting of him, unless of course they want to force their lifestyle on us and work where they are not liked just to prove their point..

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If the teacher doesn't have a criminal record (as most don't) and keeps their personal life entirely separate from their professional life (as many do), there's no reason why a religious school shouldn't/couldn't hire them.

I mean would you prefer that your children be taught by a less well qualified teacher, just because you don't like what you imagine the teacher might get up to when they're off work? It has no bearing (absolutely none) on their job performance whatsoever.

A qualified teacher is a qualified teacher - surely that's all there is to it.

But certainly to Pedroh's point its difficult to imagine why someone would purposefully apply for a job in an environment where they aren't welcome. Surely its the school's loss if they want to prostitute educational standards in favor of abitrary codes of conduct relating to something that's none of their business.

Edited January 30, 2009 by Paul Daniels

[pedroh 21]

If the teacher doesn't have a criminal record (as most don't) and keeps their personal life entirely separate from their professional life (as many do), there's no reason why a religious school shouldn't/couldn't hire them.

I mean would you prefer that your children be taught by a less well qualified teacher, just because you don't like what you imagine the teacher might get up to when they're off work? It has no bearing (absolutely none) on their job performance whatsoever.

A qualified teacher is a qualified teacher - surely that's all there is to it.

But certainly to Pedroh's point its difficult to imagine why someone would purposefully apply for a job in an environment where they aren't welcome. Surely its the school's loss if they want to prostitute educational standards in favor of abitrary codes of conduct relating to something that's none of their business.

I'm sure there are many gay teachers and other professionals who keep their professional life separate from their private life.. and a lot of homophobes don't even realize it

[Gigli2008 70]

If the teacher doesn't have a criminal record (as most don't) and keeps their personal life entirely separate from their professional life (as many do), there's no reason why a religious school shouldn't/couldn't hire them.

I mean would you prefer that your children be taught by a less well qualified teacher, just because you don't like what you imagine the teacher might get up to when they're off work? It has no bearing (absolutely none) on their job performance whatsoever.

A qualified teacher is a qualified teacher - surely that's all there is to it.

But certainly to Pedroh's point its difficult to imagine why someone would purposefully apply for a job in an environment where they aren't welcome. Surely its the school's loss if they want to prostitute educational standards in favor of abitrary codes of conduct relating to something that's none of their business.

I'm sure there are many gay teachers and other professionals who keep their professional life separate from their private life.. and a lot of homophobes don't even realize it

I agree. On professionals who act like professionals. Women aren't usually bothered by Male Gynos or Obstetricians or Men with Female Urologists. Why do people feel that Gay people cannot be professionals too. I did not realize that my Ob/Gyn was Lesbian until 11 years later. Even if my gaydar would have been working it would not have bothered me one bit.

Edited January 30, 2009 by Gigli2008

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Maybe I should have titled this the new digital democracy? Anyways on the subject of gay rights they are still struggling for equal rights and until that day I can't say the US is equal. But with a Black President in office now I can say it has become more equal.

My older brother says he's going to request his FBI profile using the FOIA form I posted. Anyone else?

[Danno 1,228]

If the teacher doesn't have a criminal record (as most don't) and keeps their personal life entirely separate from their professional life (as many do), there's no reason why a religious school shouldn't/couldn't hire them.

So you are suggesting a "don't ask don't tell" policy for places that would object to transgendered people.

Sounds like you want these folks to deny being

who they want to be.

Tsk Tsk.

You're not going to get the Gold star from the Liberal crowd talking like that PD.

[pedroh 21]

If the teacher doesn't have a criminal record (as most don't) and keeps their personal life entirely separate from their professional life (as many do), there's no reason why a religious school shouldn't/couldn't hire them.

So you are suggesting a "don't ask don't tell" policy for places that would object to transgendered people.

Sounds like you want these folks to deny being

who they want to be.

Tsk Tsk.

You're not going to get the Gold star from the Liberal crowd talking like that PD.

there's a difference in denying their preferences and keeping privacy.. being gay doesn't mean they have to yell it all around, even straight people, specially in schools, are very private about their lives (exceptions of course of some dumb ones)..

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If the teacher doesn't have a criminal record (as most don't) and keeps their personal life entirely separate from their professional life (as many do), there's no reason why a religious school shouldn't/couldn't hire them.

So you are suggesting a "don't ask don't tell" policy for places that would object to transgendered people.

Sounds like you want these folks to deny being

who they want to be.

Tsk Tsk.

You're not going to get the Gold star from the Liberal crowd talking like that PD.

I'm saying that everyone has a right to privacy when it comes applying for and performing a job.

I don't know about you - but coming into work and proclaiming "Goddamn! I had me some great sex last night!" isn't exactly the height of professionalism.

[Teacher Mark 53]

Maybe I should have titled this the new digital democracy? Anyways on the subject of gay rights they are still struggling for equal rights and until that day I can't say the US is equal. But with a Black President in office now I can say it has become more equal.

My older brother says he's going to request his FBI profile using the FOIA form I posted. Anyone else?

How much are you willing to pay them?

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Maybe I should have titled this the new digital democracy? Anyways on the subject of gay rights they are still struggling for equal rights and until that day I can't say the US is equal. But with a Black President in office now I can say it has become more equal.

My older brother says he's going to request his FBI profile using the FOIA form I posted. Anyone else?

How much are you willing to pay them?

That is such a creepy question I know. I guess shipping costs.

[lostinblue 1,989]

Fail to see the difference between a person that has heterosexual or homosexual tendencies has to do with the classroom when no sexual contact or discussion is permitted either way. In trusting your school, what difference does it make if say, a male teacher fondles your daughter or your son, equal damage is done.

Learned later on that one of my favorite teachers in high school, a male, was homosexual, was a very good teacher and he never tried to stick his thing up my butt, still have fond memories of him. But don't even want to think about his personal life style. But had teachers that I hated and still do, just there to make a buck.

I would imagine most teachers are professional enough to separate their personal and private lives.

We use to think the same way about a priest the same way 50 years ago. Would you feel comfortable having a gay gym coach handing out towels in the shower room . Checking out your son or daughter a few times a week.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Fail to see the difference between a person that has heterosexual or homosexual tendencies has to do with the classroom when no sexual contact or discussion is permitted either way. In trusting your school, what difference does it make if say, a male teacher fondles your daughter or your son, equal damage is done.

Learned later on that one of my favorite teachers in high school, a male, was homosexual, was a very good teacher and he never tried to stick his thing up my butt, still have fond memories of him. But don't even want to think about his personal life style. But had teachers that I hated and still do, just there to make a buck.

I would imagine most teachers are professional enough to separate their personal and private lives.

We use to think the same way about a priest the same way 50 years ago. Would you feel comfortable having a gay gym coach handing out towels in the shower room . Checking out your son or daughter a few times a week.

So the simple fact of being homosexual would make gay teachers more likely to "check out" the kids?

In other words - gay teachers are gay first and teachers second (or they only choose that occupation so they can perv on kids in the changing rooms). Wow - did you even read that before you posted it?

[alienlovechild 75]

In other words - gay teachers are gay first and teachers second (or they only choose that occupation so they can perv on kids in the changing rooms). Wow - did you even read that before you posted it?

Why would gay issues be the foremost concern for the WH webpage? This thread is a disaster and those who want to talk about gay rights should get another thread.

Ok, I'll be equally moronic by commenting here. I'm pretty sure they were gay before they were teachers. A lot people who prey on kids choose professions where they can get power over and access to kids .

[Peikko 1,575]

Did you actually click the link that Olivia provided? That Danno chose to investigate that particular issue is up to him and has nothing to do with what the website at all. It is certainly not the first thing you find when you go to the website. I guess you are boycotting looking because it comes from the 'evil' Obama administration and you might be contaminated. Rather in the same way that some people fear homosexuality.

As for your moronic comment. You are right, it is. When people say they are 'X professional first' it's not a time line!

A sexual predator is no more likely to be gay than straight, I suspect that the proportions are in line with the % of gays to straights in the whole of society so that comment is pointless.

[Peikko 1,575]

Anyway, back to Olivia

I listened to an NPR program on this - I know, too much NPR but still. Anyway, I did agree with the concerns raised re journalistic professionalism and whether this is true transparency or just a way for the WH to broadcast their own agenda. Be that as it may, I do think that being able to access information in this way is a giant step in the right direction.