Obama: U.S. not your enemy

[Heracles 417]

Well the Bush doctrine has pretty much failed.

In fact, I would go out on a limb and say that since the end of WW2 there isn't one single offensive war that the US has fought that couldn't have been resolved (just as effectively) through other means.

WW2 was the last "just" war.

Is that why people are being butchered daily in Sudan? How did the Bulkan war stop?

Then again this statement is coming from the guy who will attack every single person he disagrees with. Yeah, I can see how well diplomacy works with you alone.

Edited January 28, 2009 by Aficionado

[alienlovechild 75]

STEP 5: See your shrink about doubling your dosage... the current meds aren't working.

I need 'em after reading your DIME posts with you believing nobody has tried these aspects before and being unable articulate how they can be used now.

Don't feel bad that you failed the Palin style quiz on the Bush Doctrine. This from the same crowd that heckled Palin on it during the campaign. Not an issue now, eh?

You are a complete tard... I've explained DIME & the Bush doctrine in previous posts. The fact that I know the acronym and I'm pretty sure you didn't means you should probably stick to topics you actually know a little about.

Your own posts on these threads say otherwise. Couldn't find one where you go beyond explaining what DIME stands for or how it could be applied now. It's obvious I read your previous posts on DIME because I'm the one who said you've used it before.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...768&hl=dime

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...227&hl=dime

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...992&hl=dime

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...939&hl=dime

Edited January 28, 2009 by alienlovechild

[Nagishkaw 510]

The man just flat out scares me.

[ronald dallas 0]

The american government was never at war with people who are muslim, the american government was at war with the people who want to cause us harm.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Islam will be getting a small chance to prove the allegation so often made despite the evidence of real events and actions, that Islam is a religion of peace. I don't think Barack is another Jimmy Carter, and if his ego get's bruised in MENA watch out! I believe Barack will use military force when/where called for.

Barack's attention is where it should rightly be, on the economy and MENA. Two area's W and the gang ran in to the toilet.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well the Bush doctrine has pretty much failed.

In fact, I would go out on a limb and say that since the end of WW2 there isn't one single offensive war that the US has fought that couldn't have been resolved (just as effectively) through other means.

WW2 was the last "just" war.

Is that why people are being butchered daily in Sudan? How did the Bulkan war stop?

Then again this statement is coming from the guy who will attack every single person he disagrees with. Yeah, I can see how well diplomacy works with you alone.

Is "what" why?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The american government was never at war with people who are muslim, the american government was at war with the people who want to cause us harm.

That's what they said...

But I don't think too many people believed that Iraq posed a credible direct threat to the US, certainly not in the way it was presented to the public.

[nowhereman 1]

The man just flat out scares me.

Yea Alien's remarks scare me too

[alienlovechild 75]

The man just flat out scares me.

Yea Alien's remarks scare me too

Probably so. It's scary when somebody posts the links to previous threads on a issue and the other guy has nothing to say.

[Heracles 417]

Well the Bush doctrine has pretty much failed.

In fact, I would go out on a limb and say that since the end of WW2 there isn't one single offensive war that the US has fought that couldn't have been resolved (just as effectively) through other means.

WW2 was the last "just" war.

Is that why people are being butchered daily in Sudan? How did the Bulkan war stop?

Then again this statement is coming from the guy who will attack every single person he disagrees with. Yeah, I can see how well diplomacy works with you alone.

Is "what" why?

The question mark is there by accident.

Good effort for actually posting an opinion for a change but unfortunately you receive a one out of ten for it. The notion that we can simply solve major problems with diplomacy or other measures is ridiculous. To assume, like Obama, that everyone seeks peace and diplomacy is wrong.

How much 'diplomacy' have you alone shown others here that you disagree with? Yet magically we are expected to believe that people with completely different cultures, ideologies, backgrounds, beliefs, ideals can somehow come together. Based on your posts on VJ, you are certainly not one who can lead by example.

Edited January 28, 2009 by Aficionado

[nowhereman 1]

STEP 5: See your shrink about doubling your dosage... the current meds aren't working.

I need 'em after reading your DIME posts with you believing nobody has tried these aspects before and being unable articulate how they can be used now.

Don't feel bad that you failed the Palin style quiz on the Bush Doctrine. This from the same crowd that heckled Palin on it during the campaign. Not an issue now, eh?

You are a complete tard... I've explained DIME & the Bush doctrine in previous posts. The fact that I know the acronym and I'm pretty sure you didn't means you should probably stick to topics you actually know a little about.

Your own posts on these threads say otherwise. Couldn't find one where you go beyond explaining what DIME stands for or how it could be applied now. It's obvious I read your previous posts on DIME because I'm the one who said you've used it before.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...768&hl=dime

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...227&hl=dime

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...992&hl=dime

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...939&hl=dime

Again you are a tard. These posts actually prove that I know what DIME is and how it applies to current foreign affairs... the fact that I wrote a few concise paragraphs and didn't ramble on for 3 pages with a bunch of nonsense means that I understand BLUF (Bottom Line Up Front) while you prefer mindless rhetoric in attempt to prove your points. We can agree to disagree, but if you continue to make baseless accusations you will just make yourself look even less informed.

[nowhereman 1]

The man just flat out scares me.

Yea Alien's remarks scare me too

Probably so. It's scary when somebody posts the links to previous threads on a issue and the other guy has nothing to say.

Yea it took me more than 2 minutes to respond to your nonsense... clearly I was left speechless by your razor wit and keen intellect.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well the Bush doctrine has pretty much failed.

In fact, I would go out on a limb and say that since the end of WW2 there isn't one single offensive war that the US has fought that couldn't have been resolved (just as effectively) through other means.

WW2 was the last "just" war.

Is that why people are being butchered daily in Sudan? How did the Bulkan war stop?

Then again this statement is coming from the guy who will attack every single person he disagrees with. Yeah, I can see how well diplomacy works with you alone.

Is "what" why?

The question mark is there by accident.

Good effort for actually posting an opinion for a change but unfortunately you receive a one out of ten for it. The notion that we can simply solve major problems with diplomacy or other measures is ridiculous. To assume, like Obama, that everyone seeks peace and diplomacy is wrong.

How much 'diplomacy' have you alone shown others here that you disagree with? Yet magically we are expected to believe that people with completely different cultures, ideologies, backgrounds, beliefs, ideals can somehow come together. Based on your posts on VJ, you are certainly not one who can lead by example.

Why thank you so much! kind sir! I guess I'm lucky the Boo-Yah scale of approval doesn't have much value.

Dragging your personal vendetta with me into what I wrote (which you clearly didn't bother to read) is idiotic beyond belief.

[nowhereman 1]

The american government was never at war with people who are muslim, the american government was at war with the people who want to cause us harm.

That's what they said...

But I don't think too many people believed that Iraq posed a credible direct threat to the US, certainly not in the way it was presented to the public.

Don't tell the right wingers that most Americans (over 70%, since Bush's approval ratings hovered around 27-30% during his second term) believe going to war with Iraq was a mistake, because to them it's just a bunch of clueless liberals who disagreed with the Bush administration. The fact that many conservatives & moderates also oppose this decision falls on deaf ears with these guys.

[Peikko 1,575]

This is what Jimmy II gets for his trouble.....naive to say the least!

He's being used for propaganda by the Iranians just as his dumb mentor, Jimmy Carter, in 1978......

Oh, I just got an idea! Maybe he should send Jimmy Carter to the Middle East as an emissary to talk to Hamas? You know, try to reason with them.....And following all the propaganda photo sessions they can send Jimmy boy packing. Oh wait, Jimmy already did that on his own defying a sitting President when told not to do so!

What this naive, inexperienced President doesn't understand is that these people HATE us, and NO amount of friendly overtures towards them by us will curtail their mission.

This egotistical dumb-####### President of ours needs to take the advice of people a lot smarter than he in these matters.

Obama should apologise to Iran: Ahmadinejad

TEHRAN (AFP) – Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad demanded on Wednesday that US President Barack Obama apologise for "crimes" committed by the United States against Iran over the past 60 years.

The hardline leader also called on Washington to withdraw its troops from across the world as a proof of Obama's policy of change.

"You were standing against the Iranian people in the past 60 years," Ahmadinejad said during an address in the western region of Khermenshah that was broadcast by state television.

"Those who speak of change must apologise to the Iranian people and try to repair their past bad acts and the crimes they committed against Iran."

As to the troops, he said he expected two kinds of "deep and fundamental" change.

"Meet people, talk to them with respect and put an end to the expansionist policies. If you talk about change it must put an end to the US military presence in the world, withdraw your troops and take them back inside your borders."

Ahmadinejad said the advocates of change must "stop supporting the Zionists, outlaws and criminals."

He called on the United States to "stop interfering in other people's affairs" and said Washington should "let the American people decide their own future ... Stop pressuring them," he added, without saying to what he was referring.

Ahmadinejad said he welcomed change but the "change has to be fundamental."

"If someone wants to talk with us in the language that (George W.) Bush used ... even if he uses new words, our response will be the same that we gave to Bush during the past years," he added.

Tension between Washington and Tehran has been high over the latter's nuclear programme.

Bush refused to hold talks with Iran until it stopped its nuclear work, but on Monday Obama extended a diplomatic hand towards Tehran to break the deadlock.

In an interview with Al-Arabia television, Obama promised to lay a framework for his policy towards Iran.

"As I said in my inauguration speech, if countries like Iran are willing to unclench their fist, they will find an extended hand from us.

"It is very important for us to make sure that we are using all the tools of US power, including diplomacy, in our relationship with Iran."

Also on Monday, Washington's UN ambassador, Susan Rice, pledged "direct" support to Tehran if it halts the nuclear programme.

Ahmadinejad said Tehran would "wait, see and listen to what they (US) say and then consider what they do."

"If there is a real change, we will welcome it."

The five permanent members of the UN Security Council -- Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States -- plus Germany have offered Tehran economic and energy incentives in exchange for halting its uranium enrichment programme.

But Tehran is pressing on with the work, insisting that its nuclear programme is peaceful and solely geared toward electricity generation.

The Security Council has already adopted four resolutions -- three of which included sanctions -- requiring Iran to suspend enrichment

Someone like you, perhaps?