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Hello everyone!

I am new here and I have a question!!

I am brazilian and I also have italian citizenship.

Do I need to give up in one when I get married??

Thanks a lot

(L)mrspimpinha

No but you may need to give one up to become a US Citizen. Two different questions entirely.

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Hello everyone!

I am new here and I have a question!!

I am brazilian and I also have italian citizenship.

Do I need to give up in one when I get married??

Thanks a lot

(L)mrspimpinha

No, and even if you apply for a US citizenship after 3 years of being permanent resident. US laws will let you have 3 citizenships. I am not sure about brazilian you need to ask in Brazil. Italian its ok.

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Com a aprovação da emenda constitucional 03/94, a Constituição brasileira passou a dispor no seu artigo 12, parágrafo quarto, inciso II, que:

"Será declarada a perda de nacionalidade do brasileiro que:

II - Adquirir outra nacionalidade, salvo nos casos:

a) de reconhecimento de nacionalidade originária pela lei estrangeira;

B) de imposição de naturalização, pela norma estrangeira, ao brasileiro, em Estados estrangeiros, como condição para permanência em seu território ou para o exercício de direitos civis."

Segundo o Despacho número 172 do Ministério da Justiça, de 4 de agosto de 1995, a interpretação a ser dada a essa norma constitucional é a de que:

a) no caso da alínea (a) transcrita acima - reconhecimento de nacionalidade originária -, "não perde a nacionalidade o brasileiro que teve reconhecida outra nacionalidade por Estado estrangeiro, quando a mesma decorre do direito de sangue (jus sanguinis), sendo originariamente adquirida. Aqui o simples vínculo sanguíneo é que faz surgir a nacionalidade, independente do local de nascimento. É, v.g., o caso da Itália que reconhece aos descendentes de seus nacionais a cidadania italiana. Muitos brasileiros descendentes de italianos vêm obtendo aquela nacionalidade, através do simples processo administrativo. Nesta hipótese, não há aquisição derivada de nacionalidade estrangeira, mas reconhecimento de nacionalidade originária, independente de renúncia ou opção pela nacionalidade anterior. Neste caso, não perderão a nacionalidade brasileira os que se utilizarem de tal benefício";

B) no caso da alínea (B) - imposição de naturalização por Estado estrangeiro -, é preservada "a nacionalidade brasileira daquele que, por motivos de trabalho, acesso aos serviços públicos, fixação de residência, etc., praticamente se vê obrigado a adquirir a nacionalidade estrangeira, mas que, na realidade, jamais teve a intenção ou a vontade de abdicar da cidadania originária. ... A perda só deve ocorrer nos casos em que a vontade do indivíduo é de efetivamente mudar de nacionalidade, expressamente demonstrada."

Os requerimentos de reaquisição de nacionalidade brasileira devem conter: (a) os motivos de aquisição da nacionalidade estrangeira, (B) compromisso de cumprimento dos deveres inerentes aos nacionais e © cópias de um ou mais documentos pessoais (carteira de identidade, passaporte, ou qualquer outro documento do qual constem o nome, filiação, local e data de nascimento do interessado).

Timeline:

filed I-130: 2007/10/10 (child under 21 unmarried of a USC) "IR2"

uscis sends NOA: 2007/10/22

21st b-day: 2008/**/** (well that sucks)

I-130 approval notice: 2008/06/15 (was approved due to CHILD STATUS PROTECTION ACT, signed by Pres. Bush on August 6,2002)

case forwarded to NVC: 2008/06/16

biometrics bill received: 2008/07/13

biometrics bill paid: 2008/07/15

IV bill received: 2008/07/27

affidavit of support request received: 2008/08/02

affidavit of support request sent: 2008/09/20

IV bill paid: 2008/09/20

DS-230 request received: 2008/10/01

DS-230 request sent via express mail: 2008/11/20 (had to wait a loooong time for police certificates)

Medical Exam: 2008/11/25 (passed no problems of course!)

NVC receives DS-230 package: 2008/11/29

CASE COMPLETE!! : 2008/12/09 (no RFE)

case forwarded to embassy in Rio de Janeiro-Brazil: 2009/01/08

interview date and time: 2009/02/02 at 7:45am

Visa in hand:

POE:

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in other words, you may lose your brazilian citizership but you don't have to give it up unless the brazilian government comes after you saying you do. my mom's case is the same as yours.

Timeline:

filed I-130: 2007/10/10 (child under 21 unmarried of a USC) "IR2"

uscis sends NOA: 2007/10/22

21st b-day: 2008/**/** (well that sucks)

I-130 approval notice: 2008/06/15 (was approved due to CHILD STATUS PROTECTION ACT, signed by Pres. Bush on August 6,2002)

case forwarded to NVC: 2008/06/16

biometrics bill received: 2008/07/13

biometrics bill paid: 2008/07/15

IV bill received: 2008/07/27

affidavit of support request received: 2008/08/02

affidavit of support request sent: 2008/09/20

IV bill paid: 2008/09/20

DS-230 request received: 2008/10/01

DS-230 request sent via express mail: 2008/11/20 (had to wait a loooong time for police certificates)

Medical Exam: 2008/11/25 (passed no problems of course!)

NVC receives DS-230 package: 2008/11/29

CASE COMPLETE!! : 2008/12/09 (no RFE)

case forwarded to embassy in Rio de Janeiro-Brazil: 2009/01/08

interview date and time: 2009/02/02 at 7:45am

Visa in hand:

POE:

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II - Acquiring another nationality, except if:

a) recognition of foreign nationals from the law;

for the imposition of naturalization, the foreign rule, the Brazilian, in foreign States, as a condition for remaining in their territory or for the exercise of civil rights. "

According to the Order number 172 of the Ministry of Justice, August 4, 1995, the interpretation to be given to this constitutional norm is that:

a) in the case of (a) above transcribed - recognition of national origin - "do not lose the nationality that the Brazilian had another nationality recognized by foreign state, when it follows the right of blood (jus sanguinas), which originally acquired . Here is the simple blood bond that brings forth the nationality, regardless of place of birth. It is, for example, the case with Italy recognizing the descendants of its nationals to Italian citizenship. Many Brazilians are descendants of Italian nationality getting that through the simple administrative process. In this case, there is derived from acquiring foreign citizenship, but recognition of national origin, regardless of waiver or opt for nationality before. I do not lose the Brazilian nationality of those who use such benefit ";

in the case of subparagraph (- imposition of naturalization by foreign state - is preserved "that the Brazilian who, for reasons of employment, access to public services, setting of residence, etc.., practically is obliged to acquire a foreign nationality, but, in fact, never had the intention or the desire to abandon the original citizenship. ... The loss should only occur where the will of the individual is to effectively change their nationality, explicitly demonstrated. "

Applications for purchase of Brazilian nationality must include: (a) the reasons for the acquisition of foreign nationality, (commitment to fulfill the obligations inherent in the national and © one or more copies of personal documents (identity card, passport or other document setting out the name, affiliation, place and date of birth of the person).

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