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sure, applicants should be entitled to the reason why they are waiting so long, however when you call USCIS you are speaking with a rep, not an adjudicator, and they dont know anymore than you know why your case is taking so long. They have basic info, if its been recieved...bla bla, but they know hardly more than that. Also, expecting adjudicators, or even CSR's to send out correspondence to EVERY applicant on why its taking longer than 6 months, is causing a longer delay, as that is extra work (that would be sending over 1 million letters of explanation, its not do-able). Because they do say its an estimated time, that is what it is, its an estimation, not a promise.

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"VJ Timelines are only an estimate, they are not actual approval dates! They only reflect VJ members. VJ Timelines do not include the thousands of applicants who do not use VJ"

IF YOU ARE NEW TO THE SITE, PLEASE READ THE GUIDES BEFORE ASKING ALOT OF QUESTIONS. THE GUIDES ARE VERY HELPFUL AND WILL SAVE YOU ALOT OF TIME!

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THIS IS THE MOST INTELLEGENT POST I HAVE YET TO READ!!!

Finally, someone can better explain, exactly what I feel. Even if they told me my case would take 5 years, an honest and accurate answer would make me happy. I would have relocated to the Netherlands and put my career on hold for 5 years. It's the not knowing...or knowing the wrong information which is killing me.

When we filed the K-3 we were told that it would take 4-8 months to process. We were told it would be significantly faster than the I-130. Back in August when I called USCIS/DHS I was told, "You should be hearing something in another month." In October, a contact told my mom, "She should be recieving her approval no later than November 15th." Then the beginning of January I was told, "Your case was not even assigned yet." Then today I was told, "Your case will be assigned to someone in about 60 days." #######?????

So, long story short...tomorrow I'll be giving my husband the green light to go find us a house in Holland and will be speaking with my employer about a long leave of absence.

PS-Still wishing for all the bull$hitters to drop dead :devil:

This is nothing more than an academic debate, so please do not take offense. You make very good points, and they cannot be debated. But, I think the argument is incomplete. This is the biggest problem with USCIS and their approval process:

If it's going to take 9, 10, 11 months to get an approval, fine. No one is saying that we are entitled to a 60 day approval. I will even go as far to say that, although I think the logic is strange, I accept the fact that K-1's get approved faster than K-3's. What is completely wrong about this process is that the applicant has no idea as to whether it will take 5,6,7, or 12 months to receive their approval, and the date their application is received has little to no relevance in the order in which things gets processed. Explain to me how a person who has submitted their paperwork in April and who is still waiting, while people who submitted in July and August, for the SAME visa, are approved, with no explanation as to why. OK-so some cases take more time than others, based on individual circumstances. I understand that. Fine - USCIS should be able to explain to an applicant why they are having to wait 4 additional months for the same visa that someone else got approved for in 4 fewer months. But, that does not happen. USCIS offers no information, and often times offers misinformation, in order to NOT deal with the inquiries of applicants. That defies almost every construct of basic customer service, and a private sector company who engaged in that sort of practice would be out of business in six months. But - USCIS employs that as their modus operandi.

I think any applicant, including K3, K1, whoever, would say that they could live with the wait, if they got honest and reasonably accurate information regarding the HOW and the WHY of the wait. If USCIS told me it would be a year, great, I could plan for a year, and adjust my visiting schedule and financial affiars accordingly. But, when they tell us a 6 month wait today, a 9 month wait next week, and a year wait next month, while others who get into the system after us are being approved before us, is that acceptable?

A question: If you were in line to be seated for dinner at a restaurant, and you had waited patiently 30 minutes to be the first in line, and then people who were behind you started cutting in front of you, and the hostess seated them instead of you, with no explanation as to why, would you be happy? No, you would probably go to another restaurant. But, these people don't have the choice to go to another restaurant. There's only one diner in town. If another restaurant opened, this one would go out of business, for the way they treat many of their customers. And remember: Any American Citizen who pays taxes and pays the fee for this service is a customer. Not cattle waiting to be slaughtered.

By the way, I have been approved already. A month ago.

CJ-G

The more I think about the inequalities in this system, the more I am thinking this is a Civil Rights issue. As USC's, we are supposed to have equal rights. Where is the equality when geography (CSC vs. VSC disparity) and luck of the draw is determinant on the order in which a gov't application is processed?

While we are petitioning for non-USC's, we, USC's, are the ones filing and we have rights to be treated equally and fairly. I understand that this system will never be an exact queue, but disparities of more than 4 or 6 months in processing is not acceptable. If a petition is "complicated", than the applicant should at least be notified that they will be subject to a longer processing time and the reason. Those applications should then be sent to a group of specialized adjucators and not kept in the queue to hold up the rest. That would be reasonable. Instead, we are all left in limbo and castigated for making inquiries.

I am going to contact the ACLU and will keep everyone posted. It's time we make some noise.

But where are our rights being ignored? They have allowed you as a right to go and meet your spouse, and marry in another country. They have then given you the right to come home and petition for your non US husband/wife to come to america, and then they give you the right to have an approval, if you get denied they give you that right to appeal it. Just bc it takes time for the process, doesnt mean your civil rights have been removed...or ignored.

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I hear you, but I do not buy the argument that a rep can't look at a computer screen and see 3 lines typed from an adjudicator regarding the status of a case. "ON HOLD BECAUSE OF BACKGROUND CHECK". That took me 6 seconds to type. One bar code placed on a file could provide a queue status of the file, just like our groceries going past a scanner. Banks, credit card companies, utility companies, they perform this service every day. And, these reps are not all Ph.D's making 100 grand a year. Our government can develop a Blackberry for our president that is totally impervious to cyber-spying, but they can't do some of the same things that a $10 an hour rep at a back-office call center does every day? No, I don't accept that.

sure, applicants should be entitled to the reason why they are waiting so long, however when you call USCIS you are speaking with a rep, not an adjudicator, and they dont know anymore than you know why your case is taking so long. They have basic info, if its been recieved...bla bla, but they know hardly more than that. Also, expecting adjudicators, or even CSR's to send out correspondence to EVERY applicant on why its taking longer than 6 months, is causing a longer delay, as that is extra work (that would be sending over 1 million letters of explanation, its not do-able). Because they do say its an estimated time, that is what it is, its an estimation, not a promise.
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I hear you, but I do not buy the argument that a rep can't look at a computer screen and see 3 lines typed from an adjudicator regarding the status of a case. "ON HOLD BECAUSE OF BACKGROUND CHECK". That took me 6 seconds to type. One bar code placed on a file could provide a queue status of the file, just like our groceries going past a scanner. Banks, credit card companies, utility companies, they perform this service every day. And, these reps are not all Ph.D's making 100 grand a year. Our government can develop a Blackberry for our president that is totally impervious to cyber-spying, but they can't do some of the same things that a $10 an hour rep at a back-office call center does every day? No, I don't accept that.

sure, applicants should be entitled to the reason why they are waiting so long, however when you call USCIS you are speaking with a rep, not an adjudicator, and they dont know anymore than you know why your case is taking so long. They have basic info, if its been recieved...bla bla, but they know hardly more than that. Also, expecting adjudicators, or even CSR's to send out correspondence to EVERY applicant on why its taking longer than 6 months, is causing a longer delay, as that is extra work (that would be sending over 1 million letters of explanation, its not do-able). Because they do say its an estimated time, that is what it is, its an estimation, not a promise.

If they could tell you....they would. I know all of you think the CSR's are evil lil trolls out to ruin your lives hopes and dreams, they're not, they are giving you the info they can give you. Your case files also are delicate....they are not going to let any Tom, ####### or Harry having a looksie at it. Compare USCIS reps to lets say, your electric company reps....your electric bill isnt half as confidential as your immigration case forms. Therefore your reps at (ill use mine) GRU can give me just about any info i ask for....but when your dealing with USCIS...and such again delicate information, they are not going to give reps that kind of information on you. even if its just to say " your in AR process" even that comes directly in the snail mail or to your email address thru a highly secure email server.

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"VJ Timelines are only an estimate, they are not actual approval dates! They only reflect VJ members. VJ Timelines do not include the thousands of applicants who do not use VJ"

IF YOU ARE NEW TO THE SITE, PLEASE READ THE GUIDES BEFORE ASKING ALOT OF QUESTIONS. THE GUIDES ARE VERY HELPFUL AND WILL SAVE YOU ALOT OF TIME!

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Every possible justification is BS. Sure, some applications can be put on hold for security checks...but explain why people from April are not even ASSIGNED and people from October are already approved.

You cannot say "there are specifics to each case" if the case hasn't even been looked at.

Anyway, there are certain people that have already judged others here on VJ. So some are allowed to complain and others aren't, if you know what I mean...I was gonna say something else, but I'll keep my mouth shut. I'm not in the mood to be suspended just yet.

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who isnt allowed to complain? i havent seen you not complain or let anyone stop you at all.

I have already explained the process to you in very deep detail...coming directly from a worker from USCIS. Actually was explaining it to arubadolphin, bc she tries to understand and doesnt believe USCIS is just trying to screw her for the heck of it.

If you choose not to understand and think its a vendeta against YOU...then thats fine....but when im sitting here trying to assist and calm nerves, bc believe it or not, ive already gone thru that stage of the process and KNOW what im talking about, you dont have to be so darn rude about it.

if you dont want my help, put me on ignore.

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"VJ Timelines are only an estimate, they are not actual approval dates! They only reflect VJ members. VJ Timelines do not include the thousands of applicants who do not use VJ"

IF YOU ARE NEW TO THE SITE, PLEASE READ THE GUIDES BEFORE ASKING ALOT OF QUESTIONS. THE GUIDES ARE VERY HELPFUL AND WILL SAVE YOU ALOT OF TIME!

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this is a b process

i think i should have made my hubby stay in Aruba and direct file

does go faster

i recommend you to do that Narina, when in holland if you decide to do

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03/02 Received NVC

04/02 Case Number

05/02 DS-3032 Gen

06/02 DS-3032 email

09/02 Received DS-3032&I-864 Bill

10/02 Pay I-864

11/02 AOS bill PAID

11/02 IV Bill Gen

11/02 Pay IV

11/02 IV Bill PAID

26/02 Mail AOS&IV Package

Stuck at NVC :-(

10/3 Medical PASSED!

11/3 AVR states IV paid (1 month after it got paid)

K-3:

04/02 At NVC

05/02 Left NVC

At Embassy, DHL 9 FEB

19/02 Embassy gave me apt for K-3

31/03 Interview Date

K-3 In HAND!!!!!

04/04/09 POE: ARUBA

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I love the Immigration Syndrome analogy lol :rofl: We can all use some humor in these trying times. Maybe we should consider making Tshirts ;-p I also feel like I am in limbo land. My husband and I always say how our lives are on hold ...we want to start a life together and plan for our future already! We've been a couple for 1 yr and a half and since then we are still in this uncertain state of being on 2 different continents...so not funny!!! :crying: In addition to the emotional stress there is the financial stress of holding down the fort with only one bread winner while the other is stuck overseas!

A response to Aurbadolphin's quote: "I know how you feel I am at the same right now, but mine is between crying, yelling, exploding, or just numb.

My husband poor him is dealing with a very big Volcano, and he really doesn't know what mood I am in when i call him or when he calls me

I am so depressed, that well nothing helps anymore!!!!!!"

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND HOW YOU FEEL GIVEN U'VE BEEN WAITING FOR 249 DAYS! I AM ABSOLUTELY SURE I WOULD FEEL THAT WAY WITH EVERY PASSING DAY ESPECIALLY ONCE WE PASS THE 8 MONS. WAIT TIME AND HEAR NOTHING!! RIGHT NOW I KNOW IT WOULD TAKE A MIRACLE FOR MY HUSBAND TO GET APPROVED...IF IT HAPPENED I WOULDN'T BELIEVE IT! (SORRY ABT THE CAPLOCK...NOT YELLING...JUST WANTED TO SEPARATE MY RESPONSE FROM ARUBADOLPHIN'S COMMENT).

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NVC Journey: Finally OVER APRIL 21, 2009!!! INTERVIEW PASSED 05/12/09; VISA IN HAND 05/20/09

03/05/09: K3 and I 130 both approved! FINALLY after 230 emotionally trying days @ VSC!!

03/06/2009 : NVC Received; 03/09/09 Case Number Assigned; 03/10/09 K3 stuck in AP

03/17/2009 : AOS/IV fee bills generated (by email @ 10:00 p.m.); 03/18/2009 : AOS/IV fee bills paid online

03/27/2009 : AOS/DS 230 package sent to NVC; 04/02/2009 : AOS & DS-230 entered into NVC system

04/14/2009 : Found out K3 was forwarded to the consulate in Leb and CR1 stuck in AP; 04/18/09: K3 delivered

04/20/09: WOOHOO CR1 already out of AP; DS 230/AOS accepted with no RFEs!! Sign in failed on NVC payment site.

04/21/09: MAGIC CASE COMPLETE @ 4:30 P.M. THANK U GOD!!!

04/27/09: Hubby passed his medical; CR1 interview assigned for June 17th By NVC; but changed to MAY 12th after emailing embassy on 05/05/09 )

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Interview Passed 05/12/09!!! Visa in hand 05/20/09!!! POE: 05/23/09

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REUNITED JUST IN TIME FOR MY BDAY AND WEDDING ANNIVERSARY!!!! PRAISE BE TO GOD!

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who isnt allowed to complain? i havent seen you not complain or let anyone stop you at all.

I have already explained the process to you in very deep detail...coming directly from a worker from USCIS. Actually was explaining it to arubadolphin, bc she tries to understand and doesnt believe USCIS is just trying to screw her for the heck of it.

If you choose not to understand and think its a vendeta against YOU...then thats fine....but when im sitting here trying to assist and calm nerves, bc believe it or not, ive already gone thru that stage of the process and KNOW what im talking about, you dont have to be so darn rude about it.

if you dont want my help, put me on ignore.

Oh puleez...you have bashed not only me but others who have complained on the K-3 forum over in your "other world"... Meanwhile you send hugs and roses to your friends when they break a nail.

If you think I'm being rude, then you can also ignore me. As you said, you're already done with the process, so why don't you go and enjoy your life with your husband? And leave "b1tches" like me alone?????

Do I think USCIS is trying to screw me over intentionally? Well, let's see...not until I found out you had a friend there. For all I know you could have told your friend to take my application and burn it. I don't believe for half a second that you would sincerely do anything to benefit me. The one time you were nice to me in your posts a few weeks back, it turned out you were trashing me elsewhere. So forgive me if I'm not entirely grateful to you for your help.

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Your argument makes no sense. We have to provide information to the reps to disclose our relationship to the case. That is the the level of security. Putting a barcode on a file does not compromise the security of that file. If it did, companies like Lockheed and Harris would be in a lot of trouble for coding their military ordnance in the way that they do. And, I have news for you. It is a federal offense for anyone to provide information on financial data (banks, credit cards) without authorization. You've got to to better than this. Don't be an apologist for a broken system. Hope for improvements. If our legal immigration system worked better, maybe we would not have the crisis we have today at the Mexican border. THAT is a national security issue.

I hear you, but I do not buy the argument that a rep can't look at a computer screen and see 3 lines typed from an adjudicator regarding the status of a case. "ON HOLD BECAUSE OF BACKGROUND CHECK". That took me 6 seconds to type. One bar code placed on a file could provide a queue status of the file, just like our groceries going past a scanner. Banks, credit card companies, utility companies, they perform this service every day. And, these reps are not all Ph.D's making 100 grand a year. Our government can develop a Blackberry for our president that is totally impervious to cyber-spying, but they can't do some of the same things that a $10 an hour rep at a back-office call center does every day? No, I don't accept that.

sure, applicants should be entitled to the reason why they are waiting so long, however when you call USCIS you are speaking with a rep, not an adjudicator, and they dont know anymore than you know why your case is taking so long. They have basic info, if its been recieved...bla bla, but they know hardly more than that. Also, expecting adjudicators, or even CSR's to send out correspondence to EVERY applicant on why its taking longer than 6 months, is causing a longer delay, as that is extra work (that would be sending over 1 million letters of explanation, its not do-able). Because they do say its an estimated time, that is what it is, its an estimation, not a promise.

If they could tell you....they would. I know all of you think the CSR's are evil lil trolls out to ruin your lives hopes and dreams, they're not, they are giving you the info they can give you. Your case files also are delicate....they are not going to let any Tom, ####### or Harry having a looksie at it. Compare USCIS reps to lets say, your electric company reps....your electric bill isnt half as confidential as your immigration case forms. Therefore your reps at (ill use mine) GRU can give me just about any info i ask for....but when your dealing with USCIS...and such again delicate information, they are not going to give reps that kind of information on you. even if its just to say " your in AR process" even that comes directly in the snail mail or to your email address thru a highly secure email server.

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who isnt allowed to complain? i havent seen you not complain or let anyone stop you at all.

I have already explained the process to you in very deep detail...coming directly from a worker from USCIS. Actually was explaining it to arubadolphin, bc she tries to understand and doesnt believe USCIS is just trying to screw her for the heck of it.

If you choose not to understand and think its a vendeta against YOU...then thats fine....but when im sitting here trying to assist and calm nerves, bc believe it or not, ive already gone thru that stage of the process and KNOW what im talking about, you dont have to be so darn rude about it.

if you dont want my help, put me on ignore.

Oh puleez...you have bashed not only me but others who have complained on the K-3 forum over in your "other world"... Meanwhile you send hugs and roses to your friends when they break a nail.

If you think I'm being rude, then you can also ignore me. As you said, you're already done with the process, so why don't you go and enjoy your life with your husband? And leave "b1tches" like me alone?????

Do I think USCIS is trying to screw me over intentionally? Well, let's see...not until I found out you had a friend there. For all I know you could have told your friend to take my application and burn it. I don't believe for half a second that you would sincerely do anything to benefit me. The one time you were nice to me in your posts a few weeks back, it turned out you were trashing me elsewhere. So forgive me if I'm not entirely grateful to you for your help.

:rofl: :rofl:

Yes bc i told my friend to look out for the petition of the girl who is ungrateful and whiny. geez....that would be so easy to find :wacko:

And since when do members have to leave VJ when they are done with the process? I think i missed the memo where you were the admin :whistle:

You dont want my advise bc it isnt what YOU want to hear, bc like others i do not kiss your ####### like you are queen of the K3 forum. THAT is why you dont like me or my advice, you know i know more about this process than you will ever learn, but bc how what i just said, you would never take the advice. NOW....as i was saying, i was helping other ppl with the process, honestly i dont have time for ppl who could care less about being helped and only want to whine and scream about how USCIS hates only them and is out to get them (they are the boogie man)....you can take the help from ppl who have already been there done that, or you can continue to be clueless, thats your prob not mine. :) Not once have i bashed you on VJ today, nor was i rude, until you attacked me.

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"VJ Timelines are only an estimate, they are not actual approval dates! They only reflect VJ members. VJ Timelines do not include the thousands of applicants who do not use VJ"

IF YOU ARE NEW TO THE SITE, PLEASE READ THE GUIDES BEFORE ASKING ALOT OF QUESTIONS. THE GUIDES ARE VERY HELPFUL AND WILL SAVE YOU ALOT OF TIME!

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Your argument makes no sense. We have to provide information to the reps to disclose our relationship to the case. That is the the level of security. Putting a barcode on a file does not compromise the security of that file. If it did, companies like Lockheed and Harris would be in a lot of trouble for coding their military ordnance in the way that they do. And, I have news for you. It is a federal offense for anyone to provide information on financial data (banks, credit cards) without authorization. You've got to to better than this. Don't be an apologist for a broken system. Hope for improvements. If our legal immigration system worked better, maybe we would not have the crisis we have today at the Mexican border. THAT is a national security issue.

I hear you, but I do not buy the argument that a rep can't look at a computer screen and see 3 lines typed from an adjudicator regarding the status of a case. "ON HOLD BECAUSE OF BACKGROUND CHECK". That took me 6 seconds to type. One bar code placed on a file could provide a queue status of the file, just like our groceries going past a scanner. Banks, credit card companies, utility companies, they perform this service every day. And, these reps are not all Ph.D's making 100 grand a year. Our government can develop a Blackberry for our president that is totally impervious to cyber-spying, but they can't do some of the same things that a $10 an hour rep at a back-office call center does every day? No, I don't accept that.

sure, applicants should be entitled to the reason why they are waiting so long, however when you call USCIS you are speaking with a rep, not an adjudicator, and they dont know anymore than you know why your case is taking so long. They have basic info, if its been recieved...bla bla, but they know hardly more than that. Also, expecting adjudicators, or even CSR's to send out correspondence to EVERY applicant on why its taking longer than 6 months, is causing a longer delay, as that is extra work (that would be sending over 1 million letters of explanation, its not do-able). Because they do say its an estimated time, that is what it is, its an estimation, not a promise.

If they could tell you....they would. I know all of you think the CSR's are evil lil trolls out to ruin your lives hopes and dreams, they're not, they are giving you the info they can give you. Your case files also are delicate....they are not going to let any Tom, ####### or Harry having a looksie at it. Compare USCIS reps to lets say, your electric company reps....your electric bill isnt half as confidential as your immigration case forms. Therefore your reps at (ill use mine) GRU can give me just about any info i ask for....but when your dealing with USCIS...and such again delicate information, they are not going to give reps that kind of information on you. even if its just to say " your in AR process" even that comes directly in the snail mail or to your email address thru a highly secure email server.

It is a level of security for the info they can give you. and as i sd AGAIN AND AGAIN....the info they can give you .....is not much at all. its not their faults...but i guess its just easier to blame them then understand this is the process and we chose to go thru it.

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"VJ Timelines are only an estimate, they are not actual approval dates! They only reflect VJ members. VJ Timelines do not include the thousands of applicants who do not use VJ"

IF YOU ARE NEW TO THE SITE, PLEASE READ THE GUIDES BEFORE ASKING ALOT OF QUESTIONS. THE GUIDES ARE VERY HELPFUL AND WILL SAVE YOU ALOT OF TIME!

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I am Tired, Fed up, depressed, and well not a big fan off USCIS at all

I have no choice to be in this limbo, but i have all the right in the world to ###### because others get approved first no matter what the reasons are that there cases happened to be on the pile that gets handled.

I agree with the ones jumping ahead of the line that got an Expedite approved, but that is the extent of my humanity

IF i had a choice i wouldn't be going thru this, My husband is the only one that is working

so making thins hard especially since he is the only one able to travel and has very little vacation days.

i really ran out of hope.

My mom told me to stay away off the uscis site because it will make me go insane

starting to think she's right

this is an insanity what they put us through

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03/02 Received NVC

04/02 Case Number

05/02 DS-3032 Gen

06/02 DS-3032 email

09/02 Received DS-3032&I-864 Bill

10/02 Pay I-864

11/02 AOS bill PAID

11/02 IV Bill Gen

11/02 Pay IV

11/02 IV Bill PAID

26/02 Mail AOS&IV Package

Stuck at NVC :-(

10/3 Medical PASSED!

11/3 AVR states IV paid (1 month after it got paid)

K-3:

04/02 At NVC

05/02 Left NVC

At Embassy, DHL 9 FEB

19/02 Embassy gave me apt for K-3

31/03 Interview Date

K-3 In HAND!!!!!

04/04/09 POE: ARUBA

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My point is, it may be the info those reps can provide, but it's the info they can provide based on the system that is in place. And the system is weak, borderline pathetic. You do not need NASA engineering to do a few basic upgrades of inventory management that would improve the system, which would allow CSR's and adjudicators to exchange data and provide it to customers. It's been happening since the 1970's.

And, you shouldn't take all of this personally. Your debate is interesting. I am sure if any of us spoke to a USCIS rep behind closed doors, they'd tell you they would like to provide more help, but they operate within a system that is hopelessly flawed and behind the times. The system has to be changed. And, in fact, with this administration, I think it may be.

Your argument makes no sense. We have to provide information to the reps to disclose our relationship to the case. That is the the level of security. Putting a barcode on a file does not compromise the security of that file. If it did, companies like Lockheed and Harris would be in a lot of trouble for coding their military ordnance in the way that they do. And, I have news for you. It is a federal offense for anyone to provide information on financial data (banks, credit cards) without authorization. You've got to to better than this. Don't be an apologist for a broken system. Hope for improvements. If our legal immigration system worked better, maybe we would not have the crisis we have today at the Mexican border. THAT is a national security issue.

I hear you, but I do not buy the argument that a rep can't look at a computer screen and see 3 lines typed from an adjudicator regarding the status of a case. "ON HOLD BECAUSE OF BACKGROUND CHECK". That took me 6 seconds to type. One bar code placed on a file could provide a queue status of the file, just like our groceries going past a scanner. Banks, credit card companies, utility companies, they perform this service every day. And, these reps are not all Ph.D's making 100 grand a year. Our government can develop a Blackberry for our president that is totally impervious to cyber-spying, but they can't do some of the same things that a $10 an hour rep at a back-office call center does every day? No, I don't accept that.

sure, applicants should be entitled to the reason why they are waiting so long, however when you call USCIS you are speaking with a rep, not an adjudicator, and they dont know anymore than you know why your case is taking so long. They have basic info, if its been recieved...bla bla, but they know hardly more than that. Also, expecting adjudicators, or even CSR's to send out correspondence to EVERY applicant on why its taking longer than 6 months, is causing a longer delay, as that is extra work (that would be sending over 1 million letters of explanation, its not do-able). Because they do say its an estimated time, that is what it is, its an estimation, not a promise.

If they could tell you....they would. I know all of you think the CSR's are evil lil trolls out to ruin your lives hopes and dreams, they're not, they are giving you the info they can give you. Your case files also are delicate....they are not going to let any Tom, ####### or Harry having a looksie at it. Compare USCIS reps to lets say, your electric company reps....your electric bill isnt half as confidential as your immigration case forms. Therefore your reps at (ill use mine) GRU can give me just about any info i ask for....but when your dealing with USCIS...and such again delicate information, they are not going to give reps that kind of information on you. even if its just to say " your in AR process" even that comes directly in the snail mail or to your email address thru a highly secure email server.

It is a level of security for the info they can give you. and as i sd AGAIN AND AGAIN....the info they can give you .....is not much at all. its not their faults...but i guess its just easier to blame them then understand this is the process and we chose to go thru it.

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My point is, it may be the info those reps can provide, but it's the info they can provide based on the system that is in place. And the system is weak, borderline pathetic. You do not need NASA engineering to do a few basic upgrades of inventory management that would improve the system, which would allow CSR's and adjudicators to exchange data and provide it to customers. It's been happening since the 1970's.

And, you shouldn't take all of this personally. Your debate is interesting. I am sure if any of us spoke to a USCIS rep behind closed doors, they'd tell you they would like to provide more help, but they operate within a system that is hopelessly flawed and behind the times. The system has to be changed. And, in fact, with this administration, I think it may be.

Your argument makes no sense. We have to provide information to the reps to disclose our relationship to the case. That is the the level of security. Putting a barcode on a file does not compromise the security of that file. If it did, companies like Lockheed and Harris would be in a lot of trouble for coding their military ordnance in the way that they do. And, I have news for you. It is a federal offense for anyone to provide information on financial data (banks, credit cards) without authorization. You've got to to better than this. Don't be an apologist for a broken system. Hope for improvements. If our legal immigration system worked better, maybe we would not have the crisis we have today at the Mexican border. THAT is a national security issue.

I hear you, but I do not buy the argument that a rep can't look at a computer screen and see 3 lines typed from an adjudicator regarding the status of a case. "ON HOLD BECAUSE OF BACKGROUND CHECK". That took me 6 seconds to type. One bar code placed on a file could provide a queue status of the file, just like our groceries going past a scanner. Banks, credit card companies, utility companies, they perform this service every day. And, these reps are not all Ph.D's making 100 grand a year. Our government can develop a Blackberry for our president that is totally impervious to cyber-spying, but they can't do some of the same things that a $10 an hour rep at a back-office call center does every day? No, I don't accept that.

sure, applicants should be entitled to the reason why they are waiting so long, however when you call USCIS you are speaking with a rep, not an adjudicator, and they dont know anymore than you know why your case is taking so long. They have basic info, if its been recieved...bla bla, but they know hardly more than that. Also, expecting adjudicators, or even CSR's to send out correspondence to EVERY applicant on why its taking longer than 6 months, is causing a longer delay, as that is extra work (that would be sending over 1 million letters of explanation, its not do-able). Because they do say its an estimated time, that is what it is, its an estimation, not a promise.

If they could tell you....they would. I know all of you think the CSR's are evil lil trolls out to ruin your lives hopes and dreams, they're not, they are giving you the info they can give you. Your case files also are delicate....they are not going to let any Tom, ####### or Harry having a looksie at it. Compare USCIS reps to lets say, your electric company reps....your electric bill isnt half as confidential as your immigration case forms. Therefore your reps at (ill use mine) GRU can give me just about any info i ask for....but when your dealing with USCIS...and such again delicate information, they are not going to give reps that kind of information on you. even if its just to say " your in AR process" even that comes directly in the snail mail or to your email address thru a highly secure email server.

It is a level of security for the info they can give you. and as i sd AGAIN AND AGAIN....the info they can give you .....is not much at all. its not their faults...but i guess its just easier to blame them then understand this is the process and we chose to go thru it.

Oh i dont take anything personally :) its just frustrating when ppl choose not to accept help, but then complain when they dont hear the anwer they were hoping for. :)

I agree 100% the reps COULD give you the answers you seek. Their system is #######....and they should be entrusted to have atleast 60% of the information of your case, it would put a lot more stress behind ppl seeking reasons for their petitions taking so long.

I am Tired, Fed up, depressed, and well not a big fan off USCIS at all

I have no choice to be in this limbo, but i have all the right in the world to ###### because others get approved first no matter what the reasons are that there cases happened to be on the pile that gets handled.

I agree with the ones jumping ahead of the line that got an Expedite approved, but that is the extent of my humanity

IF i had a choice i wouldn't be going thru this, My husband is the only one that is working

so making thins hard especially since he is the only one able to travel and has very little vacation days.

i really ran out of hope.

My mom told me to stay away off the uscis site because it will make me go insane

starting to think she's right

this is an insanity what they put us through

I would for a couple days, i did the same thing, i checked that site every hour until i got the approval. And i had an RFE, for something not needed, which delayed my case even more and shouldnt have. Take a break from it, your moms right, it will throw you into insane mode. I hope you get that approval quickly as well as your visa.

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