Obama Tells GOP: I Won

[mox 298]

I'm sure it's my lack of comprehension of your point but, it seems to me, you were suggestion Gitmo was in some way a "house of Horrors". The only negative report I recall hearing was one incident concerning the handling of the Koran.

I, and many others, consider routine torture--sorry, "enhanced interrogation techniques"--a "house of horrors." Pretty much by definition, actually.

[rebeccajo 14]

I also didn't vote for either. There were other candidates. This supposed economic stimulas plan is not the largest. It will end up being after the two sides get together and they add the ####### rthat is usual. It is the same old failed plan that the other party did. Huge spending. Big Tax cuts that equal a huge deficit that is very harmful. This is not change.

Closing Gitmo only means the prisoners move elsewhere. Just because he is making gestures that are meaningless does not mean he is bringing change. He is doing the same old failed of policies.

You could always go live in Vietnam.

Why would I live there? I love where I live now. If you are saying that I should live out of the states because I don't like the two political parties that most vote then you are a moron.

All I'm saying is that you have choices.

Yes I never said I hate my country ever anywhere. You find that I did then let us all know. And you think That I think the Reps and Dems are the same old same old that I need to go live somewhere else? Ok then I guess you are a genius. Are we supposed to only post our political idea if the are only of the two major parties?

Perhaps you have not said anywhere that you hate your country. I don't follow you about so I can't say. But when I do see you posting about politics, you're fairly unhappy with the state of things. A good deal unhappy, in fact.

I think one of the blessings of an international relationship is the option to live in either country. The political climate (if it's bad enough) is one possible reason I personally would consider leaving my homeland. I should add that it wouldn't be mere politics that would make me go, but if the outcome of the politics becomes ruination, then yes I would leave.

It's not uncommon to hear people comment that if so-and-so is elected, they'd rather live this-place-or-that. It's also not uncommon, though, for those people to usually be talking out of their hat. Those of us who inhabit this community have usually seen life in other parts of the world. If we are reflective after those experiences, we can then better weigh the American experience.

Have you?

Edited January 25, 2009 by rebeccajo

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Here comes a big dose of "Quit your whining and shut the hell up," to the GOP...

Poll: 68% approve of president's first days

WASHINGTON - Barack Obama is enjoying about a two-thirds approval rating for his first days as president, a poll released Saturday found.

The Gallup Organization survey found 68 percent of Americans approve of Obama's performance as the nation's chief executive. That's a number near the high end for new presidents, but short of President John F. Kennedy's 72 percent in 1961.

The poll also found that 12 percent in the survey disapprove of Obama's job performance, a typical number all presidents face after an election.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/200...maPoll0125.html

Edited January 25, 2009 by Mister Fancypants

[luckytxn 2,264]

Actually yes I have been blessed to have been all over the world. Europe and Asia, Central America and the northern part of South America, Phillipines. Few have traveled and lived in other countried as much as I. A few years total in Asia of course and I am also very attuned politically. Now it is very moronic to say to live out of my beloved country because I don't like the two major parties. I have never and never will say if someone wins I will leave the country. That is a stupid thing to say. I have seen others say it of course. I will always live where I do and will say what I think of politics. Don't like it then post something to that effect or move on. No sweat off my brow. You obvious love one of the two major parties. That is ok and good luck. You are a sheep though

Edited January 25, 2009 by luckytxn

[Ban Hammer 13,355]

Here comes a big dose of "Quit your whining and shut the hell up," to the GOP...

Poll: 68% approve of president's first days

WASHINGTON - Barack Obama is enjoying about a two-thirds approval rating for his first days as president, a poll released Saturday found.

The Gallup Organization survey found 68 percent of Americans approve of Obama's performance as the nation's chief executive. That's a number near the high end for new presidents, but short of President John F. Kennedy's 72 percent in 1961.

The poll also found that 12 percent in the survey disapprove of Obama's job performance, a typical number all presidents face after an election.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/200...maPoll0125.html

ah gotta love it, polls say it, so everyone should be quiet about it.

[rebeccajo 14]

Actually yes I have been blessed to have been all over the world. Europe and Asia, Central America and the northern part of South America, Phillipines. Few have traveled and lived in other countried as much as I. A few years total in Asia of course and I am also very attuned politically. Now it is very moronic to say to live out of my beloved country because I don't like the two major parties. I have never and never will say if someone wins I will leave the country. That is a stupid thing to say. I have seen others say it of course. I will always live where I do and will say what I think of politics. Don't like it then post something to that effect or move on. No sweat off my brow. You obvious love one of the two major parties. That is ok and good luck. You are a sheep though

Just because someone doesn't see things the way you do doesn't make them a sheep. Or a moron.

[luckytxn 2,264]

Actually to follow a major party is known as being a sheep. And before you go again and snitching to the mods again. I said if one is asking someone to leave their country to live because of the reason stated that they are a moron. Not that they WERE as moron. Big difference.

[rebeccajo 14]

Actually to follow a major party is known as being a sheep. And before you go again and snitching to the mods again. I said if one is asking someone to leave their country to live because of the reason stated that they are a moron. Not that they WERE as moron. Big difference.

I hate to burst your bubble, but I never hit the report button or PM'd a mod about your comments. I have no idea why Mags stepped into the thread earlier, but it had nothing to do with me 'snitching'.

And that's your opinion that following a major party makes a person a 'sheep'. It's not a 'known'.

Furthermore I never 'asked' you to leave your country. I said you could if you like.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Here comes a big dose of "Quit your whining and shut the hell up," to the GOP...

Poll: 68% approve of president's first days

WASHINGTON - Barack Obama is enjoying about a two-thirds approval rating for his first days as president, a poll released Saturday found.

The Gallup Organization survey found 68 percent of Americans approve of Obama's performance as the nation's chief executive. That's a number near the high end for new presidents, but short of President John F. Kennedy's 72 percent in 1961.

The poll also found that 12 percent in the survey disapprove of Obama's job performance, a typical number all presidents face after an election.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/200...maPoll0125.html

ah gotta love it, polls say it, so everyone should be quiet about it.

Follow the thread, Charles ....I'm talking about Sen. Kyle and other GOP members in Congress to stop acting as if they have some mandate from the American people. What they have is an ideological difference which I think deserves respect, but under these circumstances with Obama winning by a large majority with a high approval rating, they need to set aside their objections on ideological grounds and work towards a bipartisan solution....and bipartisan doesn't necessarily mean, a little of this side and a little of that side.

Edited January 25, 2009 by Mister Fancypants

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Here comes a big dose of "Quit your whining and shut the hell up," to the GOP...

Poll: 68% approve of president's first days

WASHINGTON - Barack Obama is enjoying about a two-thirds approval rating for his first days as president, a poll released Saturday found.

The Gallup Organization survey found 68 percent of Americans approve of Obama's performance as the nation's chief executive. That's a number near the high end for new presidents, but short of President John F. Kennedy's 72 percent in 1961.

The poll also found that 12 percent in the survey disapprove of Obama's job performance, a typical number all presidents face after an election.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/200...maPoll0125.html

ah gotta love it, polls say it, so everyone should be quiet about it.

He hasn't done anything. Aristotle said, to avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, be nothing. So far, Obama's ratings reflect that he does that just fine.

[Peikko 1,575]

People should be critical of Obama, complacency once you have voted is reckless. However, to poo poo at every time, just because you don't like them. Churlish.

[Danno 1,228]

Here comes a big dose of "Quit your whining and shut the hell up," to the GOP...

Poll: 68% approve of president's first days

WASHINGTON - Barack Obama is enjoying about a two-thirds approval rating for his first days as president, a poll released Saturday found.

The Gallup Organization survey found 68 percent of Americans approve of Obama's performance as the nation's chief executive. That's a number near the high end for new presidents, but short of President John F. Kennedy's 72 percent in 1961.

The poll also found that 12 percent in the survey disapprove of Obama's job performance, a typical number all presidents face after an election.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/200...maPoll0125.html

ah gotta love it, polls say it, so everyone should be quiet about it.

Follow the thread, Charles ....I'm talking about Sen. Kyle and other GOP members in Congress to stop acting as if they have some mandate from the American people. What they have is an ideological difference which I think deserves respect, but under these circumstances with Obama winning by a large majority with a high approval rating, they need to set aside their objections on ideological grounds and work towards a bipartisan solution....and bipartisan doesn't necessarily mean, a little of this side and a little of that side.

IF a Senator ran a campaign (as obama did) based on certain issues and positions, why would not this senator (as well as Obama) be doing the right thing to fight for the issues he ran on and won office on?

Though it might put this Senator and Obama at odds.

Obama is not the only one who has campaign promises to fulfill.

[Danno 1,228]

I'm sure it's my lack of comprehension of your point but, it seems to me, you were suggestion Gitmo was in some way a "house of Horrors". The only negative report I recall hearing was one incident concerning the handling of the Koran.

I, and many others, consider routine torture--sorry, "enhanced interrogation techniques"--a "house of horrors." Pretty much by definition, actually.

That raises a question (or two) I don't know the answer too.

1. Was in fact (as apposed to web-rumor) this waterboarding even done at Gitmo?

2. Do we know for the record how many people were waterboarded?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

No, Obama is very confident. I like that but he is going to find out that he is really just one of many. Each other Rep and Sen is also confident and have huge Egos to match. There is a huge reason that usually the house turns over in mid term elections. If that happens again then the Neocons will be in and Obama will find himself having a tough time. A spokesperson of that party will then be up there and say to the press the exact same thing. Obama will remember what he said. The changes everyone thought would happen will need to be done in the next two years. I am seeing no change from the last regime so far.

Its been 4 days!

And signing the closing of Gitmo and preparing to push through the largest economic stimulus in history isn't doing anything?

p.s. I didnt' vote for McCain or Obama

He hasn't closed Gitmo, just apointed a panel to study closing it. And preparing to do something isn't much either. That amounts to nothing, so far. Also, nowhereman cited a poll on another thread saying that Obama already has a 70+ percent approval rating after 4 days. If he can have a high approval rating after 4 days and doing nothing, he's got nowhere to go but down.

I like confidence and Obama the Socialist is very confident that his party will hold the strings of power for many years.

Don't mistake confidence for naivete.

Don't confuse them either.

I'm not confused. I know he's naive.

Edited January 26, 2009 by Virtual wife

[luckytxn 2,264]

I had read he signed an executive order for Gitmo to be closed within a year.