Preparing my I130 packet...need some ?'s answered.

[222halo 0]

6. Would it be okay if I fill out the i130 pdf on my computer and print it out?

DEFINTELY!! That's how my wife and I have done all of ours! Typed text has the advantage of being easier to read, which means fewer possible mistakes! If you cannot fill all the empty fields that don't apply to you or your spouse because adobe acrobat reader won't let you, it's perfectly alright to fill them in by hand. One example of this would be on my and my wife's G-325As. There are some fields that will only take a number. If you enter anything else, it turns them to 0's. So we left them blank, printed the form and hand wrote N/A in all of them.

7. I noticed that the 3 affidavits seem to say that my residence is in Pakistan....this won't be a problem will it. It says my name, then my fathers name and then notes my residence as my husbands.....would this cause a problem since I am putting my residence here in the u.s on the i130 form?

This one is a little borderline... perhaps one of the other denizens would know more than I. Without having seen them and to be on the safe side, if it was me, I'd make sure they match and are the correct address.

8. Only sort of proof I currently have are these affidavits, of people who were witnesses and ADVOCATES of my nikah...civil wedding and wedding ceremony(it states these facts in the affidavit), plus my wedding photo session pictures of us together...I believe I will be sending in 3 of us together, and the nikah naama....which is the marriage certificate translated into English...should I also send in the original, or copy of the original urdu one? I don't have anything else, could I send in the receipt for the money gram my husband sent me for $700.00 a few weeks ago or would that be too suspicious or something?

If you had your marriage certificate translated, then you know the drill. If they gave you one of each at the solemnization of your marriage, then I'd say just send the english version. If you send the urdu copy it could complicate things. Best to let them ask for it, in my humble opinion. Wouldn't hurt to keep asking around about this question to see what the more experienced persons here say about this one. My gut tells me, don't send the urdu copy.

Definitely send the receipt of the money gram for $700.00. Financial support is a good indicator of an ongoing relationship. I'm sending receipts of all the Western Union money transfers I've sent my wife, along with the corresponding bank records showing the amount and date of the withdrawals. Nothing suspicious about a husband supporting his wife in my opinon.

Does this answer questions 6, 7 and 8 for you?

Andy

[MumtazG38 1]

6. Would it be okay if I fill out the i130 pdf on my computer and print it out?

DEFINTELY!! That's how my wife and I have done all of ours! Typed text has the advantage of being easier to read, which means fewer possible mistakes! If you cannot fill all the empty fields that don't apply to you or your spouse because adobe acrobat reader won't let you, it's perfectly alright to fill them in by hand. One example of this would be on my and my wife's G-325As. There are some fields that will only take a number. If you enter anything else, it turns them to 0's. So we left them blank, printed the form and hand wrote N/A in all of them.

7. I noticed that the 3 affidavits seem to say that my residence is in Pakistan....this won't be a problem will it. It says my name, then my fathers name and then notes my residence as my husbands.....would this cause a problem since I am putting my residence here in the u.s on the i130 form?

This one is a little borderline... perhaps one of the other denizens would know more than I. Without having seen them and to be on the safe side, if it was me, I'd make sure they match and are the correct address.

8. Only sort of proof I currently have are these affidavits, of people who were witnesses and ADVOCATES of my nikah...civil wedding and wedding ceremony(it states these facts in the affidavit), plus my wedding photo session pictures of us together...I believe I will be sending in 3 of us together, and the nikah naama....which is the marriage certificate translated into English...should I also send in the original, or copy of the original urdu one? I don't have anything else, could I send in the receipt for the money gram my husband sent me for $700.00 a few weeks ago or would that be too suspicious or something?

If you had your marriage certificate translated, then you know the drill. If they gave you one of each at the solemnization of your marriage, then I'd say just send the english version. If you send the urdu copy it could complicate things. Best to let them ask for it, in my humble opinion. Wouldn't hurt to keep asking around about this question to see what the more experienced persons here say about this one. My gut tells me, don't send the urdu copy.

Definitely send the receipt of the money gram for $700.00. Financial support is a good indicator of an ongoing relationship. I'm sending receipts of all the Western Union money transfers I've sent my wife, along with the corresponding bank records showing the amount and date of the withdrawals. Nothing suspicious about a husband supporting his wife in my opinon.

Does this answer questions 6, 7 and 8 for you?

Andy

Yes....it absolutely does! Thank you so much!!!!!

[MumtazG38 1]

7. I noticed that the 3 affidavits seem to say that my residence is in Pakistan....this won't be a problem will it. It says my name, then my fathers name and then notes my residence as my husbands.....would this cause a problem since I am putting my residence here in the u.s on the i130 form?

This one is a little borderline... perhaps one of the other denizens would know more than I. Without having seen them and to be on the safe side, if it was me, I'd make sure they match and are the correct address.

8. Only sort of proof I currently have are these affidavits, of people who were witnesses and ADVOCATES of my nikah...civil wedding and wedding ceremony(it states these facts in the affidavit), plus my wedding photo session pictures of us together...I believe I will be sending in 3 of us together, and the nikah naama....which is the marriage certificate translated into English...should I also send in the original, or copy of the original urdu one? I don't have anything else, could I send in the receipt for the money gram my husband sent me for $700.00 a few weeks ago or would that be too suspicious or something?

If you had your marriage certificate translated, then you know the drill. If they gave you one of each at the solemnization of your marriage, then I'd say just send the english version. If you send the urdu copy it could complicate things. Best to let them ask for it, in my humble opinion. Wouldn't hurt to keep asking around about this question to see what the more experienced persons here say about this one. My gut tells me, don't send the urdu copy.

Definitely send the receipt of the money gram for $700.00. Financial support is a good indicator of an ongoing relationship. I'm sending receipts of all the Western Union money transfers I've sent my wife, along with the corresponding bank records showing the amount and date of the withdrawals. Nothing suspicious about a husband supporting his wife in my opinon.

Anyone have any other opinions...what should I do about the affidavits and the marriage certificate? Should I send in the copy of the original urdu one with the translation...or would it be best not to?

Edited January 22, 2009 by MumtazG38

[cmnb 0]

send in a photocopy of your urdu marriage certificate. also send in the english translation. the translation must affirm that the person who translated is competent to translate. if you send in just the photocopy of ur urdu certificate, it is going to be rejected as USCIS officer will not know how to read urdu (but obvious). in your cover letter make sure you explain very clearly all what you are attaching.

Edited January 22, 2009 by cmnb

[pushbrk 12,877]

ok wow......ummmmm right, well actually I have read the guides several times and have also read post from people who did some things differently and apparently everything worked out fine for them.....so I guess I was looking more for opinions rather than straight up answers....sorry, should have mentioned that. I just have a habit of trying to fit EVERYTHING in even when it won't fit.....like all those questions, making it seem like I completely haven't a clue. I did read the guides and they DO answer a few of the questions...but as you can see there are plenty of questions that are more a mater of opinions then a matter of what is written in any specific guide. Hope I didn't annoy anyone....

And thank you Moosker for the link, but I do believe the guide you are referring to is for the K3....I'm not really sure if that would work the same. Seeing as they have to fill out and send in some different forms, that may also require them to send in some different supporting doc's....so IDK. But I'll go check it out now anyways.

Thanx Moosker, Andy and pushbrk for your answers....cleared up quite a bit. Just questions 6, 7 and 8 left I believe, and I don't think the guides can help me on these ones brnidokiegurl.

Sure, type the information in the PDF form. That's why it's set up that way. My advice is to put the affidavits away and send none of them. They aren't necessary at all.

[MumtazG38 1]

Do we still need to provide beneficiary's/relatives birth cert. or passport photocopies? I read in the guides that this is not required any more?

[MumtazG38 1]

Besides being above the poverty line, what are the other requirements for the joint-sponsor? Do they HAVE TO be u.s citizens or can they be permanent residents? Does it make a difference that they know the beneficiary, they are not relatives or related in any way but someone that they are related to, their nephew I believe, did know my husband for several years before coming to the U.S. But the joint-sponsor themselves didn't know my husband?

Should I really not even bother with the affidavits??? They are stamped, notarized and even have these certified shiny golden stickers that make them look so official(oh come on, I can't be the only one impressed by this...hehe). They can probably help some in proving that I have an ongoing married relationship with my husband...it can't hurt to send them can it....it won't cause any issues right? What should I do guys.....send...or no send!!!

Also, If I don't want to send in the actual photos themselves as proof can I just send in the photocopies?

Edited January 23, 2009 by MumtazG38

[ABENITEZ 0]

Ok, I'm confused. Isn't all the detailed proof not necessary until you go through NVC or for interview? I just sent basic stuff like the nikkah, birth certificates and neccessary forms. I don't think you need to send all the real proof now???

[MumtazG38 1]

Ok, I'm confused. Isn't all the detailed proof not necessary until you go through NVC or for interview? I just sent basic stuff like the nikkah, birth certificates and neccessary forms. I don't think you need to send all the real proof now???

Here are some links to the guides that may be able to help you. I suggest definitely checking out the last one because it clearly states what types of proofs are needed...also states whether evidences are necessary. (which they are, yes.....even this early on in the process.)

Guide for unmarried/engaged couples who plan on getting married once in the states.

K1 Visa Guide

Guides for married couples.

K3 Visa Guide -- _{May take upto 2weeks less time then IR1/CR1, but cost's much more. Will not be able to work or get ssn or greencard upon arrival. Will need to apply for this later, increasing the costs} --

IR1/CR1 Visa and I-130 Petition Guide -- _{May take at least 2 weeks longer than K3 visa, but essentially is much cheaper. Beneficiary arrives either with greencard in hand, or receives it semi-automatically once in the states, along with ssn and the likes.} --

Hope this helps, .

[MumtazG38 1]

I believe the fact that all the detailed evidences are necessary even at this stage is at least partially due to the fact that firstly, the USCIS performs a smaller less detailed, yet certainly not irrelevant background check....so providing this information prevents the USCIS from asking for it and in turn dragging the time it takes to finish the USCIS process before your petition is forwarded/sent to the NVC. Secondly, IMHO...this makes the NVC process go a bit smoother in the sense that the NVC already has those evidences you sent to the USCIS, since your case was forwarded....which prevents them from asking for it and in turn causing a delay in the speed of the NVC process. So, essentially....you'd be better off in most cases if you sent as much relevant detailed evidence as you can with your petition, which would save you, most possibly a heck of a lot of time waisted sending and resending evidences...or getting and fulfilling what would be potential RFE's...like I said, IMHO.

Why does the USCIS perform background checks, and what for you may ask? Well, they want to make absolutely sure that firstly, the petitioner is a U.S citizen or permanent resident who is eligible to apply for this type of visa, secondly the petitioner is not liable to be using govt funds or welfare and the likes, and mostly because they want to make absolutely sure that the petitioner and beneficiary definitely have an ongoing relationship, marital or otherwise...depending on the visa being applied for, I assume.

Edited January 23, 2009 by MumtazG38

[MumtazG38 1]

Reposted:

Besides being above the poverty line, what are the other requirements for the joint-sponsor? Do they HAVE TO be u.s citizens or can they be permanent residents? Does it make a difference that they know the beneficiary, they are not relatives or related in any way but someone that they are related to, their nephew I believe, did know my husband for several years before coming to the U.S. But the joint-sponsor themselves didn't know my husband?

Should I really not even bother with the affidavits??? They are stamped, notarized and even have these certified shiny golden stickers that make them look so official(oh come on, I can't be the only one impressed by this...hehe). They can probably help some in proving that I have an ongoing married relationship with my husband...it can't hurt to send them can it....it won't cause any issues right? What should I do guys.....send...or no send!!!

Also, If I don't want to send in the actual photos themselves as proof can I just send in the photocopies?

Do we still need to provide beneficiary's/relatives birth cert. or passport photocopies? I read in the guides that this is not required any more?

Thank you...

[pushbrk 12,877]

I believe the fact that all the detailed evidences are necessary even at this stage is at least partially due to the fact that firstly, the USCIS performs a smaller less detailed, yet certainly not irrelevant background check....so providing this information prevents the USCIS from asking for it and in turn dragging the time it takes to finish the USCIS process before your petition is forwarded/sent to the NVC. Secondly, IMHO...this makes the NVC process go a bit smoother in the sense that the NVC already has those evidences you sent to the USCIS, since your case was forwarded....which prevents them from asking for it and in turn causing a delay in the speed of the NVC process. So, essentially....you'd be better off in most cases if you sent as much relevant detailed evidence as you can with your petition, which would save you, most possibly a heck of a lot of time waisted sending and resending evidences...or getting and fulfilling what would be potential RFE's...like I said, IMHO.

Why does the USCIS perform background checks, and what for you may ask? Well, they want to make absolutely sure that firstly, the petitioner is a U.S citizen or permanent resident who is eligible to apply for this type of visa, secondly the petitioner is not liable to be using govt funds or welfare and the likes, and mostly because they want to make absolutely sure that the petitioner and beneficiary definitely have an ongoing relationship, marital or otherwise...depending on the visa being applied for, I assume.

Nothing offered as evidence of a bona fide relationship is needed in order to conduct background checks. There are a list of categories of "in addition to the required...." evidence they suggest petitioners provide. Newlyweds really only need to show some evidence of time together and regular communication. Most actually just provide the marriage certificate and save any evidence of bona fides for the interview. Really. Bona fides evidence is to background checks as peaches are to house flies. (Peaches are produced without help from house flies.)

[ABENITEZ 0]

See, I've talked to like 3 lawyers and they all told me that really deep proof like communication proof and stuff isn't due until the interview. I think the initial filing is just letting them know that you intend to sponser your spouse and just any documentation of a real marriage is needed, i.e. the marriage certificate. They can do any background checks they want with just ur name n ss number. I don't think we are proving our relationship to the service center ppl, but when we go for the interview is when we have to prove it. Is there anyone else who only filed with the basic paperwork like I did? Cuz now I'm freaking out that I should have sent more????

[MumtazG38 1]

I don't think you needed to send more.....I'm just a victim of my own personality is all.......so I'm over doing it as usual just to keep myself from freaking out and worrying throughout the long wait for the approval.

[brnidokiegurl 0]

Things run different for everyone, for us going thru Casa most have learned you have to get all you can into the original application, anything you want them to consider because at interview they dont seem to ask or take the time to see the evidences. So go with whatever most from that area have found work, we had a large application, letters, pictures the works. Then at interview we also had a good size book, he said they barely looked at it or the albumn, so i usually encourage more not less in the application. (and he did get the visa)

After reading on here you would actually believe most lawyers to know what they are doing? NOT

good luck