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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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i am including my cellphone call details as evidence of ongoing marriage...i used phonecards that time...and i order them online and i receive the PIN number thru my email and the number to call to use the pin and make the call abroad. so the number that shows on my cell phone call details is the number i use to access the pin...i will attach a copy of the email recieving a phone cards and the number that i should call...should i highlight the times when i used the numbers to call to access the PIN number of the calling cards?

June 2004...i sat down on the bench to tie my shoelaces (literally) not knowing i would marry the man i just sat down next to...

Oct. 18, 2007...Married

Oct. 27, 2007...my beautiful son is born

USCIS IR-1/CR-1 Visa Journey

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate: Manila, Philippines

Feb. 05, 2009: I 130 sent

Feb. 12, 2009: NAO1

Feb. 17, 2009: first touch

Feb. 18, 2009: Touch

May 01, 2009: Touch and NAO2 mailed...yeah hey!

May 08, 2009: NAO2 in the mail

NVC Journey

May 15, 2009: NVC case number

May 18, 2009: Gave email add to NVC

May 28, 2009: Received DS 3032 / I-864 Bill

June 1, 2009: Paid I-864 Bill

June 5, 2009: sent AOS stuff

June 29, 2009: sent DS 230

June 28 - Aug. 8: i spent time with my boys in the philippines

IN A BIG HUGE BLUR...OUR CASE WAS COMPLETED AUGUST 5, 2009 (AFTER RFE: HUSBAND'S ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE) AND MY HUSBANDS INTERVIEW WILL BE SEPTEMBER 25, 2009...WE HOPE AND PRAY WE GET IT!

CURRENTLY DOING: PREPARING DOCUMENTS FOR MY SON'S PETITION!

...I am one day further from the last time I saw you but I am one day closer to the next time I will...

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i am including my cellphone call details as evidence of ongoing marriage...i used phonecards that time...and i order them online and i receive the PIN number thru my email and the number to call to use the pin and make the call abroad. so the number that shows on my cell phone call details is the number i use to access the pin...i will attach a copy of the email recieving a phone cards and the number that i should call...should i highlight the times when i used the numbers to call to access the PIN number of the calling cards?

This is what I am doing as well. I hope it is good enough

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i honestly think this wont be enough for a proof... also try using www.oovoo.com your husband or wife can cal you using this software from pakistan, from their pc to anywhere in the US for .01 cent a minute. holla

Ebad.

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i honestly think this wont be enough for a proof... also try using www.oovoo.com your husband or wife can cal you using this software from pakistan, from their pc to anywhere in the US for .01 cent a minute. holla

Ebad.

I agree. This is not good enough. The immigration process often requires we change behavior to assure success. Time to start collecting real evidence.

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i honestly think this wont be enough for a proof... also try using www.oovoo.com your husband or wife can cal you using this software from pakistan, from their pc to anywhere in the US for .01 cent a minute. holla

Ebad.

I agree. This is not good enough. The immigration process often requires we change behavior to assure success. Time to start collecting real evidence.

What about a child with the petitioner? Should that be a strong proof or evidence of marriage?

March 6 - NOA 1

Aug 26 - Case transferred to CSC

Sept 11 - Touched

Oct 17 - Approved

Nov 11 - Received DS3032 (beneficiary)

Nov 12 - Received AOS bill and DS3032

- Mailed DS3032

Nov 13 - Paid AOS online

Nov 14 - Shows PAID

Nov 17 - Sent AOS documents

Nov 18 - IV Bill generated

Nov 20 - Paid IV Bill Online

Nov 21 - IV Bill shows PAID for my daughter's

Nov 22 - IV Bill shows PAID for mommy

Nov 24 - Sent DS230

Nov 26 - called NVC; AOS complete; DS230 not in the system yet.

Nov 28 - called NVC again; DS230 not in the system yet

Dec 5 - called NVC; waiting for daughter's I864W

Dec 6 - sent I864W

Dec 9 - NVC received I864W

Dec 10 - CASE COMPLETE

2009

January 15, 16, 19, 20 - Medical at SLEC

FEBRUARY 6 - INTERVIEW DATE; requested additional document

Feb 9 - submitted additional document

Feb 14 - VISA IN HAND Happy Valentine's to me

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As what others said, Its really not such a BIG convincing evidence.

I must emails, chat logs,print screens and snail mails so as Cards, Joint bank account,

and affidavit from 3rd parties that knows you indeed have a bonifide marriage.

These are top heaviest evidence that can be shown by the time you'll have your interview.

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Petitioner (My Mom)

Beneficiary (My Sister 18 y.o)

06-07-19- Sent I-130

06-11-19- NOA1

02-19-20- "Initial Review, Transferred to another Visa Center"

03-11-20- APPROVED!!!

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FYI: i am not just sending my call details log...

i am sending the following:

1. Birth certificate of __________, born to the US citizen petitioner and non US citizen spouse

2. Life Insurance Policy of the US citizen petitioner claiming the non US citizen spouse and child as beneficiaries

3. Western Union Money Transfer Pick up notification by the non US citizen spouse sent by the US citizen petitioner

4. Photos of the US citizen petitioner and non US citizen spouse

5. call details

6. emails

7. affidavit from 3rd parties...

June 2004...i sat down on the bench to tie my shoelaces (literally) not knowing i would marry the man i just sat down next to...

Oct. 18, 2007...Married

Oct. 27, 2007...my beautiful son is born

USCIS IR-1/CR-1 Visa Journey

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate: Manila, Philippines

Feb. 05, 2009: I 130 sent

Feb. 12, 2009: NAO1

Feb. 17, 2009: first touch

Feb. 18, 2009: Touch

May 01, 2009: Touch and NAO2 mailed...yeah hey!

May 08, 2009: NAO2 in the mail

NVC Journey

May 15, 2009: NVC case number

May 18, 2009: Gave email add to NVC

May 28, 2009: Received DS 3032 / I-864 Bill

June 1, 2009: Paid I-864 Bill

June 5, 2009: sent AOS stuff

June 29, 2009: sent DS 230

June 28 - Aug. 8: i spent time with my boys in the philippines

IN A BIG HUGE BLUR...OUR CASE WAS COMPLETED AUGUST 5, 2009 (AFTER RFE: HUSBAND'S ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE) AND MY HUSBANDS INTERVIEW WILL BE SEPTEMBER 25, 2009...WE HOPE AND PRAY WE GET IT!

CURRENTLY DOING: PREPARING DOCUMENTS FOR MY SON'S PETITION!

...I am one day further from the last time I saw you but I am one day closer to the next time I will...

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FYI: i am not just sending my call details log...

i am sending the following:

1. Birth certificate of __________, born to the US citizen petitioner and non US citizen spouse

2. Life Insurance Policy of the US citizen petitioner claiming the non US citizen spouse and child as beneficiaries

3. Western Union Money Transfer Pick up notification by the non US citizen spouse sent by the US citizen petitioner

4. Photos of the US citizen petitioner and non US citizen spouse

5. call details

6. emails

7. affidavit from 3rd parties...

The birth certificates of child or children born to the couple are the strongest possible evidence, so much so they stand alone to trump the need for any other "non-required" evidence of bona fides at petition filing. The life insurance policy is but I would not include the entire policy. Usually I would advise against using money transfers as evidence of bona fides because they don't help and CAN hurt. In your case, they won't hurt because the two of you have lived together and had children together. Your stated "call details" are not call details but it won't hurt to send them. Some sample emails are good but if you use affidavits, make sure they affirm knowledge of the relationship. I would skip them in your case because your strongest evidence will be your children together. No need to trouble anybody to swear to your bona fides for you.

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Understanding the big picture is priceless. Anonymous

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One little question connected with the proof of relationship: how do you know, do Con.Off always ask you to show the proof before the interview?

The invitation letter says absolutely nothing to bring at the interview, even not pictures of us.This is ridiculous that NVC just gives you instructions what to bring for the interview and says nothing about proof of relationship for CR_1 visa.

Still I am bringing everything that I have with me. Everything stated above, but I am confused, why NVC doesn't aks us to bring the proof of relationship?

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One little question connected with the proof of relationship: how do you know, do Con.Off always ask you to show the proof before the interview?

The invitation letter says absolutely nothing to bring at the interview, even not pictures of us.This is ridiculous that NVC just gives you instructions what to bring for the interview and says nothing about proof of relationship for CR_1 visa.

Still I am bringing everything that I have with me. Everything stated above, but I am confused, why NVC doesn't aks us to bring the proof of relationship?

We know by studying the Guides here on VJ and from the reported experiences of others. However, there certainly are interviews where no evidence is asked for or provided and some where lots is asked for an it's not enough.

Facts are cheap...knowing how to use them is precious...
Understanding the big picture is priceless. Anonymous

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One little question connected with the proof of relationship: how do you know, do Con.Off always ask you to show the proof before the interview?

The invitation letter says absolutely nothing to bring at the interview, even not pictures of us.This is ridiculous that NVC just gives you instructions what to bring for the interview and says nothing about proof of relationship for CR_1 visa.

Still I am bringing everything that I have with me. Everything stated above, but I am confused, why NVC doesn't aks us to bring the proof of relationship?

We know by studying the Guides here on VJ and from the reported experiences of others. However, there certainly are interviews where no evidence is asked for or provided and some where lots is asked for an it's not enough.

Fine, I am still bringing everything with me .SO I will keep you informed how my interview goes this time

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FYI: i am not just sending my call details log...

i am sending the following:

1. Birth certificate of __________, born to the US citizen petitioner and non US citizen spouse

2. Life Insurance Policy of the US citizen petitioner claiming the non US citizen spouse and child as beneficiaries

3. Western Union Money Transfer Pick up notification by the non US citizen spouse sent by the US citizen petitioner

4. Photos of the US citizen petitioner and non US citizen spouse

5. call details

6. emails

7. affidavit from 3rd parties...

The birth certificates of child or children born to the couple are the strongest possible evidence, so much so they stand alone to trump the need for any other "non-required" evidence of bona fides at petition filing. The life insurance policy is but I would not include the entire policy. Usually I would advise against using money transfers as evidence of bona fides because they don't help and CAN hurt. In your case, they won't hurt because the two of you have lived together and had children together. Your stated "call details" are not call details but it won't hurt to send them. Some sample emails are good but if you use affidavits, make sure they affirm knowledge of the relationship. I would skip them in your case because your strongest evidence will be your children together. No need to trouble anybody to swear to your bona fides for you.

The life insurance includes my husband and son as beneficiarys

my son is living with my husband and i think the affidavit from 3rd persons (my moms) stating that my son lives with her and my husband too would help

sample emails usually will have the topic of my son -- maybe only 3 emails

and the money transfer would show that i am sending money to my son and my husband but maybe i should just take that out?

June 2004...i sat down on the bench to tie my shoelaces (literally) not knowing i would marry the man i just sat down next to...

Oct. 18, 2007...Married

Oct. 27, 2007...my beautiful son is born

USCIS IR-1/CR-1 Visa Journey

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate: Manila, Philippines

Feb. 05, 2009: I 130 sent

Feb. 12, 2009: NAO1

Feb. 17, 2009: first touch

Feb. 18, 2009: Touch

May 01, 2009: Touch and NAO2 mailed...yeah hey!

May 08, 2009: NAO2 in the mail

NVC Journey

May 15, 2009: NVC case number

May 18, 2009: Gave email add to NVC

May 28, 2009: Received DS 3032 / I-864 Bill

June 1, 2009: Paid I-864 Bill

June 5, 2009: sent AOS stuff

June 29, 2009: sent DS 230

June 28 - Aug. 8: i spent time with my boys in the philippines

IN A BIG HUGE BLUR...OUR CASE WAS COMPLETED AUGUST 5, 2009 (AFTER RFE: HUSBAND'S ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE) AND MY HUSBANDS INTERVIEW WILL BE SEPTEMBER 25, 2009...WE HOPE AND PRAY WE GET IT!

CURRENTLY DOING: PREPARING DOCUMENTS FOR MY SON'S PETITION!

...I am one day further from the last time I saw you but I am one day closer to the next time I will...

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FYI: i am not just sending my call details log...

i am sending the following:

1. Birth certificate of __________, born to the US citizen petitioner and non US citizen spouse

2. Life Insurance Policy of the US citizen petitioner claiming the non US citizen spouse and child as beneficiaries

3. Western Union Money Transfer Pick up notification by the non US citizen spouse sent by the US citizen petitioner

4. Photos of the US citizen petitioner and non US citizen spouse

5. call details

6. emails

7. affidavit from 3rd parties...

The birth certificates of child or children born to the couple are the strongest possible evidence, so much so they stand alone to trump the need for any other "non-required" evidence of bona fides at petition filing. The life insurance policy is but I would not include the entire policy. Usually I would advise against using money transfers as evidence of bona fides because they don't help and CAN hurt. In your case, they won't hurt because the two of you have lived together and had children together. Your stated "call details" are not call details but it won't hurt to send them. Some sample emails are good but if you use affidavits, make sure they affirm knowledge of the relationship. I would skip them in your case because your strongest evidence will be your children together. No need to trouble anybody to swear to your bona fides for you.

The life insurance includes my husband and son as beneficiarys

my son is living with my husband and i think the affidavit from 3rd persons (my moms) stating that my son lives with her and my husband too would help

sample emails usually will have the topic of my son -- maybe only 3 emails

and the money transfer would show that i am sending money to my son and my husband but maybe i should just take that out?

You have a son together and he and your husband live with your mother. You're bona fides are pretty much a given. If it were me, I wouldn't include anything extra besides your son's birth certificate the beneficiary designation and maybe a few pictures.

Facts are cheap...knowing how to use them is precious...
Understanding the big picture is priceless. Anonymous

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A Warning to Green Card Holders About Voting

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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FYI: i am not just sending my call details log...

i am sending the following:

1. Birth certificate of __________, born to the US citizen petitioner and non US citizen spouse

2. Life Insurance Policy of the US citizen petitioner claiming the non US citizen spouse and child as beneficiaries

3. Western Union Money Transfer Pick up notification by the non US citizen spouse sent by the US citizen petitioner

4. Photos of the US citizen petitioner and non US citizen spouse

5. call details

6. emails

7. affidavit from 3rd parties...

The birth certificates of child or children born to the couple are the strongest possible evidence, so much so they stand alone to trump the need for any other "non-required" evidence of bona fides at petition filing. The life insurance policy is but I would not include the entire policy. Usually I would advise against using money transfers as evidence of bona fides because they don't help and CAN hurt. In your case, they won't hurt because the two of you have lived together and had children together. Your stated "call details" are not call details but it won't hurt to send them. Some sample emails are good but if you use affidavits, make sure they affirm knowledge of the relationship. I would skip them in your case because your strongest evidence will be your children together. No need to trouble anybody to swear to your bona fides for you.

The life insurance includes my husband and son as beneficiarys

my son is living with my husband and i think the affidavit from 3rd persons (my moms) stating that my son lives with her and my husband too would help

sample emails usually will have the topic of my son -- maybe only 3 emails

and the money transfer would show that i am sending money to my son and my husband but maybe i should just take that out?

You have a son together and he and your husband live with your mother. You're bona fides are pretty much a given. If it were me, I wouldn't include anything extra besides your son's birth certificate the beneficiary designation and maybe a few pictures.

your son's birth certificate the beneficiary designation? what does this mean?

June 2004...i sat down on the bench to tie my shoelaces (literally) not knowing i would marry the man i just sat down next to...

Oct. 18, 2007...Married

Oct. 27, 2007...my beautiful son is born

USCIS IR-1/CR-1 Visa Journey

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate: Manila, Philippines

Feb. 05, 2009: I 130 sent

Feb. 12, 2009: NAO1

Feb. 17, 2009: first touch

Feb. 18, 2009: Touch

May 01, 2009: Touch and NAO2 mailed...yeah hey!

May 08, 2009: NAO2 in the mail

NVC Journey

May 15, 2009: NVC case number

May 18, 2009: Gave email add to NVC

May 28, 2009: Received DS 3032 / I-864 Bill

June 1, 2009: Paid I-864 Bill

June 5, 2009: sent AOS stuff

June 29, 2009: sent DS 230

June 28 - Aug. 8: i spent time with my boys in the philippines

IN A BIG HUGE BLUR...OUR CASE WAS COMPLETED AUGUST 5, 2009 (AFTER RFE: HUSBAND'S ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE) AND MY HUSBANDS INTERVIEW WILL BE SEPTEMBER 25, 2009...WE HOPE AND PRAY WE GET IT!

CURRENTLY DOING: PREPARING DOCUMENTS FOR MY SON'S PETITION!

...I am one day further from the last time I saw you but I am one day closer to the next time I will...

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