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People including myself are always saying that people that come to the US on a tourist visa with intent to marry and stay are committing fraud and are subject to being deported and banned.

Anyone have a link showing this actually having occured and were deported or banned?

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People including myself are always saying that people that come to the US on a tourist visa with intent to marry and stay are committing fraud and are subject to being deported and banned.

Anyone have a link showing this actually having occured and were deported or banned?

I don't have a link but I know a family friend's daughter had a deportation order for committing fraud. She married the son of also a family friend for immigration purpose. They were both 19. They messed it up during the AOS interview.

January 16, 2008 - sent I-129F (Vermont)

January 21, 2008 - NOA1

March 16, 2008 - NOA2

August 7&9,2008 - Medical K1&K2

August 21, 2008 - Paid document verification fee (P1,300)

August 27, 2008 - Interview

September 08,2008 - Document Verification request sent to NSO

Spetember 19,2008 - Document Verification done -sent back to US Embassy Manila

November 03, 2008 - Case under review

November 26, 2008 - VISA printed

November 28, 2008 - VISA in transit

December 02, 2008- VISA IN HAND

January 12, 2009 - Arrived USA, POE Los Angeles

January 21, 2009 - Got married

January 22, 2009 - Applied for SSN

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February 10, 2009 - Went to Dr. Janet Pettyjohn for form I-693

February 11, 2009 - Sent our AOS packet to Chicago

February 12, 2009 - Packet received signed for by L BOX

February 22, 2009 - Received NOA1 for AOS, EAD & AP

March 17, 2009 - Biometrics Appointment

March 21, 2009 - SSN card arrived in the mail

April 6, 2009 - took driver's license exam and passed! (written and road test)

April 10, 2009 - Repeat Biometrics Appointment

April 14,2009 - Received AP documents in the mail

April 16, 2009 - Received EAD in the mail

SEptember 4, 2009 - GREENCARD received

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You know, when we were adjusting I was in a constant panic looking for a case of misrepresentation based solely on adjusting from a tourist visa.. I never found any. The cases I did find were always complicated by fraud (using someone else's passport) or criminal background etc.

I'd be interested if someone did find a link. I have since stopped my search since we successfully adjusted.

Nothing I say is legal advice. I recommend you consult a qualified immigration attorney for any questions you may have.

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It is not fraud to adjust status from a tourist visa.

Timeline:

12-16-07 Arrival in the US from Good Ol' Blighty

02-13-08 Got married in Los Angeles

02-22-08 Civil Surgeon Appointment

Adjustment of Status

02-29-08 Sent I-130, AOS, EAD, AP (Via FedEx) to Chicago

03-03-08 Package arrived in Chicago

03-07-08 All Cheques cashed!!

03-10-08 NOAs for I-130, I-485, I-765 and I-131 received

03-16-08 NOAs for I-130, I-485, I-765 and I-131 touched

03-27-08 Biometrics Appointment at 2pm (Notice date: 03.11.08)

04-30-08 Received EAD "card production ordered" & AP Approval notices from CRIS (YESSSS!!!!!)

05-06-08 I-765 touched and AP received in the mail!

05-08-08 Received I-765 "approval notice sent" e-mail from CRIS

05-09-08 EAD received in the mail (YIIPPEEYY!!!)

08-22-08 Notice of Action for initial interview received (10-08-08)

10-08-08 AOS Interview in Los Angeles: APPROVED!!!!

10-09-08 I-485 touched! (Card Production Ordered)

10-15-08 NOAs for I-130 (approval notice) and I-485 (welcome letter) received

10-22-08 Green Card finally arrived!!!

Removing of Conditions

07-14-10 Sent I-751 (Via USPS next day delivery) to California Service Center

07-22-10 Received NOA 1

07-30-10 Received NOA 2 (Biometrics appointment on 08-11-10)

08-31-10 NOA for Removal of Conditions approved

09-02-10 Approval letter received

09-03-10 Green Card arrived!!!

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It is not fraud to adjust status from a tourist visa.

No, it isn't, but if the intent is to come to the US on a tourist visa and adjust status then it is fraud. The intent has to be there at the POE.

and just how do you prove that??? ...the USCIS cant. You came out with some 30-60 day rule that went by the wayside.

Never seen anyone fail to adjust status. Even my nephew married a lady from SE Asia, 12 days after she entered as a tourist...never had a problem, and this was their original intent.

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I finally got rid of the never ending money drain. I called the plumber, and got the problem fixed. I wish her the best.

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I think there are a couple of precedent-setting cases where this has happened. I wish I could remember. There are a few threads on here somewhere discussing them with links.

Concurrent I-130 and AOS

Nov 30 2007 - I enter US as a tourist to spend the ski season with my sweetie and figure out what we both want outta life - we plan on ending up in Canada, but...

Jan 30 2008 - We get married in Vegas! We decide to stay in the US.

Feb 08 2008 - File I-130, I-485, AP and EAD

Feb 11 2008 - Package arrives in Chicago

Feb 19 2008 - Receive NOA 1 for everything except I-485. NOA date Feb 15th

Feb 19 2008 - Touch I-130, AP, EAD

Feb 21 2008 - Receive I-485 NOA 1. NOA Date Feb 15th

Feb 22 2008 - Receive Biometrics notice, dated Feb 20th, for appointment March 11th

Feb 27 2008 - Walk in to Denver field office and have Biometrics taken early as the 11th March I'll be away

Apr 16 2008 - EAD card production ordered

Apr 16 2008 - AP approval sent

Apr 21 2008 - AP received in mail

Apr 21 2008 - EAD card production email received again - strange

Apr 24 2008 - EAD card approval notice sent email

Apr 26 2008 - EAD card received

May 03 2008 - Interview notice received -June 27th

May 22 2008 - Touch on I-485

June 09 2008 - I-130 finally shows up online and shows a touch that day, so does I-485

Jun 27 2008 - Interview - approved, stamped, received card production email. Ya-hoo!!!!

July 10 2008 - Card received

Total time from filing - approval: 4.5 months

MOVED TO SAN DIEGO!!

Lifting of Conditions

June 11 2010 - Package mailed

June 16 2010 - NOA date

July 2 2010 - Bio letter received - July 27th date

July 9 2010 - Early biometrics walk in San Marcos CA

Sept 16 2010 - Card production ordered

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It is not fraud to adjust status from a tourist visa.

No, it isn't, but if the intent is to come to the US on a tourist visa and adjust status then it is fraud. The intent has to be there at the POE.

and just how do you prove that??? ...the USCIS cant. You came out with some 30-60 day rule that went by the wayside.

Never seen anyone fail to adjust status. Even my nephew married a lady from SE Asia, 12 days after she entered as a tourist...never had a problem, and this was their original intent.

The burden of proof is on the applicant, not USCIS.

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Not trying to talk smack or offend anyone, but I think that posting this topic.. is an insult for me and some others that have adjusted from a tourist visa...

Just to give u a little taste of rainbow...

http://www.expatimmigration.com/index.php/...visa-fraud.html

The U.S. Embassy, Consular section in Manila reports the second highest number of visa fraud cases, following only the American Consulate in the Dominican Republic. The Philippine government for some time now has outlawed "mail order marriages". In addition, the US I-129F Fiancée Visa Petition carries with it two requirements which prevent a "mail order marriage":

*The couple must have met in person within two years of the visa petition. Photographs of the couple together in front of recognized locations preferably with date stamp are extremely vital.

*The lady fiancée must marry the gentleman within 90 days or return home.

The I-129F Petition for Fiancée Visa is intended for American citizens who legitimately show a genuine relationship and intention to marry with a foreign lady. Penalties under Section §1325© of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1997 (as amended) for fraud conviction are severe: 5 years imprisonment or $250,000 fine or both.

You should be more concerned about your people!! because your obviously an immigrant from the Philippines.. instead of making dumb topics and expect people to like you because of that..

have a nice day...

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08-11-06.........Met my love at my friend's party... got my eyes on her :)

10-20-06.........I finally make you mine!!

01-16-08.........Civil Wedding!! .. :))!! Officially married

AOS

11-07-08 ....... Sent AOS package to Chicago

11-11-08.........Packet delivered Yay!! (day 1)

11-20-08.........Money order's cashed!! (day 9)

11-26-08.........NOA'S in the mail dated for the 18th of November (day 15)

12-09-08.........Biometrics done! (day 28)

12-10-08.........I-765, I-485 touched! (day 29)

01-15-08.........EAD card production ordered! AP notice approval sent ! (day 65)

02-24-09.........Interview @ 12:00 pm !! (day 105)

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People including myself are always saying that people that come to the US on a tourist visa with intent to marry and stay are committing fraud and are subject to being deported and banned.

Anyone have a link showing this actually having occured and were deported or banned?

It is against the law to enter on a tourist visa with the intent to marry but how the heck does the government prove it unless they have substantial evidence like letters, email or video? :blink:

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The posters here seem to be advocating breaking the rules since it's hard to get caught? Even if getting caught leads to criminal sanctions? That means people are free to choose which rules they will follow, and which they will not? What about ethics and integrity?

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People including myself are always saying that people that come to the US on a tourist visa with intent to marry and stay are committing fraud and are subject to being deported and banned.

Anyone have a link showing this actually having occured and were deported or banned?

It is against the law to enter on a tourist visa with the intent to marry but how the heck does the government prove it unless they have substantial evidence like letters, email or video? :blink:

It is not against the law to enter on a tourist visa with the intent to marry. It's just illegal to then stay and adjust status after entering with that intent. The burden of proof on intent lies with the applicant, not USCIS.

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Like I said...Ive never seen anyone turned down.

How could it be a crime when regulations and the law specifically allow it...I dont know.

I dont recommend that anyone try it though....wasnt for me.

I finally got rid of the never ending money drain. I called the plumber, and got the problem fixed. I wish her the best.

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I imagine we'd see a LOT more of it if it wrasn't so difficult to get tourist visas from 3rd world countries.

Seems like it would be a much better way to bring someone in.

Beneficiary would get to see what it was like living with their mate in the US without marrying and Vice Versus!

More time for the petitioner to discover if they are just getting scammed for a GC or not also.

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This topic has been debated and litigated. This is straight out of the court.

Matter of Cavazos, 17 I. & N. Dec. 215 (BIA 1980)

According to Matter of Cavazos, in the absence of other adverse factors, an application for adjustment of status as an immediate relative should generally be granted in the exercise of discretion notwithstanding the fact that the applicant entered the United States as a nonimmigrant with a preconceived intention to remain.

Also, there have been cases that the USCIS did not use the BIA rule and denied the application on the bases of the preconceived intent. In that case, the application was prolong and much more expensive.

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