I am here in US why not marry?

[feejo 0]

I ear more and more people just here in vacation and pop got married and no worries, I think they just do the adjustment. I am from Canada in visit here, I might have to over stay 3 month to get married, have to do the preparation. What do you think?

[Laura+Tom 2]

Marrying is no problem, whether it's with a tourist visa or under the vwp, people do it all the time like in Vegas. It's the marrying with intent to stay and adjust status (without a valid visa) that is the problem as it is classed as fraud.

Edited January 15, 2009 by Laura+Tom

[pushbrk 12,892]

Marrying is no problem, whether it's with a tourist visa or under the vwp, people do it all the time like in Vegas. It's the marrying with intent to stay and adjust status (without a valid visa) that is the problem as it is classed as fraud.

Wow, it was Thursday before this week's need to correct this misconception came up. The problem isn't marrying with the intent to stay and adjust status. The probem is entering the USA with the intention to marry and adjust status. As long as the decision to marry and stay occurs after entry, (not before) there is no fraud. The fraudulent intent must be present at entry. Visas, visa waivers and Canadian visitor privileges are "used" at entry so it is intent at entry that matters. People's intentions often change later. That's not fraud.

[feejo 0]

Marrying is no problem, whether it's with a tourist visa or under the vwp, people do it all the time like in Vegas. It's the marrying with intent to stay and adjust status (without a valid visa) that is the problem as it is classed as fraud.

I cross with my passport, no need of visa for Canadians to visit.

[payxibka 10,045]

Marrying is no problem, whether it's with a tourist visa or under the vwp, people do it all the time like in Vegas. It's the marrying with intent to stay and adjust status (without a valid visa) that is the problem as it is classed as fraud.

Clarification: intent when you last entered the USA

[Laura+Tom 2]

Marrying is no problem, whether it's with a tourist visa or under the vwp, people do it all the time like in Vegas. It's the marrying with intent to stay and adjust status (without a valid visa) that is the problem as it is classed as fraud.

Wow, it was Thursday before this week's need to correct this misconception came up. The problem isn't marrying with the intent to stay and adjust status. The probem is entering the USA with the intention to marry and adjust status. As long as the decision to marry and stay occurs after entry, (not before) there is no fraud. The fraudulent intent must be present at entry. Visas, visa waivers and Canadian visitor privileges are "used" at entry so it is intent at entry that matters. People's intentions often change later. That's not fraud.

Obviously my post didn't come out the way I wanted it to. I was aiming to highlight that it was fraud as in if they were intending on entering to adjust status after being married. But no, obviously my little fingers were typing too fast for me.

[Bobby+Umit 161]

I ear more and more people just here in vacation and pop got married and no worries, I think they just do the adjustment. I am from Canada in visit here, I might have to over stay 3 month to get married, have to do the preparation. What do you think?

Well - like others said, if you "intend" to come to the US to marry/adjust status, as a visitor, that is visa fraud.

If your "intent" was to visit, then 3 months later you decide to marry, that is not fraud.

Sure, some people do this, if it works, great, you beat the system.

If you fail, you could be looking at a 3/5/10 year/lifetime ban from coming to the US ever again.

So as the old guy says, "choose wisely"

I will say, just coming here to the forum and asking this question seems you "intend" on coming here to marry and change status as a visitor...

Edited January 15, 2009 by Bobby_Umit

[pushbrk 12,892]

I will say, just coming here to the forum and asking this question seems you "intend" on coming here to marry and change status as a visitor...

Already here. Did you read the title of the thread?

[Bobby+Umit 161]

I will say, just coming here to the forum and asking this question seems you "intend" on coming here to marry and change status as a visitor...

Already here. Did you read the title of the thread?

Point taken

Edited January 15, 2009 by Bobby_Umit

[Graziumphry 0]

I guess that it would be very difficult to prove that you entered with no intent to marry.

I mean it must be extremely hard to go on holiday to the states for a bit, meet someone and decide to marry them while you are there

[Laura+Tom 2]

I guess that it would be very difficult to prove that you entered with no intent to marry.

I mean it must be extremely hard to go on holiday to the states for a bit, meet someone and decide to marry them while you are there

Considering you have to stay in the US whilst you adjust status.

Edited January 15, 2009 by Laura+Tom

[canadian_wife 1,822]

I think the OP already had an existing relationship upon entering the U.S.

What raises my eyebrows is your intent to stay for 3 months anyway and THEN try to convince a CO that you didn't really mean to get married while you are in the US and adjust status. To go for 3 months means you do not have that many ties to Canada anyway, so to me there is a greater burden on you to prove otherwise.

Good Luck

I guess that it would be very difficult to prove that you entered with no intent to marry.

I mean it must be extremely hard to go on holiday to the states for a bit, meet someone and decide to marry them while you are there

[DanielParul 50]

The reason you are putting this question up on this forum is exactly the reason the CO will question it too. You already know what you plan to do is not the right thing.

[Kez/JWolf 6]

Coming to the USA with no intent on remaining at the time you entered and then for whatever reason you change your mind and apply for AOS is not illegal and it is not jumping the line or cheeting in any way. Immigration law allows for people to change their mind after entry and apply for AOS. there are not doing anything wrong.

As long as you have evidence that you did not intend to remain when you entered there is no reason for you to leave and apply for a visa. That evidence could be a appartment rental aggrement or mortgage or letter from an employer or a letter from your family stating that they expected you to return on a set date, evidence of active bank accounts in your home country.

Most people who have done AOS from a Visitor/VWP/B1/B2 visa and never asked about their intent at entry as long as they can prove they have a valid marriage when they are interviewd by USCIS.

People should be very careful about telling other people to go home and do the right thing, as the right thing is for them to do is have a meeting with a Immigration Lawyer and discuss their case in detail.

[pushbrk 12,892]

The reason you are putting this question up on this forum is exactly the reason the CO will question it too. You already know what you plan to do is not the right thing.

Based on the opening post, they know nothing of the kind. If the decision to marry and stay occured after entering the US, the intending immigrant has the legal option to marry then stay and adjust status.