Membership of Chinese Communist Party

[xizi 0]

I actually don't have any moods to say anything. But I think my interview might be helpful to you. Now I only give you the whole process of my interview.

I had a VO with brown skin. He’s kind of skinny.

VO: You are getting married, congratulations!

ME: Thank you. But what did you say?

VO: You are getting married, congratulations!

ME: Thank you.

VO: You can speak English very well. How do you study?

ME: I talk to my fiancé every day. He helps me a lot. I heard you just now. You can also speak Chinese very well.

VO: Oh, I’m sure that I cannot speak Chinese as well as you speak English.

ME: Thank you.

VO: Where did you meet?

ME: Lijiang.

VO: Why is Lijiang?

ME: His friends XX and XX invited him to teach dance at the summer camp. At that time, I went to Lijiang to practice my English. We just met.

VO: When?

ME: Feb 15, 2007.

VO: How many times did he come to China in total?

ME: Twice.

VO: When did he leave last time?

ME: May 18, 2007, until his visa has been expired.

VO: When did you fall in love?

ME: When I left Lijiang, I felt very sad. I even cried. I knew that I would miss him. Because we missed each other so much that he came to Kunming to see me. I introduced him to my parents. From then on, we started a relationship.

VO: How do your parents see your relationship?

ME: Honestly, they disapproved this marriage because of our age differences. But when they first met, they really enjoyed each other’s company. After they convinced of our love, they approved our relationship.

VO: What does he do?

ME: He’s an artistic director and teacher.

VO: Artist?

ME: Dancer.

VO: What kind?

ME: He started out of Martial Arts because he’s born in Korea.

VO: ??

ME: Kongfu. When he went to US, he was trained in Ballet and Jazz. Later on, he combined Hip-Hop with them and created his own style.

VO: Do you dance with him?

ME: No.

(Embarrassed!!!)

VO: Why?

(He’s surprised！)

ME: Because I cannot dance. I don’t know how to dance. He asks me to stretch every day. It’s really hard to me. But when I was in his dance class in Lijiang, he taught me. I can only take some simple movements, like Cha Cha Cha.

VO: He’s a Korean. How did he go to US?

ME: After his grandma died, his father went to US first.

VO: When?

ME: I have a letter here.

VO: You can just tell me.

ME: XXXX, in Feb, probably. And he went there in Nov the same year.

VO: XXXX year, right?

ME: Right.

VO: How many children does he have?

ME: XX.

VO: Have you seen his children?

ME: Only through the camera.

VO: Do you have photos?

ME: Yes.

VO: How do you contact each other?

ME: We talk to each other every day. Most times…

(VO turned the microphone off and discussed with other VOs)

VO: Sorry, you just said “most times” …

ME: Most times through cell phone, sometimes through Skype so that we can see each other.

VO: Do you have any records?

ME: Yes. I also have photos of my fiancé and his family in US.

VO: Please put it here.

VO: Do you have a marriage plan?

ME: No. There’re so many things that I haven’t known until I get there in person. But we will have a concrete plan as soon as I get there.

VO: Do you like hot weather?

(Both of us laughed.)

ME: I know that the weather in Arizona, especially in Phoenix is really hot. But I think I will get through.

VO: You are approved, congratulation. Please take this to the post office. (Pointing at the Pink Clip) But we have to keep your passport for a while.

ME: Thank you so much. (I was so excited to hold the Pink Clip.)

VO: Congratulations. Bye.

ME: Thank you.

VO: Oh, please wait. (He suddenly saw “CCP” on my material.)I have to ask you a quick question. Are you currently the member of Chinese Communist Party?

ME: Yes.

(The whole world got dark. I felt down.)

VO: Sorry, could you please give that back to me?

(Pointing at the Pink Clip.)

I’m sorry I just said “You are approved”.

ME: That’s fine.

VO: When did you join the Party?

ME: Apr 2006 when I was in university.

VO: What do you have to do with the Party?

ME: Nothing.

VO: What’s your job?

ME: I don’t have a job. I’ve been focusing on this visa since I graduated from university.

VO: What’s your major?

ME: Safety Engineering.

VO: What?

(Maybe he heard “safety” which is sensitive. But it’s actually totally different from security on their mind.)

ME: Safety Engineering.

(VO turned the microphone off again and discussed with other VOs)

VO: What is Safety Engineering about?

ME: For example, before we build a house, we have to assess if the house will be safe enough.

VO: Is it the same as Civil Engineering.

ME: Yes. (Actually they’re different. But I was nervous and I felt like I didn’t have other choice.)

VO: Well, Miss XX, I cannot give you the visa today. We still need more time on your application. The sooner you fill out all the items here（Pointing at the Yellow Clip）, the sooner we will contact you. If you have more questions, please go to NO. 30 window.

ME: Is this all because of my membership?

VO: Well, we have more things to do.

ME: How long is it gonna take?

VO: I really don’t know. But we strongly suggest you not have any plans, not waste money until we make the final decision.

(I was hold the Blue, Yellow and White Clips and feeling down. I suddenly thought that I had prepared a statement for myself. Then I went back to the VO right away.)

(VO looked nice and he turned the microphone on.)

ME: I’m sorry to bother you again. I’ve already had those materials.

VO: Are you sure that you’ve already had all the items?

(Pointing at the Yellow Clip.)

ME: Yes.

VO: That’s great.

(He took the Yellow and White Clips back and returned the Blue one back to me.)

ME: Thank you.

I’ve cried for the past couple days. When Hodgie said ” I still love you, babe” I cried like crazy. Everybody felt sad and disappointed. What should I do?

[Anna and Jeff 3]

sorry to hear about that. Hope things turn out good for you.

[tallcoolone 102]

I’ve cried for the past couple days. When Hodgie said ” I still love you, babe” I cried like crazy. Everybody felt sad and disappointed. What should I do?

Post in the China Section, Not the PI section..............

[Rocky_nBullwinkle 6]

I've cried for the past couple days. When Hodgie said " I still love you, babe" I cried like crazy. Everybody felt sad and disappointed. What should I do?

Post in the China Section, Not the PI section..............

Maybe if your fiance moves here, to the Peoples Republic of California, you might be okay. There are lots of Communists living here on the Russian River. Perhaps Bohemian Grove.

Edited January 15, 2009 by Rocky_nBullwinkle

[PhiLandShiR 18]

I've cried for the past couple days. When Hodgie said " I still love you, babe" I cried like crazy. Everybody felt sad and disappointed. What should I do?

Post in the China Section, Not the PI section..............

Maybe if your fiance moves here, to the Peoples Republic of California, you might be okay. There are lots of Communists living here on the Russian River. Perhaps Bohemian Grove.

Oh now now.. that will not help the poor girl any.

Being member of that silly party does not matter here in the US any more. Has not mattered for almost 50 years.

GWN

[Ban Hammer 13,474]

I’ve cried for the past couple days. When Hodgie said ” I still love you, babe” I cried like crazy. Everybody felt sad and disappointed. What should I do?

Post in the China Section, Not the PI section..............

and moved to there - mbc from pi regional

[~bLairwhich~ 0]

Do they ask this particular question for VISA applicants in your country?

Or it was written somewhere in your VISA application? Where did they get the idea taht you're a member of that party?

Sad to hear this but certainly everything happens for a reason.

Do your best like calling some Congressman to help or anything, there's no shortcomings that can't be resolve.

Keep trusting the Lord, keep praying.

[Melrose Plant 1]

I remember the question appearing on one of the forms, "Are you or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party or other totalitarian regime." Or something to that effect. At the time, I remember not being 100% sure whether Mai was a Party member or not. Thankfully, she was not, although her parents are, and she was invited to join many times.

According to our lawyer (now remember this is for Vietnam), Party membership is not a bar to a pink slip, but it will probably delay it by 4 to 6 months. I think this is a vestige of a policy from a different time which remains with us. So the good news is: There is hope, but this probably won't be resolved next week either.

[BobandXiaomei 14]

I remember the question appearing on one of the forms, "Are you or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party or other totalitarian regime." Or something to that effect. At the time, I remember not being 100% sure whether Mai was a Party member or not. Thankfully, she was not, although her parents are, and she was invited to join many times.

According to our lawyer (now remember this is for Vietnam), Party membership is not a bar to a pink slip, but it will probably delay it by 4 to 6 months. I think this is a vestige of a policy from a different time which remains with us. So the good news is: There is hope, but this probably won't be resolved next week either.

CCP membership is a cause for delay. Usually the beneficary will resign from the CCP prior to the interview and have their letter of resignation (and any subsequent response) available.

[pushbrk 13,043]

I remember the question appearing on one of the forms, "Are you or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party or other totalitarian regime." Or something to that effect. At the time, I remember not being 100% sure whether Mai was a Party member or not. Thankfully, she was not, although her parents are, and she was invited to join many times.

According to our lawyer (now remember this is for Vietnam), Party membership is not a bar to a pink slip, but it will probably delay it by 4 to 6 months. I think this is a vestige of a policy from a different time which remains with us. So the good news is: There is hope, but this probably won't be resolved next week either.

CCP membership is a cause for delay. Usually the beneficary will resign from the CCP prior to the interview and have their letter of resignation (and any subsequent response) available.

Yes, the question is asked on the visa application, DS 230, I believe. In any event, the visa would be delayed while they decide whether the CCP membership circumstances create an ineligibility. The OP needs to formally resign from the party immediately and provide evidence thereof.

[Troy W 0]

HAving friends in china, my understanding the you have to be a member of CCP to go to school. I would thing the imigration officer would know that and ignore it.

[pushbrk 13,043]

HAving friends in china, my understanding the you have to be a member of CCP to go to school. I would thing the imigration officer would know that and ignore it.

Your understanding is incorrect. My father in-law was a General in the Army but none of his children were ever members of the party, including his son who is a professor at a provincial University. I assure you, Consular Officers in Guangzhou do not ignore CCP membership. They have strict and well understood procedures they follow in dealing with it.

[freetv 7]

HAving friends in china, my understanding the you have to be a member of CCP to go to school. I would thing the imigration officer would know that and ignore it.

Your understanding is incorrect. My father in-law was a General in the Army but none of his children were ever members of the party, including his son who is a professor at a provincial University. I assure you, Consular Officers in Guangzhou do not ignore CCP membership. They have strict and well understood procedures they follow in dealing with it.

I have a quick question about this. My fiancee was a junior member or however you say it in middle school (had to write a letter and file out some paper work to get in). But she has not and is not a member of the "real" or "major" party. She never went to college in China (all in Europe) and so she never held membership in the the cp. What should I put on the form??? She isn't really a member but what the heck is a junior member? I want to get this done now before the consul gets our paper work. Thanks

[pushbrk 13,043]

HAving friends in china, my understanding the you have to be a member of CCP to go to school. I would thing the imigration officer would know that and ignore it.

Your understanding is incorrect. My father in-law was a General in the Army but none of his children were ever members of the party, including his son who is a professor at a provincial University. I assure you, Consular Officers in Guangzhou do not ignore CCP membership. They have strict and well understood procedures they follow in dealing with it.

I have a quick question about this. My fiancee was a junior member or however you say it in middle school (had to write a letter and file out some paper work to get in). But she has not and is not a member of the "real" or "major" party. She never went to college in China (all in Europe) and so she never held membership in the the cp. What should I put on the form??? She isn't really a member but what the heck is a junior member? I want to get this done now before the consul gets our paper work. Thanks

I would just say no.

[Old Dominion 26]

HAving friends in china, my understanding the you have to be a member of CCP to go to school. I would thing the imigration officer would know that and ignore it.

Your understanding is incorrect. My father in-law was a General in the Army but none of his children were ever members of the party, including his son who is a professor at a provincial University. I assure you, Consular Officers in Guangzhou do not ignore CCP membership. They have strict and well understood procedures they follow in dealing with it.

I have a quick question about this. My fiancee was a junior member or however you say it in middle school (had to write a letter and file out some paper work to get in). But she has not and is not a member of the "real" or "major" party. She never went to college in China (all in Europe) and so she never held membership in the the cp. What should I put on the form??? She isn't really a member but what the heck is a junior member? I want to get this done now before the consul gets our paper work. Thanks

I would just say no.

And to be absolutely safe, she should write a letter to the CCP saying she has never been involved and is resigning & be prepared to present it at the interview. The US and China may have some tough days ahead in the near future.