275-Pound Woman Says Hospital Told Her to Use Zoo MRI

[andreea 0]

ofc mean comments aren't cute, but ppl r allowed to discuss.isn't only about that woman anymore. is about fat ppl in general. poor lady she has a tumor too, so her getting mad might have been due to her general status at that time too. having a tumor is a source for mental and emotional distress anyways. mix that with touching a sensitive issue as obesity, and u get a mad woman. is human, somehow.

as for fat ppl, there r special situation, ofc. but al in all, is usualy their fault. medical conditions exist, emotional conditions exist. but still, is not enough reason to just let yrself disapear behind tons of fat. many times the medical condition is used as an excuse, not fought. so they eat as they like, and at any comment they show u their medial records and u r supposed to feel bad and insensitive.

ppl with diabetus for example, have to keep diet all their life. and they do because otherwise endangers their life. so ppl with thyroid disorders should do the same, because is dangerous too. i've been practicing in endocrinology clinic and not all pacients were obese. in fact extreme cases where they get fat no matter how strict they diet r very seldom. with right treatment and a lifestyle according to their condition, they r fine.

and Kim and Marroco4life r not examples that yes, u can go fat eating like a normal person, but proof that if u care, u dont get fat, or u can lose weight. is true some r lucky and don't have to keep a diet to stay thin, but good thing is that u can control it. just takes some effort. when I see I am not fat and still starv myself when I feel I am overweight some and next to me a fat person eats 2 hamburgers, yeah, I think "fat cow"

enjoy life,

Andreea

[Uncle Wally 2]

seriously uncle wally makes a very good point

yes some people are overweight due to medical problems but the majority of people who are overweight or obese are just eating too much and not getting enough exercise

My point was, you don't know what people are going through and you shouldn't judge them until you have walked a mile in their shoes - in my opinion.

Wow. Tough sell.

Do I get to take a break at the half mile marker to sweat profusely, huff and puff, wolf down a dozen donuts, and gulp down 2 liters of Pepsi?

[Amby 490]

seriously uncle wally makes a very good point

yes some people are overweight due to medical problems but the majority of people who are overweight or obese are just eating too much and not getting enough exercise

My point was, you don't know what people are going through and you shouldn't judge them until you have walked a mile in their shoes - in my opinion.

Wow. Tough sell.

Do I get to take a break at the half mile marker to sweat profusely, huff and puff, wolf down a dozen donuts, and gulp down 2 liters of Pepsi?

Only if you can make it to the 1 mile marker after that

[Uncle Wally 2]

When someone smokes 2 packs of cigarettes a day for 40 years then gets sick from it, do people say "poor guy, it was genetic" and "he couldn't help it, there was nothing he could do"?

No, because there was something he could do. He could have stopped smoking cigarettes well before it got to the point of him being sick.

There is no difference here whatsoever. If you wanna loaf out on the couch and hammer down a bunch of cupcakes and bags of Cheetos all day, don't go crying to anyone when you're unhappy with the result.

[Jenn! 918]

There is no difference here whatsoever.

Ok, doctor.

Seriously though, are people saying that there aren't legitimate medical conditions that lead to obesity? I would agree that for most people, a change in lifestyle could eliminate their weight problems. It's not easy, but it's doable. But not for everyone.

Honestly, I find some of the contempt expressed really sad to read.

[Uncle Wally 2]

There is no difference here whatsoever.

Ok, doctor.

Seriously though, are people saying that there aren't legitimate medical conditions that lead to obesity? I would agree that for most people, a change in lifestyle could eliminate their weight problems. It's not easy, but it's doable. But not for everyone.

Honestly, I find some of the contempt expressed really sad to read.

Look.

One person might be genetically predisposed to be fat, another might not be. If they both sit around and eat like ####### and don't get any exercise, perhaps only the genetically predisposed guy will get fat.

But if they both eat healthy and not excessively, and get plenty of exercise, you won't be able to tell a difference because neither of them will be obese.

Don't believe me? Take some big fat guy and throw him into the US Marines. Don't give him the choice to quit, to eat what he wants, or sit around on the couch. You won't recognize him in 6 months, I promise.

Unless the guy doesn't have any legs, nobody is going to convince me that a fat guy has anyone to blame but himself for his condition.

[Jenn! 918]

There is no difference here whatsoever.

Ok, doctor.

Seriously though, are people saying that there aren't legitimate medical conditions that lead to obesity? I would agree that for most people, a change in lifestyle could eliminate their weight problems. It's not easy, but it's doable. But not for everyone.

Honestly, I find some of the contempt expressed really sad to read.

Look.

One person might be genetically predisposed to be fat, another might not be. If they both sit around and eat like ####### and don't get any exercise, perhaps only the genetically predisposed guy will get fat.

But if they both eat healthy and not excessively, and get plenty of exercise, you won't be able to tell a difference because neither of them will be obese.

Don't believe me? Take some big fat guy and throw him into the US Marines. Don't give him the choice to quit, to eat what he wants, or sit around on the couch. You won't recognize him in 6 months, I promise.

Unless the guy doesn't have any legs, nobody is going to convince me that a fat guy has anyone to blame but himself for his condition.

Ok, let's say you're right (I'm not convinced, but I'm not a doctor either). What is it about other people's lack of willpower that seems to make you (and others) so angry?

[Amby 490]

There is no difference here whatsoever.

Ok, doctor.

Seriously though, are people saying that there aren't legitimate medical conditions that lead to obesity? I would agree that for most people, a change in lifestyle could eliminate their weight problems. It's not easy, but it's doable. But not for everyone.

Honestly, I find some of the contempt expressed really sad to read.

Look.

One person might be genetically predisposed to be fat, another might not be. If they both sit around and eat like ####### and don't get any exercise, perhaps only the genetically predisposed guy will get fat.

But if they both eat healthy and not excessively, and get plenty of exercise, you won't be able to tell a difference because neither of them will be obese.

Don't believe me? Take some big fat guy and throw him into the US Marines. Don't give him the choice to quit, to eat what he wants, or sit around on the couch. You won't recognize him in 6 months, I promise.

Unless the guy doesn't have any legs, nobody is going to convince me that a fat guy has anyone to blame but himself for his condition.

Ok, let's say you're right (I'm not convinced, but I'm not a doctor either). What is it about other people's lack of willpower that seems to make you (and others) so angry?

I don't want to listen to someome b*tch about being fat if they're not doing anything to try and lose the weight.

[Jenn! 918]

There is no difference here whatsoever.

Ok, doctor.

Seriously though, are people saying that there aren't legitimate medical conditions that lead to obesity? I would agree that for most people, a change in lifestyle could eliminate their weight problems. It's not easy, but it's doable. But not for everyone.

Honestly, I find some of the contempt expressed really sad to read.

Look.

One person might be genetically predisposed to be fat, another might not be. If they both sit around and eat like ####### and don't get any exercise, perhaps only the genetically predisposed guy will get fat.

But if they both eat healthy and not excessively, and get plenty of exercise, you won't be able to tell a difference because neither of them will be obese.

Don't believe me? Take some big fat guy and throw him into the US Marines. Don't give him the choice to quit, to eat what he wants, or sit around on the couch. You won't recognize him in 6 months, I promise.

Unless the guy doesn't have any legs, nobody is going to convince me that a fat guy has anyone to blame but himself for his condition.

Ok, let's say you're right (I'm not convinced, but I'm not a doctor either). What is it about other people's lack of willpower that seems to make you (and others) so angry?

I don't want to listen to someome b*tch about being fat if they're not doing anything to try and lose the weight.

It sounds like the contempt is there regardless, no b!tching required. Fat people are ok as long as they don't complain about it?

[Uncle Wally 2]

And as for contempt, why should I have to pay extra on an airplane because my suitcase is too heavy, and also pay extra so the airline can absorb the cost of having to give some fat guy an extra seat for free?

Why should a fat person get a handicapped sticker for his car, and take up a parking space that some vet who got his leg blown off in 'Nam could have used?

They tax cigarettes to help pay for medical expenses incurred by smokers on the public dole. Why isn't there a donut tax? Why should I have to pay for some guy to have quadruple bypass surgery that he needs because he sat around on the couch eating Twinkies for 30 years? That's not my fault.

My groceries would cost less if the supermarket didn't pass the cost of the fleet of $2500 scooters they keep around for fat people on to me.

And most of all, I'm sick of hearing people piss and moan about disliking the condition they're in without doing anything to change it. If someone is fat and happy about it, great. If someone is fat and miserable about it, they should do something to change it, or they should shut the f*** up about it.

And save it moderators, these are my opinions and this is the "off topic" forum. I'm not singling any posters out, and I'm not voicing these opinions on the "CR1 visa" threads.

Edited January 15, 2009 by Uncle Wally

[Jenn! 918]

And as for contempt, why should I have to pay extra on an airplane because my suitcase is too heavy, and also pay extra so the airline can absorb the cost of having to give some fat guy an extra seat for free?

Why should a fat person get a handicapped sticker for his car, and take up a parking space that some vet who got his leg blown off in 'Nam could have used?

They tax cigarettes to help pay for medical expenses incurred by smokers on the public dole. Why isn't there a donut tax? Why should I have to pay for some guy to have quadruple bypass surgery that he needs because he sat around on the couch eating Twinkies for 30 years? That's not my fault.

My groceries would cost less if the supermarket didn't pass the cost of the fleet of $2500 scooters they keep around for fat people on to me.

And save it moderators, these are my opinions and this is the "off topic" forum. I'm not singling any posters out, and I'm not voicing these opinions on the "CR1 visa" threads.

You're allowed your opinions. Am I not allowed to question them because I am a moderator?

Anyway, it sounds to me like you're projecting your issues with government policy regarding obese people onto the obese people themselves.

[Amby 490]

There is no difference here whatsoever.

Ok, doctor.

Seriously though, are people saying that there aren't legitimate medical conditions that lead to obesity? I would agree that for most people, a change in lifestyle could eliminate their weight problems. It's not easy, but it's doable. But not for everyone.

Honestly, I find some of the contempt expressed really sad to read.

Look.

One person might be genetically predisposed to be fat, another might not be. If they both sit around and eat like ####### and don't get any exercise, perhaps only the genetically predisposed guy will get fat.

But if they both eat healthy and not excessively, and get plenty of exercise, you won't be able to tell a difference because neither of them will be obese.

Don't believe me? Take some big fat guy and throw him into the US Marines. Don't give him the choice to quit, to eat what he wants, or sit around on the couch. You won't recognize him in 6 months, I promise.

Unless the guy doesn't have any legs, nobody is going to convince me that a fat guy has anyone to blame but himself for his condition.

Ok, let's say you're right (I'm not convinced, but I'm not a doctor either). What is it about other people's lack of willpower that seems to make you (and others) so angry?

I don't want to listen to someome b*tch about being fat if they're not doing anything to try and lose the weight.

It sounds like the contempt is there regardless, no b!tching required. Fat people are ok as long as they don't complain about it?

Yup! If I don't have to listen to you b*tch about "being so fat" and then watch you eat a big azz cheeseburger and then sit and watch tv all day...I don't give a sh*t! Die young and full of cholesterol.

[Uncle Wally 2]

And as for contempt, why should I have to pay extra on an airplane because my suitcase is too heavy, and also pay extra so the airline can absorb the cost of having to give some fat guy an extra seat for free?

Why should a fat person get a handicapped sticker for his car, and take up a parking space that some vet who got his leg blown off in 'Nam could have used?

They tax cigarettes to help pay for medical expenses incurred by smokers on the public dole. Why isn't there a donut tax? Why should I have to pay for some guy to have quadruple bypass surgery that he needs because he sat around on the couch eating Twinkies for 30 years? That's not my fault.

My groceries would cost less if the supermarket didn't pass the cost of the fleet of $2500 scooters they keep around for fat people on to me.

And save it moderators, these are my opinions and this is the "off topic" forum. I'm not singling any posters out, and I'm not voicing these opinions on the "CR1 visa" threads.

You're allowed your opinions. Am I not allowed to question them because I am a moderator?

Anyway, it sounds to me like you're projecting your issues with government policy regarding obese people onto the obese people themselves.

Sorry, I didn't even realize that you're a moderator. I'm referring to the time when I made similar comments and a different moderator told be I'd be booted off the site if I said anything critical of fat people again.

Out of curiosity, how much sympathy do you have for someone who smokes for years and gets sick from it? For someone who gets a 'SLAYER' tattoo across their forehead then can't find a job? For someone who gets caught drunk driving and has to walk to work?

These comparisons may be somewhat obscure, but I don't think they're fallacious.

[Craneman 2]

5 foot....275

three times my weight for the same height... crazy

yes they should have MRI machines that fit everybody but maybe everybody should make an effort to maintain a somewhat normal weight...

Have you ever had one of these people sit in the seat of an airplane on a 10 hour flight and complain the whole way about the small seats, as their fat drapes over on you. Pathetic.

[morocco4ever 63]

And as for contempt, why should I have to pay extra on an airplane because my suitcase is too heavy, and also pay extra so the airline can absorb the cost of having to give some fat guy an extra seat for free?

Why should a fat person get a handicapped sticker for his car, and take up a parking space that some vet who got his leg blown off in 'Nam could have used?

They tax cigarettes to help pay for medical expenses incurred by smokers on the public dole. Why isn't there a donut tax? Why should I have to pay for some guy to have quadruple bypass surgery that he needs because he sat around on the couch eating Twinkies for 30 years? That's not my fault.

My groceries would cost less if the supermarket didn't pass the cost of the fleet of $2500 scooters they keep around for fat people on to me.

And save it moderators, these are my opinions and this is the "off topic" forum. I'm not singling any posters out, and I'm not voicing these opinions on the "CR1 visa" threads.

You're allowed your opinions. Am I not allowed to question them because I am a moderator?

Anyway, it sounds to me like you're projecting your issues with government policy regarding obese people onto the obese people themselves.

I guess large people, so as not to offend the general public, should shut themselves away and only come out when they can't be viewed.

I would love to ask everyone that is so offended by a large person to give this a try. As I stated, I can only eat about 800 to 1000 calories a day to maintain a healthy weight. I challenge any of you to eat that much each day for a week. If you can (honestly) tell me that you could do that for the rest of your life without fail and without complaint, I will certainly take my hat off to you. Takers anyone?