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Do you mean that you meet fot thr first time Dec 31 2008?

If so, that is going to be a bigger problem than any age difference.

You really should consider not filing for a few months so that there is time to build evidence of a bonafide relationship.

wrong!!

they have to have met within the last 2 years, and they have, they can file tomorrow, as long as they have been within the last 2 years before they file, it wont cause an issue.

Please please for future purposes, if you are going to give advice please make sure it is correct

There was a list of red flags awhile back. A brief relationship, followed by a very fast plunge into matrimony, was listed as one of them. Makes sense to me - not saying the OP's relationship is fraudulent, but rather that a quick wedding would have obvious appeal to a fraudulent couple. (Why bother taking time to ensure that you're really compatible, if there's no relationship to start with?)

You know, now that I read the OP's posting again, I'm noticing he says that the two of them "met for the first time on December 31." OP, could you clarify for us - do you mean that you had never known of each other before then? Or was this a face-to-face meeting that you'd been leading up to for awhile with emails, phone calls, and the like?

Agreed that age difference is not a big deal. My wife is 18 years younger than I am, but relationship credibility is important. Demonstrating that you have spent time together and know each other in detail is the key. Good luck in your journey...

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First, I have to agree with sinergy and say that if you are not clear on your answers PLEASE refrain from offering advice before you are sure the facts are correct. These are people's lives we're dealing with her and although this is a public forum and should not be used in place of legal advice, most of us also know that often we find more accurate advice here on VJ. Let's try to keep it that way. ;)

As far as the age difference and length of relationship.... much of this is very dependent on the Embassy you will be dealing with. In places like HCMC, Vietnam, China...etc this will most certainly send up red flags and the realationship will most likely be scrutinizied a great deal more than in other Countries.

However, in a place like Peru and from what we have seen here at VJ, this isn't likely to be a huge factor for you. As stated above, the requirement is that you have met in person within the last two years, not that you have sustained your relationship for that length of time. I remember an April filer who petitioned for his fiance just two weeks after they met.

Read through the GUIDES here on VJ. The K-1 GUIDE will walk you through the process. Read the FAQ and the Embassy info/reviews for Peru to find Embassy specific information. Educate yourself the best you can. Collect on going relationship evidence as you wait for the petition to be approved. It seems daunting but knowledge is power....and this is the best place to get it.

good luck.

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P.S: ooohhh I forget to tell, that we met for the first time on December 31.. and it's says that we should see us at least for 2 years..so that means that we can not apply for that kind of visa??[/font][/font

The requirement is that you have met (In Person) within the past two years. There is no requirement to have been together for any length of time.

I agree, the US government can't decide when you should get married! There is no problem at all!

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However, in a place like Peru and from what we have seen here at VJ, this isn't likely to be a huge factor for you. As stated above, the requirement is that you have met in person within the last two years, not that you have sustained your relationship for that length of time. I remember an April filer who petitioned for his fiance just two weeks after they met.

They had a K-1 petition ready to send, two weeks after they discovered each other's existence? They must have started filling out the paperwork on their second or third date! Did they get a visa?

Again, I think the big question is what the OP meant to say by "we met for the first time on December 31st." If he's just talking about the first face-to-face meeting, then what he's suggesting isn't even all that unusual for VJ. If he's talking about finding each other, talking, dating, courtship, marriage proposal, AND K-1 paperwork all crammed into two weeks, I think it's fair to say that this would raise some eyebrows. It's not necessarily a deal-breaker, but to say that the consulate wouldn't even notice is probably a tad optimistic.

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I'm skeptical of anyones advice here regarding issues that are basically judgment calls by the CO. There are some answers that are clean cut but in cases like this nobody can say definatively what a CO will do.

The OP should read the various posts, take a look at the the embassy reviews and decide for themselves what the best course of action in their partricular circumstance should be. Dont over rely on anyones advice here because no one here is going to make the decision in the end it will be the CO in your particular country. In most cases things go slowly but people get approved with no problems, but there are more than enough examples here to prove that things dont always go well for everyone.

Also it would not hurt to be more specific about what was meant by the first meeting...

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Welcome to Visa Journey, I am sure you will find a lot of good answers to your questions and here is my 2 cents worth. Isa and I met on the internet and chatted for a couple of months before we officially met in Peru, at that time we decided to get married and went the K-1 route because I had heard that the process was faster. She is 13 years younger than me and the age difference was never an issue at the embassy. As far as meeting, the guidelines state that you must have met within the last 2 years, you have so I wouldn't worry about that issue or even the age issue. Make sure that you show an on going relationship and have your fiance save anything like hotel receipts, plane boarding passes, pictures with the date stamped on them, make copies of passport stamps, etc.. After our first in person meeting I sent the K-1 packet in and went down another 2 times before the interview and the official at the interview stated that that was a lot of visits and that most people only visit once or twice. I did go down for the interview which is not necessary but it did not hurt and because I wanted to be with Isa and Isabella as they came here to the U.S.. If your finace goes down in June to see you and documents the visit then you should have no problem with the interview in Lima. Good luck and again welcome to the Visa Journey family.

Brian & Isa

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They had a K-1 petition ready to send, two weeks after they discovered each other's existence? They must have started filling out the paperwork on their second or third date! Did they get a visa?

Yes, they were '08 april VSC filers with us. He met her in the Ukraine in March 08 and filed in April. He's also had previous K-1's. They were approved in August and had the interview in November. They are now married. They are not the only ones to have a short courtship...far from it.

To suggest they wait to file the I-129f because they just met in person a couple of weeks ago makes no sense as it's not up to the USCIS to decide whether you are in love 'enough' or not. The law states that you must have met in person within the last two years and that you must both be free to marry and that the usc must be allowed to petition for an alien fiance. That is it.

The Embassy is a different story but by the time the couple gets there (6-12+ months later) it's quite likely they will have enough evidence to substantiate a bona-fide relationship...and because they are not dealing with a 'difficult' post, it's likely their short courtship is not to be questioned at all. Again...based on all the people we've seen go through Peru here...not just blowing smoke.

It's true that no matter what advice you get here (or anywhere for that matter) it is still ultimately up to you to educate yourself but it's also true that some of us have actually been here for quite some time and do know what we're talking about. ;)

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It is acceptable for the man to be much older than the woman to the point that he could be her grandfather.

However if the woman is at all older than the man you are much more apt to have issues. All is not fair.

I (female-USC) is 13 years older than my husband. Never came up at the interview and I filed a few months after meeting him (never came up either), but that doesn't mean they can't ask about it at the interview.

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Do you mean that you meet fot thr first time Dec 31 2008?

If so, that is going to be a bigger problem than any age difference.

You really should consider not filing for a few months so that there is time to build evidence of a bonafide relationship.

wrong!!

they have to have met within the last 2 years, and they have, they can file tomorrow, as long as they have been within the last 2 years before they file, it wont cause an issue.

Please please for future purposes, if you are going to give advice please make sure it is correct

There was a list of red flags awhile back. A brief relationship, followed by a very fast plunge into matrimony, was listed as one of them. Makes sense to me - not saying the OP's relationship is fraudulent, but rather that a quick wedding would have obvious appeal to a fraudulent couple. (Why bother taking time to ensure that you're really compatible, if there's no relationship to start with?)

You know, now that I read the OP's posting again, I'm noticing he says that the two of them "met for the first time on December 31." OP, could you clarify for us - do you mean that you had never known of each other before then? Or was this a face-to-face meeting that you'd been leading up to for awhile with emails, phone calls, and the like?

Yes...sorry! I didnt explain myself (and Im a woman ;) ...

We met for the first time in person on 31/12/2008...but we were writing, calling, each other since September 08..so we know about each other..a lot. Is not a game for us..is not faudulent as you say...is just that we dont have a looooong time relationship.

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Hi LACHIFA, well, the first thing you need to do is have your boyfriend inform himself of the neccesary steps to apply for a K 1 visa, what's importanty is that you already met in person and it really does not matter how long you have been in this relationship, in order to prove that you have met each other in person, you need pictures, his airplane ticket (when he visited you ), and the rest of documents that are required, now after filing you will need to keep records of phone calls, e-mails, and if it is possible your boyfriend should go visit u one more time, all of this evidence will help you at the time of your interview....Age is not a problem at all, but remember you need to have enough evidence that your relationship is a serious one, you do not need to prove toanyone here, but the american embassy at the time of your interview...

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Im with Brian and Isa,

Save every thing if you went to a restaurant save the recipt air line tickets boarding passes phone bills emails. Save every thing. If you send gifts save the postal recipts. Take lots of pictures together I hope you did that.

I think that if you are in the relationship you belive you are then It would be safer ( more sure) if you were married. The age issue doesnt seem to be the problem. My wife and I are 15 years apart.What you really need to do is show that you have a on going relationship.

If you do decide to get marreid there are a few of us from peru that can help with that process although a few hoops to jump through and takes a little time its not all that complicated. I got marreid in Arequipa Peru last september. THe hardest part is making sure you do all the things that are required

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Welcome to Visa Journey, I am sure you will find a lot of good answers to your questions and here is my 2 cents worth. Isa and I met on the internet and chatted for a couple of months before we officially met in Peru, at that time we decided to get married and went the K-1 route because I had heard that the process was faster. She is 13 years younger than me and the age difference was never an issue at the embassy. As far as meeting, the guidelines state that you must have met within the last 2 years, you have so I wouldn't worry about that issue or even the age issue. Make sure that you show an on going relationship and have your fiance save anything like hotel receipts, plane boarding passes, pictures with the date stamped on them, make copies of passport stamps, etc.. After our first in person meeting I sent the K-1 packet in and went down another 2 times before the interview and the official at the interview stated that that was a lot of visits and that most people only visit once or twice. I did go down for the interview which is not necessary but it did not hurt and because I wanted to be with Isa and Isabella as they came here to the U.S.. If your finace goes down in June to see you and documents the visit then you should have no problem with the interview in Lima. Good luck and again welcome to the Visa Journey family.

Brian & Isa

Thank you so much for your advice!! I will talk later to my love and I will tell him this. :)

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Im with Brian and Isa,

Save every thing if you went to a restaurant save the recipt air line tickets boarding passes phone bills emails. Save every thing. If you send gifts save the postal recipts. Take lots of pictures together I hope you did that.

I think that if you are in the relationship you belive you are then It would be safer ( more sure) if you were married. The age issue doesnt seem to be the problem. My wife and I are 15 years apart.What you really need to do is show that you have a on going relationship.

If you do decide to get marreid there are a few of us from peru that can help with that process although a few hoops to jump through and takes a little time its not all that complicated. I got marreid in Arequipa Peru last september. THe hardest part is making sure you do all the things that are required

Thank you so much for your time to answer me.

We have things like air tickets, photos,..the things is that he didnt come to Peru. We decide to have new years together in Rep. Dominicana..so we went there) I really hope that doesnt matter at all!

We are planning (if K1 visa is too difficult) to get married in June....but we dont know if applying for K3 visa will take us longer! That's why we are worried because we just want to be together.

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hello,

age difference should not matter as long as you show proof that you are in a relationship (phone records, emails, photos, etc).

you have to have met in person in the last 2years not be together 2years.

good luck

Hi!

I'm new here.....but i think that this site will help me a lot with the documents my boyfriend and I need for the K-1 Visa.

He is a U.S. citizen and I'm from Peru. We have a difference in our ages...about 19 years. We just want to be together, that's all that really matter to us..but I'd read in some web pages, that a lot of times, Embassy denies the K-1 visa, because of the age difference..and I'm crazy about that because that really shouldn't matter.

We are trying to know whta is better to us.... if the K-1 visa or the K-3...

We want to make this work, but we need some good advice from you guys.

I hope you can help us.

P.S: ooohhh I forget to tell, that we met for the first time on December 31.. and it's says that we should see us at least for 2 years..so that means that we can not apply for that kind of visa??

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Hi!

I'm new here.....but i think that this site will help me a lot with the documents my boyfriend and I need for the K-1 Visa.

He is a U.S. citizen and I'm from Peru. We have a difference in our ages...about 19 years. We just want to be together, that's all that really matter to us..but I'd read in some web pages, that a lot of times, Embassy denies the K-1 visa, because of the age difference..and I'm crazy about that because that really shouldn't matter.

We are trying to know whta is better to us.... if the K-1 visa or the K-3...

We want to make this work, but we need some good advice from you guys.

I hope you can help us.

P.S: ooohhh I forget to tell, that we met for the first time on December 31.. and it's says that we should see us at least for 2 years..so that means that we can not apply for that kind of visa??

that's one of my concerns too,my fiance and i are 38 years apart...but weve known each other for a year now,met twice and hes actually here now for 5 mos and living together.i think u need more time to know each other better before filing for a fiance visa,a k-3 wouldnt help get u there quickly coz they'd ask you for more proofs of boneffied marriage(at least thats what i knew from others who filed for k3) ..dont rush! :thumbs: good luck!

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