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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Colombia
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I think its better to put the information.I just add my child on the form since I'll be submitting his BC as additional evidence.I just put USC under immigration status.The instructions did not say NOT to include USC child anyway, so its not really clear but I don't want to upset USCIS official who will be checking my papers because the form asks clearly about listing all the children and it doesn't make sense that I will submit my child's BC and don't put his name on the form. :unsure:

Ha, clicked on the wrong topic and thought I was in the USC where you do list all of your kids, step, and otherwise, but not in the I-751, only the kids that can tailgate on the parent that also have a conditional card that is about to expire, and 80 bucks extra for each kid listed. Viewed that as being a bargain by the USCIS.

To include that kid, they must have received their conditional card within 90 days of the alien parent or you will have to file a separate I-751, pay the full fee.

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there are a lot of people on here that have included their USC kids on the form and have had no problems..

I think in Haole's case either something was filled out wrong or the adjudicator made a mistake...

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there are a lot of people on here that have included their USC kids on the form and have had no problems..

I think in Haole's case either something was filled out wrong or the adjudicator made a mistake...

Agree. While I understand that Haole had a problem, the form clearly says to include ALL your children. We followed the instructions, which meant we included our USC child. It did not present a problem.

While it certainly does say to include conditional PR children if you want them to be included in the removal of conditions, that sentence doesn't indicate that you should omit any other children.

Note that the words "you" and "your" in the I-751 refer specifically to the alien removing conditions, not to the USC spouse. So in the case of children from prior marriages, I would not list any children of the USC spouse unless those are also children of the alien removing conditions.

04 Apr, 2004: Got married

05 Apr, 2004: I-130 Sent to CSC

13 Apr, 2004: I-130 NOA 1

19 Apr, 2004: I-129F Sent to MSC

29 Apr, 2004: I-129F NOA 1

13 Aug, 2004: I-130 Approved by CSC

28 Dec, 2004: I-130 Case Complete at NVC

18 Jan, 2005: Got the visa approved in Caracas

22 Jan, 2005: Flew home together! CCS->MIA->SFO

25 May, 2005: I-129F finally approved! We won't pursue it.

8 June, 2006: Our baby girl is born!

24 Oct, 2006: Window for filing I-751 opens

25 Oct, 2006: I-751 mailed to CSC

18 Nov, 2006: I-751 NOA1 received from CSC

30 Nov, 2006: I-751 Biometrics taken

05 Apr, 2007: I-751 approved, card production ordered

23 Jan, 2008: N-400 sent to CSC via certified mail

19 Feb, 2008: N-400 Biometrics taken

27 Mar, 2008: Naturalization interview notice received (NOA2 for N-400)

30 May, 2008: Naturalization interview, passed the test!

17 June, 2008: Naturalization oath notice mailed

15 July, 2008: Naturalization oath ceremony!

16 July, 2008: Registered to vote and applied for US passport

26 July, 2008: US Passport arrived.

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I am filling out the new i-751 and it states on there to include children who you want to remove conditions on. I am confused too, but I believe that since they don´t have a place to check that they are a US citizen and they only provide a place for the A#, that they mean only to add children if you want to do the ROC for them too.

SO, I will file that way and add they BC´s as evidance. I might add in cover letter that they were born here and do not need ROC.

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Reading this has me a little worried! The form said to include all your children - so my husband included his children from his previous marriage in Argentina. Those children are adult, have never visited to the US - in fact they don't even have passports! On the form we wrote "none" for A#, and "not in US" for the part which asked for their US address. We completed the old version of the I-751.

Our thinking was that he included these children on the G-325A form for the I-130 and/or I-485 for his AOS (even though they were not emigrating), so it would have looked strange if he didn't include them on the I-751....

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I think its better to put the information.I just add my child on the form since I'll be submitting his BC as additional evidence.I just put USC under immigration status.The instructions did not say NOT to include USC child anyway, so its not really clear but I don't want to upset USCIS official who will be checking my papers because the form asks clearly about listing all the children and it doesn't make sense that I will submit my child's BC and don't put his name on the form. unsure.gif

Sorry guys I have not logged in for sometime. Here is my detailed response.

You only fill in the children whose condition is also being removed in this application along with the immigrant parent. You can include the child only if the child entered within 90 days of the immigrant parents' entry into US.

You can not include a child that entered 90 days after the immigrant parent entered into US. In that case a separate I-751 needs to be filed for that child with I-751 fee along with child's biometric fee of 80.

If you include a child other than the one that needs the condition to be lifted, then several things can happen depending on the person reviewing your case. He could understand that you mentioned the children by mistake and just ignore that information and process your application or send an RFE for payment of additional fee of 80 per each child included for biometrics.

The instructions are very clear, please read those again.

Yes you will use the birth certificate of a child born in this marriage as evidence but that child, if born in US, should not be entered.

USA

01/08/13 - Approved and GC is order for production on 1/8/14

09/12/13 - Case transferred to CSC. NOA2 received on 09/18/13

08/30/13 - Biometrics Done - No walk ins allowed at this LSC (received on 8/16/13).

08/05/13 - NOA1 (received on 08/10/13)

08/01/13 - Mailed I-751 (received on 8/2/13 - check cashed on 8/5/13)

12/28/11 - Received SSN (applied on 12/20/11, as we didn't get based on DS-230 options)
11/28/11 - Received Green Card (Expires on 10/30/13) - Welcome Letter on 11/17/11
10/30/11 - POE - Houston, TX

Chennai Consulate (40 days)
10/28/11 - Received Visa papers and Passport at VFS
10/25/11 - Interview Cleared Successfully (Spouse was not allowed in)

NVC: (90 days from NOA2 to Consulate)
08/31/11 - Case Completed (Interview 10/25/11) - Received at Chennai on 09/19/11
07/22/11 - NVC Case Number

USCIS: (92 days)

6/21/11 - NOA2 (NOA1 on 3/25/11) - took a month to get to NVC
3/21/11 - I-130 sent to USCIS Lockbox, Chicago.

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Sorry guys I have not logged in for sometime. Here is my detailed response.

You only fill in the children whose condition is also being removed in this application along with the immigrant parent. You can include the child only if the child entered within 90 days of the immigrant parents' entry into US.

You can not include a child that entered 90 days after the immigrant parent entered into US. In that case a separate I-751 needs to be filed for that child with I-751 fee along with child's biometric fee of 80.

If you include a child other than the one that needs the condition to be lifted, then several things can happen depending on the person reviewing your case. He could understand that you mentioned the children by mistake and just ignore that information and process your application or send an RFE for payment of additional fee of 80 per each child included for biometrics.

The instructions are very clear, please read those again.

Yes you will use the birth certificate of a child born in this marriage as evidence but that child, if born in US, should not be entered.

I am producing here below the content from I-751 from latest instruction. Please note that the fee has been increased. Also you will notice that the part 5 is for conditional resident children, who needs additional biometric fee of 85 per conditional resident child.

Please also note that the new form must be used by those that are submitting their application starting from June 16, 2013 (Old form will be accepted only till 6/15/2013 only).

Filing Fee : $505. (Add $85 biometric fee for a total of $590, where applicable. See the form instructions for payment details.) Special Instructions :

Note on Filing Fee: Please include the base petition fee plus $85 biometric services fee for all conditional resident applicants. Each conditional resident child listed under Part 5 of this form who is a dependent seeking to remove their conditional status, is required to submit an additional biometric services fee of $85, regardless of age.

Do not send Change of Address Requests to the USCIS Lockbox facilities.

This page can be found at http://www.uscis.gov/i-751

USA

01/08/13 - Approved and GC is order for production on 1/8/14

09/12/13 - Case transferred to CSC. NOA2 received on 09/18/13

08/30/13 - Biometrics Done - No walk ins allowed at this LSC (received on 8/16/13).

08/05/13 - NOA1 (received on 08/10/13)

08/01/13 - Mailed I-751 (received on 8/2/13 - check cashed on 8/5/13)

12/28/11 - Received SSN (applied on 12/20/11, as we didn't get based on DS-230 options)
11/28/11 - Received Green Card (Expires on 10/30/13) - Welcome Letter on 11/17/11
10/30/11 - POE - Houston, TX

Chennai Consulate (40 days)
10/28/11 - Received Visa papers and Passport at VFS
10/25/11 - Interview Cleared Successfully (Spouse was not allowed in)

NVC: (90 days from NOA2 to Consulate)
08/31/11 - Case Completed (Interview 10/25/11) - Received at Chennai on 09/19/11
07/22/11 - NVC Case Number

USCIS: (92 days)

6/21/11 - NOA2 (NOA1 on 3/25/11) - took a month to get to NVC
3/21/11 - I-130 sent to USCIS Lockbox, Chicago.

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Reading this has me a little worried! The form said to include all your children - so my husband included his children from his previous marriage in Argentina. Those children are adult, have never visited to the US - in fact they don't even have passports! On the form we wrote "none" for A#, and "not in US" for the part which asked for their US address. We completed the old version of the I-751.

Our thinking was that he included these children on the G-325A form for the I-130 and/or I-485 for his AOS (even though they were not emigrating), so it would have looked strange if he didn't include them on the I-751....

Do not be worried. It asked for ALL children and that is what you listed. We used the old form and listed my USC children. I stated they were US citizens and I think it was clear they were not needing immigration services. They are my husband's step children and we had some evidence that included them, so we listed them. I am not worried at all about there being any mix up with the adjudicator being confused. I think the new form makes it all a little more clear for people and all the children should be listed on the new form too.

Link to K-1 instructions for Ciudad Juarez, Mexico > https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/K1/CDJ_Ciudad-Juarez-2-22-2021.pdf

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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The answers above say ALL children.

Old thread is now closed to further comment.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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