You're not going to believe this (No, it's not an approval)

[notime4haterz 0]

whatever you choose to do with your life, wait it out or relocate, good luck.

Thank you.

[natty bumppo 297]

As I said before...I keep thinking, thinking, thinking...all I can conclude is that it's out of my hands. I can't do anything about it. It seems that no one has power over them either. So we're all at their mercy!

and that's a bad thing?

Imagine:

- if lots of people had "power over them". What gives those who have "power" more priority over those who do not have a friend or "power"?

- can you imagine being a person without "power" always being moved to the bottom of the pile while others with "power" get placed on top. It would suk to be you ... the person without "power" being forced to live apart from your loved one while people with "power" keep bumping you down.

[Sinergy 3]

As I said before...I keep thinking, thinking, thinking...all I can conclude is that it's out of my hands. I can't do anything about it. It seems that no one has power over them either. So we're all at their mercy!

and that's a bad thing?

Imagine:

- if lots of people had "power over them". What gives those who have "power" more priority over those who do not have a friend or "power"?

- can you imagine being a person without "power" always being moved to the bottom of the pile while others with "power" get placed on top. It would suk to be you ... the person without "power" being forced to live apart from your loved one while people with "power" keep bumping you down.

Your wisdom makes me proud

[notime4haterz 0]

As I said before...I keep thinking, thinking, thinking...all I can conclude is that it's out of my hands. I can't do anything about it. It seems that no one has power over them either. So we're all at their mercy!

and that's a bad thing?

Imagine:

- if lots of people had "power over them". What gives those who have "power" more priority over those who do not have a friend or "power"?

- can you imagine being a person without "power" always being moved to the bottom of the pile while others with "power" get placed on top. It would suk to be you ... the person without "power" being forced to live apart from your loved one while people with "power" keep bumping you down.

I didn't mean people having power over them. I meant having more regulation by higher government. At least they can go in order, first come first serve. They can also have the different service centers all get equal work loads so that one center doesn't take 4 times the amount of days to process an application. Also, to make them update their timelines more regularly and accurately. Finally, to allow CSR real information so that when we call them, they can give us a realistic answer, and not read the little memo that we see every single day on the internet.

[Bern. 3]

I know it's tough, and I know you miss him, but we're all in this boat together. Let's try not to sink!

I hope you get to see your husband soon. TAKE CARE.

[natty bumppo 297]

your right..the scary part is it is out of our hands.

And i honestly feel sorry for the uscis CSR....they cant do ANYTHING. they can give information on your status and give you phone numbers. thats not much. they get angry calls ALL the time, all day long, and cant do anything. they can note your acct that you called and thats it. the adjudicator may see youve called, but that wont budge them.

I called USCIS once to correct incorrect info and another time cause I was bored and wanted to find out the status (received approval a week later while visiting an oil-rig on the North Sea). During each call the CSR was friendly and informative in a Microsoft kind of way (they gave a factual answer to my question that told me absolutely nothing).

I didn't mean people having power over them. I meant having more regulation by higher government. At least they can go in order, first come first serve. They can also have the different service centers all get equal work loads so that one center doesn't take 4 times the amount of days to process an application. Also, to make them update their timelines more regularly and accurately. Finally, to allow CSR real information so that when we call them, they can give us a realistic answer, and not read the little memo that we see every single day on the internet.

It's an agency process that moves at a pace. Some of that pace is determined by the volume of petitions received.

More government intervention will speed things up? Have you ever seen more government red-tape to improve a process?

Your FIFO request is broken before it starts. Imagine all the people who have RFE's being sent back to the beginning (after all they fell out of the process path). Note: There was a good write-up on this "FIFO" process in a thread a few weeks ago you might want to dig it up.

To update the website on a more timely fashion and provide more detailed information at their fingertips? wow ... a perfect world.

If you're checking the website everyday to read the memo ... then calling the CSR's to hear the same memo repeated to you on the phone ... umm ...do you have a hobby?

In the grand scheme of things ... and if you've learned the process with required steps to take to get through ... what difference does a few days make versus sending your 'choo choo' around the bend by checking all the time? I received my NOA2 one week before the website was updated. All my documentation was ready for the next step. All I needed to do was mail it out.

[notime4haterz 0]

It's an agency process that moves at a pace. Some of that pace is determined by the volume of petitions received.

More government intervention will speed things up? Have you ever seen more government red-tape to improve a process? Not talking about red tape. I'm talking about a better process. One that requires answering to someone else when you don't perform to standard.

Your FIFO request is broken before it starts. Imagine all the people who have RFE's being sent back to the beginning (after all they fell out of the process path). Note: There was a good write-up on this "FIFO" process in a thread a few weeks ago you might want to dig it up. Why would you think I believe RFE's should be sent back to the beginning of the wait times? That goes against the whole first come first serve point.

To update the website on a more timely fashion and provide more detailed information at their fingertips? wow ... a perfect world. No, we have the technological capabilities to have things showing in real time. Why be happy with posts that are old and inaccurate?

If you're checking the website everyday to read the memo ... then calling the CSR's to hear the same memo repeated to you on the phone ... umm ...do you have a hobby? Are you just trying to be nasty? This is the first day I've made any formal requests for help with my application. The only other time I called is when some people posted about not getting emails, but being told they were approved on the phone. Since you don't regularly post in this section, you don't know my story, and you wouldn't know that. So why are you assuming things?

In the grand scheme of things ... and if you've learned the process with required steps to take to get through ... what difference does a few days make versus sending your 'choo choo' around the bend by checking all the time? I received my NOA2 one week before the website was updated. All my documentation was ready for the next step. All I needed to do was mail it out.

[notime4haterz 0]

The whole point of this thread was to tell everyone of the INSANE request the lady made...for another person's receipt. If my complaining about being apart from my husband turns some people off, I'm really sorry. I know there are people who had it a million times worse. To me it doesn't matter what a person's circumstances are. I still wish for everyone to be able to be with their spouse as soon as possible, without delay. I would also never condemn someone for complaining and feeling bad about being apart from their spouse - even if they were only apart for 2 days. When you love someone, every day is like an eternity!

[natty bumppo 297]

I'm not being nasty. Just stating some obvious items.

You stated:

"I didn't mean people having power over them. I meant having more regulation by higher government."

More regulation means more "red tape" and/or hurtles to climb through. A more streamlined and accountable system appears to be what you meant.

Technology is available yes. At what cost? Are you ready to share the burden for this with other people who are petitioning the gov't to permit our spouses to be here? I can't imagine overhauling an entire system is cheap and I would not expect the average taxpayer to be willing to shoulder an additional tax burden to fulfill our desires to bring our spouses here (as if there aren't enough taxes already). The current system works ... albeit slow. The wait time is a part of life and we all learn to deal. It does give each of us time to prepare for the pending huge adjustment of integrating two cultures, that have suddenly been thrust together full time, when spouses are finally together to set-up "their" house (not meaning ... my spouse needs to adjust to "my" house). It takes work and time to prepare. Use it wisely and the adjustment gets easier.

Posts that are old and inaccurate? I stated before, my NOA2 one week before the website was updated ... big deal ... there are worse tragedies in life. I stopped worrying myself to death long before that time and accepted that a few days of delay wasn't worth whining or driving myself crazy in anticipation (sorta like watching a pot to help make the water boil). During my wait time, I did check the NOA2 times for others on VJ that were filed at the same time I did. I was one of the last of my group. Who cares. You may be in the process like I was, and assigned to an overworked/ slow/ person overwhelmed with RFE responses/ someone who took a vacation/ or maybe they needed more time simply to review documents for whatever reason (this beats an RFE any day)

Note: Ever notice how frequently your local courthouse or gov't updates public records? The USCIS is doing a good job in comparison to these agencies.

From what I understand there already is a modified FIFO process in place. There are RFE's, more petitions, work loads, budget constraints (read the news lately?) that are all impacting the process. Just because someone else had a clean and fast time through the process doesn't mean they "jumped" ahead. There are other factors that may be impacting your file based on your documentation and this needs to be resolved before you move to the next level within the process.

In a true FIFO system ... if something gets rejected (RFE) it should restart back at the beginning. Why should it be allowed to jump back into line ahead of others that weren't rejected? Example: Ever wonder what happens if you leave the queue for a ride at Disney World to get something to drink? Think the people will be real willing to let you jump back into your original place in this FIFO system?

btw: just because someone doesn't post, doesn't mean the person doesn't read (you know ... two ears/eyes and one mouth for a reason )

[rebeccajo 14]

The wait time is a part of life and we all learn to deal. It does give each of us time to prepare for the pending huge adjustment of integrating two cultures, that have suddenly been thrust together full time, when spouses are finally together to set-up "their" house (not meaning ... my spouse needs to adjust to "my" house). It takes work and time to prepare. Use it wisely and the adjustment gets easier.

Best post of the day.

And it's early!! We could have a really good day around VJ if everybody gets this smart!

[Sinergy 3]

The wait time is a part of life and we all learn to deal. It does give each of us time to prepare for the pending huge adjustment of integrating two cultures, that have suddenly been thrust together full time, when spouses are finally together to set-up "their" house (not meaning ... my spouse needs to adjust to "my" house). It takes work and time to prepare. Use it wisely and the adjustment gets easier.

Best post of the day.

And it's early!! We could have a really good day around VJ if everybody gets this smart!

oh becca the dreams

[notime4haterz 0]

Update: Mom called friend who called a friend, who called mom, who called me, emails back and forth...

In a nutshell: According to friend, the first lady I spoke to was "Useless" and the whole get me a receipt from someone who filed after you was just a way to say something that was impossible to do so that we could leave her alone. Oh, and it wasn't just that she could help if we sent her the receipt. She told my mom that she would get my petition approved immediately if I could show her the receipt. From that answer, I know this lady is full of it. She has no power to approve anything!!! Even the congressman himself can't approve a petition LOL Honestly, I don't think she even checked anything. I think she made the whole story up. I don't think she even checked if the application was adjudicated, and just said that it wasn't so we would not question the wait anymore. On my next trip to see my family, I'm going to speak to the wife and tell her my tale. She was the one that recommended I talk to this specific lady.

This new lady should be getting back to me ????? Who knows. If I get an answer in 5 mins, should I believe it? LOOOL

[Jasman0717 9]

It doesn't sound like the staff in that office are prepared for these kinds of issues. Have you tried one of your senators? I know the California senators, so would assume all do, have staff that deal specifically with immigration issues.

[ArubaDolphin 0]

Ok, and im not being "mean" but have you not concidered the fact that VJ ppl are NOT the only ones who have filed k3's in the USA. Yours is just one in tens of thousands of petitions, just bc some VJ ppl are being approved before you, doesnt mean in a sence than your next, you could have a few thousand ahead of you.

Theres no real reason to be upset with your congressman, if your within the timeline, there isnt really much they can do anyway and looking at your timeline your not at 6 months, so your congressman isnt going to jump on it full force as of yet. Its natural to be anxious and annoyed by this process, however your turn will come, your approval will come, it just takes time. You get to see your husband ALOT according to you, think of the ppl who dont see their SO the entire process, and alot have waited far longer. Its one day at a time, each day is a day closer to an approval.

Just giving some advice

Not to seem "mean" or "hostile" to you

but the USCIS is not updating their site

as for their projections on their 2009 plan, they are stating they are handling the I-129F right now at 7.2 months

Putting her and me Over due and many more from us!

And all do I am happy for all the ones that got their approval

It is plain not fair to those who filled in Feb, March, April, May to be post-approved of the June, July, especially August

I am just saying what most people are thinking

and same goes for the process of California against Vermont!

The no need to add that little line huh

again, they can update or not update their site a million times over, they recieve ALOT of petitions last year, we are talking tens of thousands, theres not even a third of those on VJ, my point again is, there were times when even i waited and the site wasnt updated for 2 months...it will come, everyday that passes is another day closer to the approval

from processing site:

"The table shown below is intended to be a tool for customers to view our processing times. When applications and petitions are completed within our target timeframes, those timeframes will be shown (example: 3 months). If we are not meeting our target timeframes a date will be shown (example: April 16, 2008)." as it is....showing FEB 26,2008

If you look, they are still processing petitions for FEB 2008....which means they had a sufficiant amount of petitions in Jan, Feb and March, and are just NOW getting to March, April and May, and havent been able to update the site. Because there is a specific date shown, Feb 26, 2008...means they are really super backed up and behind on the petitions. It happens, your petitions are prolly even on an adjudicators desk, but hasnt been opened yet.

What i mean is written on this page

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00045f3d6a1RCRD

[Sinergy 3]

Ok, and im not being "mean" but have you not concidered the fact that VJ ppl are NOT the only ones who have filed k3's in the USA. Yours is just one in tens of thousands of petitions, just bc some VJ ppl are being approved before you, doesnt mean in a sence than your next, you could have a few thousand ahead of you.

Theres no real reason to be upset with your congressman, if your within the timeline, there isnt really much they can do anyway and looking at your timeline your not at 6 months, so your congressman isnt going to jump on it full force as of yet. Its natural to be anxious and annoyed by this process, however your turn will come, your approval will come, it just takes time. You get to see your husband ALOT according to you, think of the ppl who dont see their SO the entire process, and alot have waited far longer. Its one day at a time, each day is a day closer to an approval.

Just giving some advice

Not to seem "mean" or "hostile" to you

but the USCIS is not updating their site

as for their projections on their 2009 plan, they are stating they are handling the I-129F right now at 7.2 months

Putting her and me Over due and many more from us!

And all do I am happy for all the ones that got their approval

It is plain not fair to those who filled in Feb, March, April, May to be post-approved of the June, July, especially August

I am just saying what most people are thinking

and same goes for the process of California against Vermont!

The no need to add that little line huh

again, they can update or not update their site a million times over, they recieve ALOT of petitions last year, we are talking tens of thousands, theres not even a third of those on VJ, my point again is, there were times when even i waited and the site wasnt updated for 2 months...it will come, everyday that passes is another day closer to the approval

from processing site:

"The table shown below is intended to be a tool for customers to view our processing times. When applications and petitions are completed within our target timeframes, those timeframes will be shown (example: 3 months). If we are not meeting our target timeframes a date will be shown (example: April 16, 2008)." as it is....showing FEB 26,2008

If you look, they are still processing petitions for FEB 2008....which means they had a sufficiant amount of petitions in Jan, Feb and March, and are just NOW getting to March, April and May, and havent been able to update the site. Because there is a specific date shown, Feb 26, 2008...means they are really super backed up and behind on the petitions. It happens, your petitions are prolly even on an adjudicators desk, but hasnt been opened yet.

What i mean is written on this page

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00045f3d6a1RCRD

Good for you

however, what i outlined in red is common and happens way too often. and infact they ARE very backed up.

Narina - i dont mean to rain on your parade, but the lady you spoke to yesterday may have been an intern, especially giving me that idea by the way she talked to you.

Also, I understand your trying to get your petition approved, but they can not outright tell you " i will get it approved IMMEDIATELY". they can call, and get info, and they can push it, but they can not and do not promise to get anything approved.

Can i ask you....did you already fill out the security form giving them permission to check up on your case and take action?