War Deserters told to leave Canada..

[desert_fox 32]

What happened to all those folks that went to Canada to dodge the Viet Nam draft

They are all still there.. and happy and healthy and enjoying a very quiet living. Canada has no issues with Vietnam draft dodgers.. and rightly so in this particular case!

But were they allowed to return to the USA without any persecution??

they were given a general amnesty after the VN ended.

SUPPORT OUR BOYS IN CANADA.

[trailmix 77]

And this: You dont know much about the military then....you make the other guy die for his country and you protect your buddies.

Not sure what you mean here?

He's paraphrasing General George S. Patton, which said something similar to the men he was commanding. It was a very inspirational speech for the time.

I actually wanted to know what he was getting at.

And flames, I for one appreciate your restraint

[desert_fox 32]

And this: You dont know much about the military then....you make the other guy die for his country and you protect your buddies.

Not sure what you mean here?

He's paraphrasing General George S. Patton, which said something similar to the men he was commanding. It was a very inspirational speech for the time.

I actually wanted to know what he was getting at.

And flames, I for one appreciate your restraint

According to Gen Geoge Patton...the idea was not to die for your country, but to make the other SOB die for his country.

[trailmix 77]

And this: You dont know much about the military then....you make the other guy die for his country and you protect your buddies.

Not sure what you mean here?

He's paraphrasing General George S. Patton, which said something similar to the men he was commanding. It was a very inspirational speech for the time.

I actually wanted to know what he was getting at.

And flames, I for one appreciate your restraint

According to Gen Geoge Patton...the idea was not to die for your country, but to make the other SOB die for his country.

Yes, I understood what you said, I guess I wasn't being very clear - I wasn't wondering what you said, I was wondering why you said it.

[desert_fox 32]

And this: You dont know much about the military then....you make the other guy die for his country and you protect your buddies.

Not sure what you mean here?

He's paraphrasing General George S. Patton, which said something similar to the men he was commanding. It was a very inspirational speech for the time.

I actually wanted to know what he was getting at.

And flames, I for one appreciate your restraint

According to Gen Geoge Patton...the idea was not to die for your country, but to make the other SOB die for his country.

Yes, I understood what you said, I guess I wasn't being very clear - I wasn't wondering what you said, I was wondering why you said it.

that is what the military is about....to kill people and break things...

what part dont you understand?

[Sprailenes 47]

Well... in Canada they just need you to have a good slap shot to join the army.... oh and you have to provide your own skates.

[Flames9_RN 358]

Well... in Canada they just need you to have a good slap shot to join the army.... oh and you have to provide your own skates.

Not sure on how to take that comment. I'm sure those brave soldiers that past away in Afghanistan had a lot more than a good slap shot!! They gave the Ultimate sacrifice and are missed by many!! Many of these soldiers sacrifice time away from their loved ones, and ask very little in return.

[Sprailenes 47]

Oh get over it, it was a joke.

[Flames9_RN 358]

Well sorry, I have lost friends and it isn't a joke to me!! And won't sit on the sideline and take it as a joke.

[trailmix 77]

that is what the military is about....to kill people and break things...

what part dont you understand?

nm, it's all good.

Why is this thread deteriorating?

[Sprailenes 47]

Well sorry, I have lost friends and it isn't a joke to me!! And won't sit on the sideline and take it as a joke.

You know flames, I am not an insensitive person. I have a cousin who is over there, I know people who are over there. Yea we lose people, but at the same time, I don't let it bring me down. We are able to laugh at ourselves. Its the best medicine and therapy.

Don't take what I say so seriously.

Edited January 14, 2009 by Sprailenes

[DeadPoolX 9]

Funny how some enjoy freedom, but not willing to sacrifice for it. As it stands now, women can't be drafted.

I tend to think of that as sexist. I really do.

Women have fought for the right to be considered equal in all aspects of life, including the military, and yet... women aren't forced to sign up for the draft. We don't have a draft, obviously, but the point remains that if it was reinstated, women would not be considered as possible draftees.

Women weren't originally considered because of gender-based thinking at the time. It was assumed that men would be better at warfare while the women stayed home. Today, it's a little different and in most areas of life, a woman can do whatever a man can.

Because of this, I fail to see how women can demand equal rights without signing up for the draft, just like men. You can't be fully equal unless you take both the good and the bad.

Well, as I understand it, sexual inequality is rampant in the US military. Typically, women who do serve are typically in support roles and not in active combat. Despite the fact that some women desire these positions. Military logic is just strange sometimes.

As far as I know, women are allowed to take on air combat roles. In other words, they can be pilots (or naval aviators) and go into combat that way. Honestly, I think that's a hell of a lot better than being a soldier on the ground. If you're a pilot, not only are you a commissioned officer, but you can actually get a shower and a decent bed to sleep in after the mission.

[Flames9_RN 358]

Funny how some enjoy freedom, but not willing to sacrifice for it. As it stands now, women can't be drafted.

I tend to think of that as sexist. I really do.

Women have fought for the right to be considered equal in all aspects of life, including the military, and yet... women aren't forced to sign up for the draft. We don't have a draft, obviously, but the point remains that if it was reinstated, women would not be considered as possible draftees.

Women weren't originally considered because of gender-based thinking at the time. It was assumed that men would be better at warfare while the women stayed home. Today, it's a little different and in most areas of life, a woman can do whatever a man can.

Because of this, I fail to see how women can demand equal rights without signing up for the draft, just like men. You can't be fully equal unless you take both the good and the bad.

Well, as I understand it, sexual inequality is rampant in the US military. Typically, women who do serve are typically in support roles and not in active combat. Despite the fact that some women desire these positions. Military logic is just strange sometimes.

As far as I know, women are allowed to take on air combat roles. In other words, they can be pilots (or naval aviators) and go into combat that way. Honestly, I think that's a hell of a lot better than being a soldier on the ground. If you're a pilot, not only are you a commissioned officer, but you can actually get a shower and a decent bed to sleep in after the mission.

Aircrew is the way to go!! i was aircrew on the Cp 140 Aurora (P3C) Worked the electronics on the plane. Air Force treats their personnel soo much better. I did the Infantry for 3 years, navy for 9, Air Force wins hands down,lol

[Ban Hammer 13,333]

that is what the military is about....to kill people and break things...

what part dont you understand?

nm, it's all good.

Why is this thread deteriorating?

it's all them usc's in the thread that caused it.

[thetreble 19]

mother effer!

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090121/...1_war_resisters