Weather & Road Report

[SonoranSongbird 3]

Here is what the weather is like where I live today:

Issued by The National Weather Service

St. Louis, MO

9:51 am CDT, Fri., Jun. 19, 2009

... HEAT ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 7 PM CDT THIS EVENING...

A HEAT ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 7 PM CDT THIS EVENING.

HOT AND HUMID CONDITIONS WILL PERSIST THROUGH EARLY THIS EVENING ACROSS SOUTHEAST MISSOURI AND SOUTHWEST ILLINOIS. HIGHS IN THE MID 90S COMBINED WITH VERY HUMID AIR WILL PRODUCE AFTERNOON HEAT INDEX VALUES AROUND 105 DEGREES.

It was already hot when I walked my dog at 7 this morning. I think it is literally hotter than Hell. Well, at least I'm fairly certain it's hotter than Hell, Michigan, or Hell, Norway. Not quite sure about that other, more famous one.

[Krikit 1,163]

That's funny that you got a heat advisory. We're like that every day and it's not even summer yet! Here, I laugh when they report a cold advisory. OMG.... It's getting down to 54 degrees! Quick! We'll build a fire and huddle together to stay warm! Somebody.... Pass me that toque.

[trailmix 77]

That's funny that you got a heat advisory. We're like that every day and it's not even summer yet! Here, I laugh when they report a cold advisory. OMG.... It's getting down to 54 degrees! Quick! We'll build a fire and huddle together to stay warm! Somebody.... Pass me that toque.

So what's up for this afternoon krikit, any sign of rain there?

[RYCK 0]

No rain in northeast Florida ... high 90's and projected to be 100 for saturday and sunday .. HOT HOT HOT

[Krikit 1,163]

So what's up for this afternoon krikit, any sign of rain there?

No rain here yet. It's been overcast all day, though.

[trailmix 77]

So what's up for this afternoon krikit, any sign of rain there?

No rain here yet. It's been overcast all day, though.

Overcast is good! No clouds here.

[Krikit 1,163]

It's beautiful and sunny here right now, but we are forcast for severe storms and a high of 97 later on. It's 90 right now so I think we might get past that. I guess I should go do my running around, now, before the afternoon storms.

[toronto nonie 0]

We are finally going to have a stretch of gorgeous summer weather in Toronto - hot and humid (although could do without the humidity, but then again that would not be toronto ). Also, our garbage workers went on strike this morning...perfect timing since it's going to reach highs of 30 degrees this week...lol

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Yeah, same here - no heat advisory and temperatures in the 90s all last week and all this week. Last Friday it got up to 99 degrees and they did issue a humidex warning of 110 but normally they don't bother. We've got a threat of afternoon thunderstorms - we really could use the rain - and temps in the low 90s for today. It is 88 right now with a humidex of 94 so yeah, I should get my running around done too.

Edited June 22, 2009 by Kathryn41

[SonoranSongbird 3]

That's funny that you got a heat advisory. We're like that every day and it's not even summer yet! Here, I laugh when they report a cold advisory. OMG.... It's getting down to 54 degrees! Quick! We'll build a fire and huddle together to stay warm! Somebody.... Pass me that toque.

Well here they issue a heat advisory if the heat index is 105 or above and a warning if it is 110 or higher. Unless the part of Florida you live in is much more humid than where my grandparents lived on the coast, it is surprising that it has to get even worse than that for them to issue any kind of advisory. It is always hot and humid there, to be sure, but I don't really remember it being quite as bad as it gets here. Right now we are getting highs in the 95 to 98 range---which, with the humidity hovering just below 100%, means heat indices in the 105 to 110 range---but in July and August we can get temperatures of 105 with heat indeces of about 118.

I suppose it makes sense that it would be hotter inland, though. I used to live in Arizona, and in the summer it was usually between 105 and 110, although the humidity is so low that the heat index is lower than the temperature, but still probably above 105 a lot of days, and I don't recall there ever being a warning or advisory. In Seattle, on the other hand, they issued a heat advisory when we flew out for my Dad's 70th birthday. The predicted high was 88, and the humidity was low enough to make the heat index actually only 86.

In any case, regardless of how it compares to the heat where anyone else lives (yeah, yeah, I know, some people live in tropical rainforests below sea level on the flippin Equator), it's pretty miserable right now. One of the Cardinals' pitchers collapsed on the mound a few nights ago due to heat-induced dehydration a few nights ago.

[SonoranSongbird 3]

Heh. Out of pure curiosity, I looked up the Orlando forecast. About comparable to ours in terms of both heat and humidity (high of 96 with heat index of 105; here it is high of 97 with heat index of 108, but more or less the same), but you only have a heat advisory and we now have a warning. I guess people here are just too dumb to take appropriate precautions without a more stern warning?

I wish it would storm.

[Krikit 1,163]

Yeah, I definitely find other States much worse for heat than Florida.

[trailmix 77]

Yeah, I definitely find other States much worse for heat than Florida.

it's hot here.

[Krikit 1,163]

Yeah, I definitely find other States much worse for heat than Florida.

it's hot here.

Yep. It's definitely hot here.

[SonoranSongbird 3]

Yeah, I definitely find other States much worse for heat than Florida.

it's hot here.

Yep. It's definitely hot here.

Yes, if it's a weather-related pissing contest, you win hands down, because it's hot almost all the time in Florida. But I'm pretty sure it is not so extreme that it makes sense to consider a heat advisory for a heat index of 105 to be the equivalent of a frost advisory at 54.

In St Louis, we get at least one heat wave where the temperature is between 100 and 105 degrees with a heat index of 110 to 120 for a week or two almost every summer, and it has been as high as 111 not counting the humidity (thankfully not when I lived here). I've actually spent a lot of time in Florida because my grandparents lived there for the last 30 years of their lives. It was always hot and miserable, but I never experienced a triple-digit day there.

Now it's quite possible that I just lucked out in avoiding that level of extreme heat, and it's actually pretty likely it is worse inland than in Ft Lauderdale because of the moderating effect of the ocean (I did not spend much time inland). It would just surprise me to find out that you regularly get anything significantly more extreme than the 118 degree heat indices we get almost every summer. (Do you? Really?)

In any case, it looks like Orlando uses the same cutoff points as St Louis for issuing heat advisories. Orlando is right now under a heat advisory with a temperature of 97, humidity of 37% (probably quite low for you), and heat index of 101. St Louis is under a heat warning with a temperature of 95 degrees, humidity at 55% (that is very low for us, too), and a heat index of 108. Here they usually issue an advisory if it will be above 105 and a warning if it will be at least 110. It's 108, but the forecast was the heat index downtown could reach 110.

Sorry to beat a dead horse over the head, but FFS the humidity has been so high that the door knob is actually WET in the mornings, it's too hot to walk the dog after 7 am, and I know that they issue heat advisories because every summer there are people here who die from this. As I mentioned, one of the Cardinals collapsed with muscle cramps because of the heat a few nights ago, and a few other of our players had difficulty with it too. So I take some exception to the implication that calling this hot is like calling 54F cold.