This Looks Like the Start of a Second Great Depression

[mawilson 2,133]

This also from Wiki:

Meritocracy is a central political concept in Singapore and a fundamental principle in the education system[citation needed] which aims to identify and groom bright young students for positions of leadership. The system places a great emphasis on academic performance in grading students and granting their admission to special programmes and universities, though this has raised concerns of breeding elitism.[9] Academic grades are considered as objective measures of the students' ability and effort, irrespective of their social background.[10] Having good academic credentials is seen as the most important factor for the students' career prospects in the local job market, and their future economic status.[11]

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Then you don't wanna be in the controlling group very bad

Most people (or should I say "sheeple" ) are mediocre and happy in their mediocrity -

boring lives, average kids, quiet homes.

Even America has largely forsaken a striving for excellence, which is why we're told

that "one man is as good as another" or "all lives are worth the same".

This is why they are so happy to see a successful person fail or a billionaire commit

suicide - they strive to be mindless robots and want everyone to be the same as them.

Of course, because one's success in life can only be measure quantitatively.

[mawilson 2,133]

Can you name a couple of examples of "governmental efficiency"?

Health Care. No government spends or auses the medical providers to spend as much on bureaucrats, overhead and paperwork in this arena as the US private insurance industry.

That's an example of waste and inefficiency in the private sector, not of governmental efficiency.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I think those companies are very efficient at securing and maintaining their profits.

Whether or not an agency is efficient depends somewhat on what it is trying to do.

Edited January 7, 2009 by Paul Daniels

[mawilson 2,133]

Then you don't wanna be in the controlling group very bad

Most people (or should I say "sheeple" ) are mediocre and happy in their mediocrity -

boring lives, average kids, quiet homes.

Even America has largely forsaken a striving for excellence, which is why we're told

that "one man is as good as another" or "all lives are worth the same".

This is why they are so happy to see a successful person fail or a billionaire commit

suicide - they strive to be mindless robots and want everyone to be the same as them.

Of course, because one's success in life can only be measure quantitatively.

Any measure is quantitative by definition. The word "quantitative" means "capable of being measured".

What are you saying?

Edited January 7, 2009 by mawilson

[LaL 418]

[mawilson 2,133]

Is that your boyfriend, LaL?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Then you don't wanna be in the controlling group very bad

Most people (or should I say "sheeple" ) are mediocre and happy in their mediocrity -

boring lives, average kids, quiet homes.

Even America has largely forsaken a striving for excellence, which is why we're told

that "one man is as good as another" or "all lives are worth the same".

This is why they are so happy to see a successful person fail or a billionaire commit

suicide - they strive to be mindless robots and want everyone to be the same as them.

Of course, because one's success in life can only be measure quantitatively.

Any measure is quantitative by definition. The word "quantitative" means "capable of being measured".

What are you saying?

Can you come up with a mathematical formula for measuring love? The word 'measure' is metaphorical. There are many things in life, a healthy marriage, a stroll under a moonlit sky that cannot be measured literally. You're the one who is arguing that success can be measured in a concrete logical way.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Can you name a couple of examples of "governmental efficiency"?

Health Care. No government spends or causes the medical providers to spend as much on bureaucrats, overhead and paperwork in this arena as the US private insurance industry.

That's an example of waste and inefficiency in the private sector, not of governmental efficiency.

Everything is relative and relative to private enterprise, government is more efficient in this sector. Which is to say that contrary to your belief, private enterprise isn't any more immune from perpetual inefficiency than government.

[mawilson 2,133]

Can you come up with a mathematical formula for measuring love? The word 'measure' is metaphorical. There are many things in life, a healthy marriage, a stroll under a moonlit sky that cannot be measured literally. You're the one who is arguing that success can be measured in a concrete logical way.

Love is orthogonal to success. You can be in love and be successful (or be a loser) at the same time.

I think most people would agree that there's more to success than a moonlit walk or marriage,

otherwise "married" would be synonymous with "successful".

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Doesn't it depend on what your goals are in life? Some people want high paying jobs, others are happy being parents, then you have people who are happy to live comfortably without wanting to become multi millionaires. Who is to say what is right..?

[Amby 490]

Can you come up with a mathematical formula for measuring love? The word 'measure' is metaphorical. There are many things in life, a healthy marriage, a stroll under a moonlit sky that cannot be measured literally. You're the one who is arguing that success can be measured in a concrete logical way.

Love is orthogonal to success. You can be in love and be successful (or be a loser) at the same time.

I think most people would agree that there's more to success than a moonlit walk or marriage,

otherwise "married" would be synonymous with "successful".

####### are you talking about? I always feel like a massive success after a moonlit walk and a new marriage.

[mawilson 2,133]

Doesn't it depend on what your goals are in life? Some people want high paying jobs, others are happy being parents, then you have people who are happy to live comfortably without wanting to become multi millionaires. Who is to say what is right..?

So you don't see the difference between mediocrity and success - it's all the same to you?

[Amby 490]

Bill Gates = Joe the Plumber

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Doesn't it depend on what your goals are in life? Some people want high paying jobs, others are happy being parents, then you have people who are happy to live comfortably without wanting to become multi millionaires. Who is to say what is right..

So you don't see the difference between mediocrity and success - it's all the same to you?

Success is accomplishing a goal is what I think he's saying. I would agree. As people have different goals, success comes in many shapes and forms. And it isn't always green.